Justified

#727
#727
Sucks that Jimmy died, he was the one guy that always had Boyds back. Also I hope Boyd shoots Ava and everyone else in the face. I'm really hoping Boyd goes crazy town and destroys Harlan.
 
#728
#728
I have to be honest, i thought the first half was great but it kind of slowed the second half of the episode. It set next year up nicely though. I just don't want it to end with them getting Boyd and Raylan riding off in the sunset. That would be too predictable. IMO
 
#729
#729
It will kind of end like that, but Raylan will get shot dead as he is opening up the door to see Wynona and his kid.
 
#730
#730
Spent Fuel said:
It will kind of end like that, but Raylan will get shot dead as he is opening up the door to see Wynona and his kid.
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Something like this. All these covers of Never Leave Harlan Alive just has too much foreshadowing. I wouldn't be shocked to see a hamlet ending for this show. All but a few minor characters bite the bullet.
 
#731
#731
Hopefully Boyd smells the betrayal all over Ava and puts her in the ground. Boyd and all his fury goes towards Raylan for putting Ava up to it. Boyd and Raylan duel it out and they both die. I believe they both greatly respect each other in a odd way, and them revealing that will be their last words. If they ride off in the sunset I want it to be because of respect Raylan tells Boyd what's really happening and they both get out of Dodge.
 
#732
#732
After watching that show I can't believe how epically bad of a season this has been. The directionless, scrambling around, and enemies joining up with enemies is such a reminder of Revolution. Yep, I just went there. The writers should be ashamed of what they did this season.

Them getting Ava out of jail the way they did, implying it was the Marshals that got her out when they knew nothing about the the framed stabbing. Pathetic writing. Raylan couldn't put her back in jail if he wanted to. I don't see her truly betraying Boyd like that either in this upcoming season. I could actually see Boyd going clean and somehow landing everything on the woman and Winn Duffy and walking off into the sunset with Ava while Raylan goes to Florida.

By the way I called Art surviving a while back.
 
#733
#733
Someone calm Coug down before he jumps.

A subpar season of Justified is still better than 95% of everything on tv. I really think the Cajun wanting off the show just threw everything out of wack, and sent the writers scrambling.
 
#734
#734
BadJerry20 said:
Someone calm Coug down before he jumps.

A subpar season of Justified is still better than 95% of everything on tv. I really think the Cajun wanting off the show just threw everything out of wack, and sent the writers scrambling.
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I'm not jumping but I'm not gonna say that was a great season.
 
#735
#735
BadJerry20 said:
Someone calm Coug down before he jumps.

A subpar season of Justified is still better than 95% of everything on tv. I really think the Cajun wanting off the show just threw everything out of wack, and sent the writers scrambling.
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Why did he want off the show?
 
#736
#736
coug said:
After watching that show I can't believe how epically bad of a season this has been. The directionless, scrambling around, and enemies joining up with enemies is such a reminder of Revolution. Yep, I just went there. The writers should be ashamed of what they did this season.

Them getting Ava out of jail the way they did, implying it was the Marshals that got her out when they knew nothing about the the framed stabbing. Pathetic writing. Raylan couldn't put her back in jail if he wanted to. I don't see her truly betraying Boyd like that either in this upcoming season. I could actually see Boyd going clean and somehow landing everything on the woman and Winn Duffy and walking off into the sunset with Ava while Raylan goes to Florida.

By the way I called Art surviving a while back.
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The "stabbing" of the prison guard would have been known by the Marshall's because that's what got Ava transported from jail to prison.
 
#737
#737
GahLee said:
The "stabbing" of the prison guard would have been known by the Marshall's because that's what got Ava transported from jail to prison.
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My argument is that the reason the lawyer said she got out of jail is in fact the truth. I don't see how Raylan can claim he's responsible for getting her out and can put her back in for not cooperating.
The end scene with Raylan and Ava on the bridge was just dumb. He has no leverage over her, unless I'm missing something.
 
#739
#739
coug said:
My argument is that the reason the lawyer said she got out of jail is in fact the truth. I don't see how Raylan can claim he's responsible for getting her out and can put her back in for not cooperating.
The end scene with Raylan and Ava on the bridge was just dumb. He has no leverage over her, unless I'm missing something.
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What I thought was that her county lockup cellmate did not come forward and the prison guard did not recant his statement about being stabbed. It was Ava's cover story for conveniently getting out of prison on a deal to turn snitch.
 
#740
#740
vader said:
What I thought was that her county lockup cellmate did not come forward and the prison guard did not recant his statement about being stabbed. It was Ava's cover story for conveniently getting out of prison on a deal to turn snitch.
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Which means Boyd will figure it out and she will either have to help him or get killed.
 
#742
#742
GahLee said:
Why did he want off the show?
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Not sure, someone mentioned a few pages back that he was supposed to be a main bad guy and asked to be written out of the show. If they had the season written with him playing a major role, and he asked out it would definitely screw with the story a lot.
 
#743
#743
vader said:
What I thought was that her county lockup cellmate did not come forward and the prison guard did not recant his statement about being stabbed. It was Ava's cover story for conveniently getting out of prison on a deal to turn snitch.
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That's the impression I first got. During Ava's whole incarceration though, it was pretty clear that Boyd was controlling the lawyer, as if he had hired him personally. If that is the case, would the lawyer really lie to Boyd about how Ava got out knowing what Boyd is capable of?
 
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#744
#744
BadJerry20 said:
Not sure, someone mentioned a few pages back that he was supposed to be a main bad guy and asked to be written out of the show. If they had the season written with him playing a major role, and he asked out it would definitely screw with the story a lot.
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That was me. The guy asked to be written out because he simply wasn't enjoying it. They also didn't tell him what his character would be doing by the end of the season so he most likely didn't understand how important his role was. From what I read, the actors only get the script of each episode before they film it and outside of the guys that play Raylan and Boyd they don't know how long they will be on the show.
 
#745
#745
ainge10heisman said:
That's the impression I first got. During Ava's whole incarceration though, it was pretty clear that Boyd was controlling the lawyer, as if he had hired him personally. If that is the case, would the lawyer really lie to Boyd about how Ava got out knowing what Boyd is capable of?
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That is an excellent point
 
#746
#746
vader said:
What I thought was that her county lockup cellmate did not come forward and the prison guard did not recant his statement about being stabbed. It was Ava's cover story for conveniently getting out of prison on a deal to turn snitch.
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I'm going with Occam's Razor on this one.

Why would you ever pick the truth to be the cover story, if that was their intent at all?

I think the writers realized that nobody cared about the Ava in jail story, in fact hated it and so they quickly decided to reverse it. I'm ok with that and how they did it but not the following Ava/Raylan scene.
In addition, I'm not sure the Marshal service could convince a judge to let a violent offender out of jail even if it was to help catch someone else.
 
#747
#747
Chick that stabbed a guard in a trade for a guy with a huge history of bad ****. Not a hard sale honestly. Cops will always negotiate with someone, to get the bigger fish.
 
#749
#749
coug said:
No
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Nobody, except maybe you obviously, really gives a chit. People who like this show aren't really into it because it's a 100% accurate portrayal of law enforcement and the justice system. The show has bad ass characters who deliver bad ass dialogue, and then they add in dumb ass characters who deliver hilariously dumb ass dialogue. Then, a little later on, they all shoot at each other. It's a character/dialogue driven show with some great action scenes thrown in throughout that just so happens to be set in a law enforcement environment.
 
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