Kentucky Derby thread

#3
#3
Knob creek on ice for the derby. I enjoy picking at the last minute. We normally gather around with friends and family and draw numbers, but last year we just did free-for-all-who-you-got and put five bucks in.
 
#5
#5
cotton said:
Bourbon, sugar, mint, ice.
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2 years ago they had some special Woodford mint juleps. I think they were about $1000 a pop (charity).

Crushed ice from Antartica, sugar from Madagascar, mint from somewhere and a generous helping of Woodford's best
 
#6
#6
volinbham said:
2 years ago they had some special Woodford mint juleps. I think they were about $1000 a pop (charity).

Crushed ice from Antartica, sugar from Madagascar, mint from somewhere and a generous helping of Woodford's best
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I think I'll stick with the regular Woodford Reserve, some Domino Sugar, mint from Kroger, and ice from behind the bar. At about $7 each, I can have 142 of mine for each of the "specials," not including tip.
 
#7
#7
KnobCreek was $45.00 a bottle last I checked and I can pour as much as I want. Beat that.

oh, and my fancy fridge has one of those cool ice dispensers on the door. Boooya!
 
#9
#9
volinbham said:
2 years ago they had some special Woodford mint juleps. I think they were about $1000 a pop (charity).

Crushed ice from Antartica, sugar from Madagascar, mint from somewhere and a generous helping of Woodford's best
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In a Gold and silver Julip cup. It was last year and they raised a Million for charity.
 
#10
#10
cotton said:
I think I'll stick with the regular Woodford Reserve, some Domino Sugar, mint from Kroger, and ice from behind the bar. At about $7 each, I can have 142 of mine for each of the "specials," not including tip.
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If you make it at home use 50/50 sugar to water and boil for a couple a minutes. Then drop some mint into the mixture and let cool. You will have a mint simple syrup and it is the best way to go when making Mint Julips.
 
#11
#11
I think the Horse to beat will be Big Brown. But there is a horse that will be there that is a whale of a talent by the name of Z Fortune that will be under the radar and is bred to do it. He finished 2nd in the Arkansas Derby but had a terrible draw and was forced out 5 wide for almost the whoe race on a track that has a big inside bias. I think he may very well be the value horse of the field and his trainor Steve Asmussen is a very good trainer.
 
#12
#12
VolBeef88 said:
If you make it at home use 50/50 sugar to water and boil for a couple a minutes. Then drop some mint into the mixture and let cool. You will have a mint simple syrup and it is the best way to go when making Mint Julips.
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I want to make one are they good?
 
#13
#13
cotton said:
I think I'll stick with the regular Woodford Reserve, some Domino Sugar, mint from Kroger, and ice from behind the bar. At about $7 each, I can have 142 of mine for each of the "specials," not including tip.
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You have a better system than I do. I put the mint in the bottle along with a little sugar. It is only good for about two sittings!:eek:lol:
 
#17
#17
Knob Creek.:)

just kidding, I dont know exactly, it's very distinct for me. I think of Single Barrel Jack sometimes and maybe a hint sweeter. Its hard to describe but easy to consume.
 
#18
#18
There almost a hint of Southern Comfort at the end of it. But the after taste is very crisp.
 
#19
#19
I bet on the Derby every year and usually cash about once every three years. With up to 20 three year olds, many of whom are just coming into or out of form, its not an easy race to handicap.

A couple of tips for the Derby betting novice. First, try to get a handle on the speed of this race. Several years ago, it seemed like the race was divided into two distinct camps -- early speed and deep closers, with not a lot in between. As the saying goes, pace makes the race. And in those years, the speedsters burned each other out and the deep closers came home for the top spots.

I have not paid close attention to this year's field and so I don't know the nature of the pace here. But I have noticed in the last few years that the winner is tending to be on the lead, or just off of it, in the early going. It is certainly an advantage to have tactical speed to avoid traffic troubles.

So take a look at the racing form and make an estimate of whether there are five or six horses all of whom must have the lead to run. If so, the closers are worth looking at.

Next, pay very close attention to the works and the comments of track obervers in the week before the race. These are young and erratic horses. They often simply run like they look. If they get to Churchill Downs coming from their home track and they aren't used to the changes, it will show. They will be lethargic and washed out. Pay attention when the track observers tell you that someone looked sharp and at ease. It makes a difference.

Next, avoid the wise guy pick. Every year, about 3-4 days before the race, all of the experts start to talk about some unknown that they have reasoned stands a good chance. Its always a horse at a decent price, usually morning line 20 to 1 who goes off at 8 to 1 because of the experts.... and he stinks up the joint.

Last, if you have a hunch, bet a bunch!
 
#20
#20
lawgator1 said:
I bet on the Derby every year and usually cash about once every three years. With up to 20 three year olds, many of whom are just coming into or out of form, its not an easy race to handicap.

A couple of tips for the Derby betting novice. First, try to get a handle on the speed of this race. Several years ago, it seemed like the race was divided into two distinct camps -- early speed and deep closers, with not a lot in between. As the saying goes, pace makes the race. And in those years, the speedsters burned each other out and the deep closers came home for the top spots.

I have not paid close attention to this year's field and so I don't know the nature of the pace here. But I have noticed in the last few years that the winner is tending to be on the lead, or just off of it, in the early going. It is certainly an advantage to have tactical speed to avoid traffic troubles.

So take a look at the racing form and make an estimate of whether there are five or six horses all of whom must have the lead to run. If so, the closers are worth looking at.

Next, pay very close attention to the works and the comments of track obervers in the week before the race. These are young and erratic horses. They often simply run like they look. If they get to Churchill Downs coming from their home track and they aren't used to the changes, it will show. They will be lethargic and washed out. Pay attention when the track observers tell you that someone looked sharp and at ease. It makes a difference.

Next, avoid the wise guy pick. Every year, about 3-4 days before the race, all of the experts start to talk about some unknown that they have reasoned stands a good chance. Its always a horse at a decent price, usually morning line 20 to 1 who goes off at 8 to 1 because of the experts.... and he stinks up the joint.

Last, if you have a hunch, bet a bunch!
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good advise LAW
 
#21
#21
You didnt mention my wife's theory LG. She picks out the pretty colors and lets it roll! :)
 
#25
#25
Fine Vol said:
My girl looks for Irish themed horses:)
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In turf races, like the Breeders' Cup, I find myself often looking closely at the Europeans. I really ought to be smart than that -- the Europeans are always deep, deep, closers and the track matters. Some are good for that, some bad.


Fine Vol said:
LAW right before the derby PM me some good pics:)
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I am sure there will be plenty of people giving advice on here. I'll pick mine and post -- I typically pick two and bet exactas off of them.
 
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