Kelly's 6 years at Oregon

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They still had talent which is what we don't and have not had for a number of years. Time to learn something about football.

LOL

Worley was ranked what in recruiting? Ranked higher than Coner Shaw by the way! And some say the BEST OL in the nation 4 NFL players on the OL! And a 4-Star Running Back ranked 11th best running back in the nation. Two 4 Star WR's

And the coach can only turn that into 7 points?

Give Steve Spurrier our QB ranked higher than his..our NFL OL better that his.. our 4 star RB and our two 4 star WRs ...He scores more than 7!


Naw we have no talent...and you know football...LOL


Why do u say we have no talent on Offense? You base that on what?
 
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To the best of my knowledge Kelly had out in 6 years with the Ducks before moving to the other birds in the NFL as either OC or HC. Simply put, does it take CBJ as long to rebuild UT or will our past success put us on the fast track for future success?


how do we measure success? yes he won games but against who? USC? stanford? come on teams in the PAC10/12 can't measure how good they are until they play against good teams each week....to prove this, who did they lose too in the NC game? LSU...if Oregon played a schedule like ours and still won I will give them more credit...just like NorteDame, who do they play during the season? they make to the NC game and get destroyed, just like in the 2007 Orange bowl...


just my opinion though, its all in who you play...
 
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The PAC 12 is the second best conference in the country, and I guarantee that the top half of the PAC 12 could compete fairly well with the top half of the SEC.

Oregon, Stanford, UCLA, Arizona State, and Washington are all legit teams.

Behind who???? :)
 
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U might be right and u sound pretty level headed, but as a long loving support of the vols (and many of us r) we don't like seeing our once proud and storied football team get its teeth kicked in. Weren't use to this crap and nor should we. This might not be a popular what i am about to say, but i think we should have gone the coach Snyder way bought out the Oregon game and put a softie on the schedule. Its better to get exposed in your on conference than out of conference on national T.V. ! That **** was horrible.

When you are not good, you need to get your teeth kicked in every now and then. Then your kids understand they they have to go to work, listen to their coaches, stick with the program and keep their heads down. It takes years of constant effort to build and get better. That's what lots of football fans seem to be missing. Even former players sometimes miss this point. You have to have been part of an effort to drag a losing program out of the basement and into competitiveness to really know what is required, and this happens so seldom that most people have no sense of the effort, consistency and dedication required.
 
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Austin Peay, W. Kentucky and South Alabama are about all the cupcakes we need. Who are we? Florida?
 
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The PAC 12 is the second best conference in the country, and I guarantee that the top half of the PAC 12 could compete fairly well with the top half of the SEC.

Oregon, Stanford, UCLA, Arizona State, and Washington are all legit teams.

You know, I like Stanford. I like the way they play. Oregon is electric. Every year, I pull for Stanford to beat Oregon; but last year it backfired. It knocked Oregon out of the NC game and let Notre Dame in. This year, with Alabama's cream puff schedule, I'm hoping Oregon runs the table, just so the NC game will be fun to watch. The contrasting styles make for a great game.
 
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You know, I like Stanford. I like the way they play. Oregon is electric. Every year, I pull for Stanford to beat Oregon; but last year it backfired. It knocked Oregon out of the NC game and let Notre Dame in. This year, with Alabama's cream puff schedule, I'm hoping Oregon runs the table, just so the NC game will be fun to watch. The contrasting styles make for a great game.

Guy, it let Bama into the game, not Notre Dame.
 
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To the best of my knowledge Kelly had out in 6 years with the Ducks before moving to the other birds in the NFL as either OC or HC. Simply put, does it take CBJ as long to rebuild UT or will our past success put us on the fast track for future success?
Did Ethel Merman ever get tired of singing "Bill Bailey"? Why heck naw she didn't.

But I do get sick and tired of talking about how long this coach has to resurrect the dead. And all I want to say is this: 50 YEARS AT LEAST
 
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Technically speaking, Kelly pretty much did just show up and waive the magical wand. He was only at Oregon as the OC for two seasons and pretty much forced Oregon's hand to move Bellotti into the AD role. At least that is my understanding. Its not like Kelly was a life-time Oregon guy. He ran a completely different offense than the one he is known for at Oregons while he was at New Hampshire. The Philly offense is different in some elements than the Oregon offense. He is just a very good offensive and strategic coach.
It wasn't a magic wand by any means, Bellotti put 4 years into this offense(two in recruiting and planning then two more running it) before Kelly got there and notched it up. I give coach B credit for knowing what he didn't know and bringing Kelly in but it was a long term effort, not some miracle overnight thing. UT and cbj will need some time too.
 
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The PAC 12 is the second best conference in the country, and I guarantee that the top half of the PAC 12 could compete fairly well with the top half of the SEC.

Oregon, Stanford, UCLA, Arizona State, and Washington are all legit teams.

You lost me after Stanford....MAYBE UCLA, but they were crushed in their bowl game.
 
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I did mean Nike, typed my daughters name :). Why is my statement incorrect?

Oregon is more than Nike. The vast majority of Nike contribution to UO is uniform influence. Which, it should be said, is the same influence they provide to every other school sponsored by Nike. Is it an advantage that players have a minor say in Oregon uniform designs? I'm sure it is. But how does that make you conclude Oregon = Nike? The ties are big and apparent, but Nike the corporation has little to do with Oregon university. Nike hasn't donated a dime to UO's success, outside of uniform variation. Last I checked you need players, coaches, a system, a philosophy, fan support, and a history of winning to succeed. If anything, Nike has ridden the coat tails of Oregon's success as much as the other way around.
 
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You lost me after Stanford....MAYBE UCLA, but they were crushed in their bowl game.

I love that you were "lost" at Stanford. You do realize that out of Stanford, UCLA, Washington, and ASU, Stanford is by far the best of the bunch? You're "lost" in regards to college football, methinks.
 
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To the best of my knowledge Kelly had out in 6 years with the Ducks before moving to the other birds in the NFL as either OC or HC. Simply put, does it take CBJ as long to rebuild UT or will our past success put us on the fast track for future success?

This whole question makes no sense. It didn't take Kelly 6 years. Oregon was immediately successful when he took over. He was OV for the two years prior under Bellotti. He played in a BCS game each of his four years as HC. Oregon had been focused on building their football team for a long time. I guess a healthy athletic dept. makes a difference.
 
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This whole question makes no sense. It didn't take Kelly 6 years. Oregon was immediately successful when he took over. He was OV for the two years prior under Bellotti. He played in a BCS game each of his four years as HC. Oregon had been focused on building their football team for a long time. I guess a healthy athletic dept. makes a difference.

Exactly. Oregon has been very lucky. We're the winningest team in the Pac since 1993, by something like 15 games. When Kelly took over, Oregon was already a healthy program that had 15 years of consistent winning.

When Kelly took over, Oregon, in that decade, already had a program that won 9 games a year, had a BCS bowl win, victories over Michigan, Oklahoma, and Texas, and a 2007 team that looked poised to run to the national title and produce a Heisman winner in Dennis Dixon until half our team went down with injuries. All over our hires happened internally, our coaching staff has largely remained intact for at 10-20 years for some of them, and we only had one bad hire: Gary Ludwig as offensive coordinator. Even with the worst highs we made in 20 years, Oregon STILL has only experienced 1 losing season in 20 years b

Because Oregon was so bad in the 50s and 60s, we had the luxury of a patient building process that started with Rich Brooks in the late 70s. Problem is, Tennessee is more like the Yankees, Lakers, Cowboys, and Red Wings. Two seasons of struggling and it's "Next!!"

For you to get back on top - which can be achieved easily with the right coach and philosophy - you'll all have to bite the bullet and be patient. You simply can't turn a program with Tennessee's issues around in a year or two. It has to be a sustained approach and full belief in a new system. Your biggest issue is that the entire Lane Kiffen recruiting class is gone save 1 player. That's a death knell for a program. You have to put in a couple stellar recruiting cycles to replace that kind of upheaval, which CBJ looks like he's doing.

I know this sucks for you guys. As a Dodger fan, I've had to go through 20 years of **** despite being a traditional, powerhouse team. Breath deeply, know that each loss is building towards something better, each win is proof that it's happening, and remember this time proudly when Butch has you guys beating Bama and playing in the Orange bowl 4 years from now.

Look at Ole Miss. They're not even a traditionally powerful team, and all it took for them to get back into the discussion and have a future to look forward to was having one huge recruiting class. Looks like you guys might have that this recruiting cycle.

I noticed a lot of you here blaming freshman DBs and such for the poor performance. If you recruit well, youth Gould never be an excuse to lose - at least not when losing big that's purely taken. Recruit the right talent, and the freshman you put on the field should be able to shine under the right coaching and system. Look at us last Saturday. Our tight end - likely the best in the country, a first round draft pick, and an all-American candidate - missed the game because of the flu. You'd think that Oregon fans would have panicked and that we'd see a drop off in prosecution. Wrong. It's "Next man up," and a true freshman stepped in to catches 5 balls for 120-something yards and 2 scores in his first game ever. Youth means nothing. He was a beast in high school, and he was coached to perfection. Lock up this recruiting class you guys have, coach them up, and you'll be able to throw freshman and sophomores on the field without a flinch from the fans in the stand.

Patience. You have to have now more than ever. And you'll be back before you know it.
 
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And, just for the record, Oregon had a 30-18 record over the previous 4 years before Kelly got there. They were 9-4/10-3 in his 2 as OC and the rest is history after he was HFC.

Nice spot there. Most people don't realize that Bellotti had the program heading in the right direction before Kelly was even hired. And Brooks as well doesn't get enough credit. Kelly took it to another level, but it was heading there regardless.
 
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Butch only won four games his first year at Cincinnati. Then he won 9 and 10 and shares of the Big East. Give him time, we will win.
 
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You buyout people say you are scared, if we don't we get spanked on national TV.

End of year people forget that it was an embarrassing loss but in the other case we would have been branded as an SEC team that was scared of a PAC team for years to come.

I have to agree to the extent that, your right. No one will care you got blown out by Oregon. EVERYONE gets blown out by Oregon. And don't fall for the Stanford hype either. Don't forget, we blew them out with Luck starting as well. Your a program on the rise. I respect your program way more for NOT buying out and being chicken s*$ts.
 
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I have to agree to the extent that, your right. No one will care you got blown out by Oregon. EVERYONE gets blown out by Oregon. And don't fall for the Stanford hype either. Don't forget, we blew them out with Luck starting as well. Your a program on the rise. I respect your program way more for NOT buying out and being chicken s*$ts.

Seconded.
 

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