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#76
#76
huskyvol said:
Doesn't matter what excuse Slive gives for not handing down some punishment! He's still a d-bag!
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I didn't say it was a GOOD excuse, just that it is the only way both parties can get out of this without causing any real harm to FL's National Championship dreams or without making Mikey Slive into an even bigger national joke than he already is.
 
#77
#77
An apology <> immediate "fines AND suspension"

OrangeTsar said:
I believe the reason that Slive has not (at least officially) made a statement on Meyer is that there are ongoing negotiations between Slive and Meyer through Foley to give Slive a graceful way out of his dilemma. It's all about giving Meyer time to come out with a public apology for his words yesterday. "I spoke out of emotion and regret any insinuation of poor officiating my words may have conveyed" sort of thing. That way, Slive can then come out and say that since Meyer apologized "of his on free will" before the SEC issued a ruling, Meyer will not be subject to disciplinary action at this time.

Mark it down...you heard it here first. Look for it all to unfold before lunch tomorrow.
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#79
#79
OrangeTsar said:
I didn't say it was a GOOD excuse, just that it is the only way both parties can get out of this without causing any real harm to FL's National Championship dreams or without making Mikey Slive into an even bigger national joke than he already is.
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I know. I agree with what you said. In all honesty Slive may be beyond the point of no return. He is making his bed, and he will have to lay in it later when another coach challenges his judgement!
 
#81
#81
How the hell did Slive get this position? He is about as competent as that fool at 1600 Pennslyvania Ave. What is gonna do when CLK takes this team to the top and claims the SEC for its own kingdom? SCREW THE GATORS and all things Florida.
 
#82
#82
Let me be clear for all you gator trolls. I do not think that Meyer should have any punishment for what he said, and a week ago, this wouldn't have been an issue.

However, our grand poobah Slive decided to make a point about coaches publicly saying things about the officiating in the SEC and now he's stepped in it. If he doesn't "fine AND suspend" Meyer, then his new rule means nothing.

Regardless of what coaches said in public, he should have handled the reprimand and threats in private. But, he can't, he's got an ego and is full of pride and made a public stand. If he doesn't follow through, he not only makes himself look foolish, but the rest of the SEC.

If it was anyone besides Meyer, I'd be saying that same thing. If it was Kiffin and I was being HONEST with myself, I would be saying the same thing.
 
#83
#83
MystifyingVol said:
Let me be clear for all you gator trolls. I do not think that Meyer should have any punishment for what he said, and a week ago, this wouldn't have been an issue.

However, our grand poobah Slive decided to make a point about coaches publicly saying things about the officiating in the SEC and now he's stepped in it. If he doesn't "fine AND suspend" Meyer, then his new rule means nothing.

Regardless of what coaches said in public, he should have handled the reprimand and threats in private. But, he can't, he's got an ego and is full of pride and made a public stand. If he doesn't follow through, he not only makes himself look foolish, but the rest of the SEC.

If it was anyone besides Meyer, I'd be saying that same thing. If it was Kiffin and I was being HONEST with myself, I would be saying the same thing.
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+1
 
#84
#84
MystifyingVol said:
An apology <> immediate "fines AND suspension"
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There is a distinct difference in comments like:

"You run another play and you throw an interception or they throw another flag on us -- I wasn't going to let the refs lose the game for us there and some magical flag appear," Kiffen said.

"I'm sure we'll get one of those letters that really means nothing as Bobby got last week, but Florida and Alabama live on," he said Sunday.

Petrino: "When they hit you when you're on the white, it's supposed to be a late hit, a 15-yard penalty," Petrino said. "Unfortunately, in Florida, they don't call it that way."

Petrino was also upset about two penalties (a 15-yard personal foul and 10-yard pass interference call) on the Gators' final touchdown drive.

"It's unfortunate that the fourth quarter there's probably three plays that the officials made the difference in the game," Petrino said on his TV show.

Mullen: "I don't even know why we have replay right now in the Southeastern Conference if they're not going to utilize it," Mullen said.

"I hope he's severely punished if he ever works another SEC game again, because I think it's completely unacceptable," Mullen said.

And Meyer: “That should have been a penalty in my opinion," Meyer said. "Obviously it should have been. You have to protect quarterbacks. That’s the whole purpose. It’s right in front of the referee.”

Sure seems to me that Kiffen, Mullen and Petrino are specifically being critical and their comments are sarcastic at best. Meyer doesn't say, "the refs are trying to get my qb killed" or "the refs are clearly favoring UGA by not making that call." The whole tone is different. I don't know how anyone couldn't read the quotes above and see it the same way.
 
#85
#85
MystifyingVol said:
Let me be clear for all you gator trolls. I do not think that Meyer should have any punishment for what he said, and a week ago, this wouldn't have been an issue.

However, our grand poobah Slive decided to make a point about coaches publicly saying things about the officiating in the SEC and now he's stepped in it. If he doesn't "fine AND suspend" Meyer, then his new rule means nothing.

Regardless of what coaches said in public, he should have handled the reprimand and threats in private. But, he can't, he's got an ego and is full of pride and made a public stand. If he doesn't follow through, he not only makes himself look foolish, but the rest of the SEC.

If it was anyone besides Meyer, I'd be saying that same thing. If it was Kiffin and I was being HONEST with myself, I would be saying the same thing.
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Agreed
 
#86
#86
GatorSky said:
There is a distinct difference in comments like:

"You run another play and you throw an interception or they throw another flag on us -- I wasn't going to let the refs lose the game for us there and some magical flag appear," Kiffen said.

"I'm sure we'll get one of those letters that really means nothing as Bobby got last week, but Florida and Alabama live on," he said Sunday.

Petrino: "When they hit you when you're on the white, it's supposed to be a late hit, a 15-yard penalty," Petrino said. "Unfortunately, in Florida, they don't call it that way."

Petrino was also upset about two penalties (a 15-yard personal foul and 10-yard pass interference call) on the Gators' final touchdown drive.

"It's unfortunate that the fourth quarter there's probably three plays that the officials made the difference in the game," Petrino said on his TV show.

Mullen: "I don't even know why we have replay right now in the Southeastern Conference if they're not going to utilize it," Mullen said.

"I hope he's severely punished if he ever works another SEC game again, because I think it's completely unacceptable," Mullen said.

And Meyer: “That should have been a penalty in my opinion," Meyer said. "Obviously it should have been. You have to protect quarterbacks. That’s the whole purpose. It’s right in front of the referee.”

Sure seems to me that Kiffen, Mullen and Petrino are specifically being critical and their comments are sarcastic at best. Meyer doesn't say, "the refs are trying to get my qb killed" or "the refs are clearly favoring UGA by not making that call." The whole tone is different. I don't know how anyone couldn't read the quotes above and see it the same way.
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You're a Gator. I'm surprised you can see at all. Did your seeing eye dog write this. Evidently you don't understand the situation as a whole. CUM spoke out about the officiating and his ole buddy Slime let it slide. Regardless of what or how it was said CUM BROKE the rules and nothing was done by Slime. Take a long walk off a short pier please.
 
#87
#87
Face it everyone, this rule was meant for the other 10 teams in the conference minus Alabama and Florida. Slive would love for Kiffin to be the first coach suspended.
 
#88
#88
Oh Well! Good for Meyer! WooHoo! I dont care anymore about that pansy! We all know whats goin on here so lets just live with it!
 
#90
#90
huskyvol said:
Oh Well! Good for Meyer! WooHoo! I dont care anymore about that pansy! We all know whats goin on here so lets just live with it!
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You lay down and live with it. We prefer to rant and rave and try to figure out how to cover for CLK.
 
#91
#91
GatorSky said:
Sure seems to me that Kiffen, Mullen and Petrino are specifically being critical and their comments are sarcastic at best. Meyer doesn't say, "the refs are trying to get my qb killed" or "the refs are clearly favoring UGA by not making that call." The whole tone is different. I don't know how anyone couldn't read the quotes above and see it the same way.
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Here's the release from Slive laying out his policy:

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. (Oct. 30, 2009) – In a unanimous vote of the Southeastern Conference’s Athletic Directors and with the full support of the Conference’s twelve Presidents and Chancellors, all violations of SEC Bylaw 10.5.4 will be enforced by suspensions and fines, effective immediately.

The length of the suspension and the amount of the fine will be at the discretion of the Commissioner.

SEC Bylaw 10.5.4 requires that coaches, assistant coaches, players, support personnel and others associated with the institution’s athletics program refrain from public criticism of officials.

Head coaches are advised that suspensions and fines for violations of Bylaw 10.5.4 made by assistant coaches or other support personnel will be enforced against the head coach.

“There are proper channels available for head coaches to use when communicating officiating concerns to the Conference office,” said SEC Commissioner Mike Slive.

As is customary practice, the conference office will continue to address reviews of officiating calls on specific plays with each institution’s head coach and no public comments will be made concerning these communications.


Note the "all violations" phrase in the first paragraph and the phrase "refrain from public criticism of officials" in the third paragraph. It doesn't say nice criticism is okay or constructive criticism is acceptable. According to Slive's own words, all criticism will be penalized and now he's apparently ignoring the rule he previously created.
 
#94
#94
GatorSky said:
Sure seems to me that Kiffen, Mullen and Petrino are specifically being critical and their comments are sarcastic at best. Meyer doesn't say, "the refs are trying to get my qb killed" or "the refs are clearly favoring UGA by not making that call." The whole tone is different. I don't know how anyone couldn't read the quotes above and see it the same way.
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Well, yeah -- but that's not the issue. The issue is the supposed appearance of a double standard in the SEC. Slive issued an iron-clad, blanket ultimatum -- you publicly criticize the officials, you will be fined and/or suspended. Less than a week later, Meyer publicly criticized the officiating. It doesn't matter whether his tone is the same as the other coaches; if Slive doesn't punish him, as he explicitly said he would do, then he perpetuates this notion that a double standard exists. And then he's going to underline and boldface it in a week or two when the next guy complains about a call and DOES get suspended.

I can see why Slive is taking a hard line on this, because the one thing you cannot have is the integrity of the competition called into question. Slive has to shut all this up and make it go away. Which is why it would be so stunning if he ignored his own ultimatum with regard to Meyer. If you don't give Meyer a slap on the wrist of some kind, then you're just digging the hole deeper.
 
#95
#95
MystifyingVol said:
Yes, because turning a blind eye to hypocrisy is the best way to deal with it. :crazy:
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Im not turning a blind eye. Slive is slowly burying himself. Do you really think Kiffin cares what they did to Meyer? It just makes Kiffin look that much better!
 
#96
#96
MystifyingVol said:
Same here, I'm looking all over for it and can't find a link anywhere. Maybe just a trial balloon by the SEC office to see how it would go over?
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On the previous pages I saw several links posted. Ididn't go to them. Were they irrelevant?
 
#97
#97
hmhawk said:
You lay down and live with it. We prefer to rant and rave and try to figure out how to cover for CLK.
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Seems The Kiff can handle himself! Now if someone wants to pick at the players then I will rant and rave.
 
#99
#99
huskyvol said:
Seems The Kiff can handle himself! Now if someone wants to pick at the players then I will rant and rave.
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I agree. But as one who works in a mill where it is an unlevel playing field it just urks me to see it in real life. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Shut CUM up or Slime needs to shut up.
 
#100
#100
hmhawk said:
I agree. But as one who works in a mill where it is an unlevel playing field it just urks me to see it in real life. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Shut CUM up or Slime needs to shut up.
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I agree totally! I want to shut them up personally! I really believe this makes Kiffin the smarter coach here! Now Meyer has resorted to Kiffin's way of getting in the media. Kudos to CLK
 
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