Kavanaugh Confirmation

[1972 Grad]

As did I. (And i can't stand the guy.)

I can't stand him either.

 

[Orange_Crush]

My question to you, and others, was "does the end ever justify the means?"

You'll need to come to a common definition on what standard you're using for justification. Short of that, he'll be left to judging you for your own consistency.





(Which you've been demonstrably shown to fail.)

 

[luthervol]

NO ONE in politics can claim the high road.

They are in no way all equal. The same with policemen, coaches, doctors, lawyers, and plumbers.

 

[volinbham]

NO ONE in politics can claim the high road.

My next read


Parliament of Whores: A Lone Humorist Attempts to Explain the Entire U.S. Government

 

[luthervol]

You'll need to come to a common definition on what standard you're using for justification. Short of that, he'll be left to judging you for your own consistency.





(Which you've been demonstrably shown to fail.)

I would have bet $100 you wouldn't answer. The question was actually intended more for you to begin with.

 

[Orange_Crush]

I would have bet $100 you wouldn't answer. The question was actually intended more for you to begin with.

Imagine that. You were wrong again. I can't imagine anyone is rushing to mark the date.

 

[1972 Grad]

Innuendo and debasement? Good grief, it doesn't actually say that she or they did anything. It very well could be a juvenile reference, but my yearbook is filled with worse and I was pretty boring.

Mine doesn't have a word in it. I got my Senior annual near the end of the school year, and had people write stupid stuff write in it , just like everybody did. I had it in my locker on the last day, and somebody stole it. I was able to get another soon afterward, but by that time, it was too late to get anybody to sign it. My yearbook is out there somewhere. Maybe some day it will be sold at a yard sale, and somebody will buy it, and bring it to me.

 

[Weezer]

They are in no way all equal. The same with policemen, coaches, doctors, lawyers, and plumbers.

In this case, the Dems are much worse.

 

[luthervol]

Imagine that. You were wrong again. I can't imagine anyone is rushing to mark the date.

lol.....I would have won the bet. You didn't answer the question.
I'll ask again.
Do you believe the end ever justifies the means?

 

[bamawriter]

Mine doesn't have a word in it. I got my Senior annual near the end of the school year, and had people write stupid stuff write in it , just like everybody did. I had it in my locker on the last day, and somebody stole it. I was able to get another soon afterward, but by that time, it was too late to get anybody to sign it. My yearbook is out there somewhere. Maybe some day it will be sold at a yard sale, and somebody will buy it, and bring it to me.

A girl in my class went by her initials: B.J. Sweet girl. In no way promiscuous, not a partier, never in trouble. Her yearbook is a dumpster fire.

 

[luthervol]

In this case, the Dems are much worse.

At least you conceded that they are not equal. That's a starting point.

 

[evillawyer]

You need to let the Renate thing go too. Even she has denied any of it was sexually related and there is no other offered explanation, just a bunch of wild ass speculation.


But that’s the play. Keep on the steam with the wild ass speculation and smear and try to sell it to people.

Renate denied having sex, but she said she was hurt by what was said. Now if "Renate Alumnus" just meant "friend of Renate," as Kavanaugh said under oath, why would Renate be hurt by that?

 

[Weezer]

At least you conceded that they are not equal. That's a starting point.

If you actually paid attention rather than pursuing your partisan agenda you would see there's numerous times I've said the Republicans were wrong. You never seem able to do the same with the Dems. Like in this case, you know the Dems are wrong but cling to the belief it's "justified".

 

[Orange_Crush]

lol.....I would have won the bet. You didn't answer the question.
I'll ask again.
Do you believe the end ever justifies the means?

I answered in the only way possible to a relativist. If you'd like to debate our way to a shared standard, I'm happy to do so. But it is impossible to debate justification when you claim the standard is opinion and i claim it is the Objective will and word of God.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Renate denied having sex, but she said she was hurt by what was said. Now if "Renate Alumnus" just meant "friend of Renate," as Kavanaugh said under oath, why would Renate be hurt by that?

Oh FFS let it go. She was TOLD how people LIKE YOU were interpreting it that’s why. She said that!

 

[evillawyer]

I think there's some conflation of issues here. The issue is not that he said unbecoming stuff in his yearbook, but that he's obviously lying about it NOW under OATH for an appointment to the SCOTUS. It's a strawman to argue that people are saying Kavanaugh should not be confirmed based on the content of the things he said in his yearbook.

 

[85SugarVol]

And an actual guilty plea from Larry Craig. Hard to get around that either.

I don’t know anything about Larry Craig

 

[luthervol]

I answered in the only way possible to a relativist. If you'd like to debate our way to a shared standard, I'm happy to do so. But it is impossible to debate justification when you claim the standard is opinion and i claim it is the Objective will and word of God.

For the sake of argument, let's go with the Objective will and word of God. Does the end ever justify the means?

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Of course not. Not in the least. That would be a horrible precedent.

Then you should be absolutely embarrassed and ashamed by how your party has handled this. This is a historically low showing of depravity by liberals.

 

[1972 Grad]

He was playing footsie with a cop in a stall because he wanted sex... He wasn't forced to resign by his Republican colleagues. That was ridiculous. And what about Mark Foley, the Republican pedophile who was preying on teenage boys while in the House? I think he was from the 16th District in Florida in October of 2006? It's been a while but I think that's right. That was a winner.

It's a good thing Obama wasn't in the next stall, or it would have been on like Donkey Kong.

 

[Orange_Crush]

For the sake of argument, let's go with the Objective will and word of God. Does the end ever justify the means?

For precision, i will say that evil, immoral, means are never justified by their outcomes. This should be understood by definition, if the means have to be justified by anything but themselves, but i will be explicit.

 

[luthervol]

Then you should be absolutely embarrassed and ashamed by how your party has handled this. This is a historically low showing of depravity by liberals.

I don't see the connection. It's as ridiculous to say he is guilty as it is to say he is innocent.

 

[bamawriter]

I think there's some conflation of issues here. The issue is not that he said unbecoming stuff in his yearbook, but that he's obviously lying about it NOW under OATH for an appointment to the SCOTUS. It's a strawman to argue that people are saying Kavanaugh should not be confirmed based on the content of the things he said in his yearbook.

How can you be sure he's lying? He may be. But given the very nature of the issue, it's hardly "obvious."

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

I don't see the connection. It's as ridiculous to say he is guilty as it is to say he is innocent.

Wrong. He is innocent.

 

[luthervol]

Wrong. He is innocent.

lol......