Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg has passed away

[Orange_Crush]

"Moral" from the relative morality crowd, and "high" as a relative standard to personal character preferences. lol

Pointless indeed.

 

[luthervol]

Trump did not drag the Democrats down. You should really stop blaming him for things that aren't his fault. People make choices and act on them. They're responsible for their own actions. What Trump does is his fault. What Democrats do is their fault. He hasn't forced them to act in any way.

How's this?
If anyone did not see that Trump would inevitably cause the repubs to drag themselves down, cause the dems. to drag themselves down, cause the media to drag themselves down, cause each individual to drag themselves down, and cause the country as a whole to drag itself down.....then they are non-functioning.

 

[volinbham]

How's this?
If anyone did not see that Trump would inevitably cause the repubs to drag themselves down, cause the dems. to drag themselves down, cause the media to drag themselves down, cause each individual to drag themselves down, and cause the country as a whole to drag itself down.....then they are non-functioning.

no one has agency in your world

 

[luthervol]

A person of high character would never be nominated let alone elected.

Not true at all. Look no further than Carter.
Even it you take the cynical and nonsensical stance that high character precludes one from being POTUS, that in no way is an excuse for electing the person with the worst character.

 

[Orange_Crush]

no one has agency in your world

Well, Trump does.

 

[hog88]

How's this?
If anyone did not see that Trump would inevitably cause the repubs to drag themselves down, cause the dems. to drag themselves down, cause the media to drag themselves down, cause each individual to drag themselves down, and cause the country as a whole to drag itself down.....then they are non-functioning.

I guess its just impossible for a person/organization to maintain it's standards in the face of adversity.

 

[hog88]

Not true at all. Look no further than Carter.
Even it you take the cynical and nonsensical stance that high character precludes one from being POTUS, that in no way is an excuse for electing the person with the worst character.

Ok let's look at Carter. He was nominated and elected 44 years ago, things have changed.

In 2016 the lesser character candidate didn't win.

 

[Orange_Crush]

I guess its just impossible for a person/organization to maintain it's standards in the face of adversity.

Trump has faced much adversity, so can't be held responsible for what others have forced him to do. It's quite sad, actually.

 

[luthervol]

I can assure you that nobody of character comes out of the Mayor Daley Chicago political machine.

I can assure you that the people who come out of the Mayor Daley Chicago political machine do not all have equal character.
They are on a continuum, and the person with the best character is better than the person with the worst character.

 

[Wireless1]

I can assure you that the people who come out of the Mayor Daley Chicago political machine do not all have equal character.
They are on a continuum, and the person with the best character is better than the person with the worst character.

Hence the reason we always like to compare ourselves to each other rather than a perfect standard.

 

[luthervol]

Ok let's look at Carter. He was nominated and elected 44 years ago, things have changed.

In 2016 the lesser character candidate didn't win.

In 2016 the lesser character candidate beat out 16 with higher character and then beat out one with higher character.
The lesser character candidate most definitely did win.

 

[evillawyer]

The person in the corner hiding behind the drapes telling him to shhhh is Susan Collins.

 

[Sea Ray]

How's this?
If anyone did not see that Trump would inevitably cause the repubs to drag themselves down, cause the dems. to drag themselves down, cause the media to drag themselves down, cause each individual to drag themselves down, and cause the country as a whole to drag itself down.....then they are non-functioning.

No, non functioning folks blame Trump for everything...

 

[luthervol]

I guess its just impossible for a person/organization to maintain it's standards in the face of adversity.

It's impossible to elect and support a horrendously despicable human as POTUS without it adversely effecting persons/organizations.

 

[hog88]

In 2016 the lesser character candidate beat out 16 with higher character and then beat out one with higher character.
The lesser character candidate most definitely did win.

Luther you prove how incognizant you really are every day.

 

[hog88]

It's impossible to elect and support a horrendously despicable human as POTUS without it adversely effecting persons/organizations.

There is always the choice to take the high road.

 

[0nelilreb]

So she waited around for 35 years as this covert liberal operative waiting for just the right moment to claim that Kavanaugh sexually assaulted her all while receiving no financial benefit whatsoever and all while subjecting herself and her family to unrelenting scrutiny and ridicule from the Right? Sounds plausible.

So you agreed with my post . Cool

 

[InVOLuntary]

In 2016 the lesser character candidate beat out 16 with higher character and then beat out one with higher character.
The lesser character candidate most definitely did win.

Lutz. Having CLinton in the same sentence with the word character should be punishable by a trip to gitmo.

 

[AM64]

My post about Carter deserving to be on Mt. Rushmore was a joke, Luther. He should be on Mt. Vesuvius because he blows, just like Vesuvius did.

Sometimes you gotta go for the blue ink. Carter is one of those cases; there are a lot of people of all political and other persuasions still under the delusion that he was a good president and a good man. I question the man even setting aside the fact that he is a fool, but I'm absolutely certain he was a lousy president.

 

[TN Ribs]

In 2016 the lesser character candidate beat out 16 with higher character and then beat out one with higher character.
The lesser character candidate most definitely did win.

Trump has no character whatsoever - this is an undeniable fact. He is truly a despicable human being who has debased the Office for four years, to think otherwise is a fool's errand.

 

[AirVol]

So the Dims are talking about impeachment again for something that’s been done 29 times. Dims are far gone.

 

[AM64]

I hope you can once again find your way back to understanding the importance of character.
Old man cynicism is hard to shake.

Hate to inform you, luther. "Old man cynicism" is wisdom from having watched all that went on and then seeing younger generations "who know better" repeat or do worse. Watching cycle after cycle of kids who can vote but know nothing about life is pretty much like being forced to watch "Ground Hog Day" ... over and over again.

 

[evillawyer]

Looks like the Dems are winning the ideological argument.

 

[VolStrom]

Sometimes you gotta go for the blue ink. Carter is one of those cases; there are a lot of people of all political and other persuasions still under the delusion that he was a good president and a good man. I question the man even setting aside the fact that he is a fool, but I'm absolutely certain he was a lousy president.

Those must be people born after 1980. I actually voted for Carter and he was the last democrat I've voted for since. He was the worst president of my lifetime until Obama came along.

 

[golfballs]

Looks like the Dems are winning the ideological argument.

Curiously at odds with the exact same question asked last week. I call BS