Kamala Harris ‘ready’ to debate JD Vance

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WoodsmanVol said:
I may not like Trump, but whether it was his staff or his own choice, the JD Vance selection is BRILLIANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A Pall Mall with a brownie wife. She will surely be a plus for drawing female voters in general, and brownies in particular.
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And Repubs are the racist ones
 
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Godfatha said:
And Repubs are the racist ones
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Well, you know, Biden's VP is a Black woman with a White husband. Based on your post, that makes the racists one too, doesn't it?

Everybody is racist, whether they want to admit it or not. Except in very rare cases, such as when an ethnic are physically isolated from their culture, and geographical region; everybody is ethnocentric (AKA: racist). And it doesn't matter what their political affiliation may be. Unfortunately, too few hoomon beans know how or care to exhibit respect for folks outside their own ethnic origins. And right now, that's on full display both in this forum, and the current election year.

If you so desire, proceed to divert, dismiss, deny, and lie.
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
I know it won't be a debate question.

I'm surprised Trump picked him
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Maybe the other two turned him down. JD Vance fits Trump's agenda.


In regards, with Trump's fitness, He can perform the duties of POTUS if he as he has been in control of the Agenda. He is not a leader, it is all about his power and he will change the POTUS position to fit his needs.
If elected, I doubt he will step down from the POTUS.
Expect A lot of Chaos in the Nation the next 4 years. The only way he leads is through threats.
He has not fixed anything.
In Contrast, Biden can govern but he can not lead. Old and stroked out. Forgotten more than most. Not sure there will be a change but there needs to be one, after the convention. Problem is KH is not the answer.
 
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I have been a big fan of Vance ever since I read Hillbilly Elegy a long while back. It was written long before he entered politics and he basically explained why Trump resonated with so many Americans. Vance is an American success story. He literally worked his way out of poverty and did exactly everything we say a young man should do. He focused on his education; joined the Marines, went to college and then law school. Started his own businesses. And he has excelled at everything he has done. We conservatives like to say (rightfully) that hard work and character can help anyone improve their lives regardless of missing privileges or tough circumstances. With Vance, we have a person who hasn’t just said it; he has lived it.
If you haven’t read Hillbilly Elegy, you really should. And realize that unlike most books by modern politicians, he had no ghost writer. He was an unknown at the time so this is almost certainly 100 percent his own words.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
I have been a big fan of Vance ever since I read Hillbilly Elegy a long while back. It was written long before he entered politics and he basically explained why Trump resonated with so many Americans. Vance is an American success story. He literally worked his way out of poverty and did exactly everything we say a young man should do. He focused on his education; joined the Marines, went to college and then law school. Started his own businesses. And he has excelpat everything he has done. We conservatives like to say (rightfully) that hard work and character can help anyone improve their lives regardless of missing privileges or tough circumstances. With Vance, we have a person who hasn’t just said it; he has lived it.
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I can see why you like the choice.

Any idea why so many on the R (R-ish) side seem to not like him?
 
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McDad said:
I can see why you like the choice.

Any idea why so many on the R (R-ish) side seem to not like him?
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I Just think they don’t know him. Another thing that impresses me is that he is the first Veteran to appear on any ticket since John McCain.
For me, he is the first politician (except for Trump) who I knew about before they ran for any office. We say we want candidates who have lived a real life and had real jobs. Now we have one.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
I Just think they don’t know him. Another thing that impresses me is that he is the first Veteran to appear on any ticket since John McCain.
For me, he is the first politician (except for Trump) who I knew about before they ran for any office. We say we want candidates who have lived a real life and had real jobs. Now we have one.
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Forgive me for pressing, but he can't be without issue. No one else has been able or willing to explain their beef with JD. So if you can, since you know of him pretty well, what do you think are the issues which turn people off from him?
 
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All I'm wondering is whether there will be a live audience for the debate(s) between Vance and Kamala "Mouth Hugs" Harris. If not, the producers may be forced to wear out the laugh track button on the 'ol sound board.
 
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McDad said:
Forgive me for pressing, but he can't be without issue. No one else has been able or willing to explain their beef with JD. So if you can, since you know of him pretty well, what do you think are the issues which turn people off from him?
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I honestly have no answer that explains it. Maybe they are just disappointed that their own favorite didn’t get the nod.
They might feel that he is too young and has only held ANY office for a couple of years. Of course for me, lack of prior political activity is a bonus, not a liability.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Pence is probably one of the most trustworthy people in all of politics
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And was ridiculed mercilessly by the Left for exercising sensible rules to avoid false accusations of impropriety and for addressing his wife in the affectionate manner that millions of husbands/fathers have done for ages.
 
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McDad said:
Forgive me for pressing, but he can't be without issue. No one else has been able or willing to explain their beef with JD. So if you can, since you know of him pretty well, what do you think are the issues which turn people off from him?
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Thinking more about the possible jealousy angle; I am realizing just how important this pick was to determining Trump‘s eventual successor. The party is United behind Trump, so the VP pick was basically an exercise in King making. The person Trump picked was automatically going to gain the inside track for the 2028 nomination. In a very real Sense, this was a primary by proxy. The people backing other candidates for VP just lost a big battle.
 
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McDad said:
I can see why you like the choice.

Any idea why so many on the R (R-ish) side seem to not like him?
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I've been doing some reading up on him. Found this. He started a charity to help opiod victims, then immediately sold out to big pharma, and used the money to launch his political career.

apnews.com

Vance's anti-drug charity enlisted doctor echoing Big Pharma

When bestselling author JD Vance founded “Our Ohio Renewal” a day after the 2016 presidential election, he promoted the charity as a vehicle for helping solve the scourge of opioid addiction he’d lamented in his memoir, “Hillbilly Elegy.”
apnews.com apnews.com

www.salon.com

J.D. Vance has a Big Pharma problem

The U.S. Senate candidate, who founded an anti-opioid non-profit, has several close ties to Purdue Pharma
www.salon.com www.salon.com
 
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OrangeTsar said:
I honestly have no answer that explains it. Maybe they are just disappointed that their own favorite didn’t get the nod.
They might feel that he is too young and has only held ANY office for a couple of years. Of course for me, lack of prior political activity is a bonus, not a liability.
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obama was only a senator for two years in 2008... but unlike JDV he was a career activist/grifter
 
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Sgt_Nick_Fury said:
I got to say Vance gives me Pence vibes...I do not trust him. I hope I am wrong, but while I liked him the first time I heard him, he lost my trust quite awhile ago when he seemed to suck up to teh very worst RINOS of the Rpublican Party. I also feel like any VP should scare the other side enough to keep your main man safe..I dunno that he accomplishes that or could. I deffinately can see why Trump's enemies would find vance preferable. That's not a good situation.

I will say he'd mop the floor with Harris, but that's not much of an accolade. Anyone who can speak rationally and not laugh like a mule high on crack has her number.
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Pence has principles. Vance doesn't.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
He's going to fit right in

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And in his own words he also said that those views were wrong, they are no longer his views, and the reasoning for the change is that Trump proved him wrong.

That’s what happens to men in their 30s. They mature. The beliefs they once held often change. Reasonable people understand that. But hey, y’all keep trying that angle. It’s desperation time for the lefties.
 
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