i disagree. i think W just is trying to improve his poll numbers, nobody will convince me otherwise. frists original plan was good, out of all of them it was the best. after they altered it, the bill doesn't really mean anything except giving 20 million illegals amnesty. that is what W wanted all along anyway. bush led texas for how many years, he knew the problems and he is just now getting around to doing something about this. not a chance. the republicans can make up some ground with me if they shoot this bill down in congress though. i'll have to admit i'm back to almost split ticket again after this mess. i like alexander he has character, but frist is lacking. i still disagree about obama to, i 'll guarantee he is more qualified to be president than what W was. W never did anything except run texas into the ground and he was elected president off his dads name. obama probably doesn't have that many ties to big buisness either and he made himself unlike somebody we know. the only republican i would vote for is powell, he is a great man. he just killed himself when he went along with W, bad career move. :biggrin2: