Kentucky Derby thread

#26
#26
lawgator1 said:
In turf races, like the Breeders' Cup, I find myself often looking closely at the Europeans. I really ought to be smart than that -- the Europeans are always deep, deep, closers and the track matters. Some are good for that, some bad.





I am sure there will be plenty of people giving advice on here. I'll pick mine and post -- I typically pick two and bet exactas off of them.
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#27
#27
Fine Vol said:
I want to make one are they good?
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I think they are. Mint Julips are served on crushed ice in small cups that are called Julips, thus the name. Typically they are served with short straws with a sprig of mint on top of the drink so when you go for a drink you get a whiff of the mint as well.

I use Basil Hayden bourbon. It is the best IMO and costs around the same as Knobb. Both are good bourbons as well as Bookers, Bakers and Woodford Reserve.

Take a Cup of Sugar and a Cup of water bring to a boil. If you want you can do about a Cup and a half of Sugar to a cup of water and boil for about a minute or two maybe three. Then set a side with some fresh mint and let cool. It will thicken up nicely. The best part is this gives you a minty sweetner that disolves easy and you can control the amount of sweet. Then fill your Julip cup to the top with crushed ice and put a couple shots of Mothers Milk (Basil Hayden) and a couple tbs of the Syrup and give a little stir and enjoy. If you wanna go authentic use a short straw with another sprig of mint on top. It's a good drink that goes down fast.
 
#28
#28
VolBeef88 said:
I think they are. Mint Julips are served on crushed ice in small cups that are called Julips, thus the name. Typically they are served with short straws with a sprig of mint on top of the drink so when you go for a drink you get a whiff of the mint as well.

I use Basil Hayden bourbon. It is the best IMO and costs around the same as Knobb. Both are good bourbons as well as Bookers, Bakers and Woodford Reserve.

Take a Cup of Sugar and a Cup of water bring to a boil. If you want you can do about a Cup and a half of Sugar to a cup of water and boil for about a minute or two maybe three. Then set a side with some fresh mint and let cool. It will thicken up nicely. The best part is this gives you a minty sweetner that disolves easy and you can control the amount of sweet. Then fill your Julip cup to the top with crushed ice and put a couple shots of Mothers Milk (Basil Hayden) and a couple tbs of the Syrup and give a little stir and enjoy. If you wanna go authentic use a short straw with another sprig of mint on top. It's a good drink that goes down fast.
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Thanks beef
 
#29
#29
The Derby has a strong inside track bias IMO. One of the reasons is due to the way the layout of the track is. There for I pick my favorites and then wait to see how they draw. Some think it is a speedsters race etc. It all depends on where the speed draws. I dont care how good of a stalker a horse is if he gets to far behind a sprinter will get to much lead. It is not wise to pick a horse now. The best think IMO is to pick a few you like now and wait and see how they draw. Most years there are 6 horses and sometimes more that could actually win the race if they get the right breaks. Often the best horse doesnt win the Derby due to the size of the field and draw. Like last year with Curlin.
 
#32
#32
VolBeef88 said:
And if you want the short straws just cut normal straws in half. Thats what they do at ChurchHill. But there theyre 9 bucks but you get a comemorative glass with a list of all the Derby winners printed on it.
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I bet that is a hell of an experience.
 
#33
#33
Fine Vol said:
I really enjoy the Triple Crown.
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I love watching them run. If you ever get a chance to actually watch these animals run in person that far that fast it is an amazing feet. It's a lot of fun. I enjoy the Oaks as much as the Derby.
 
#34
#34
VolBeef88 said:
I love watching them run. If you ever get a chance to actually watch these animals run in person that far that fast it is an amazing feet. It's a lot of fun. I enjoy the Oaks as much as the Derby.
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What does it cost to watch the Derby in person?
 
#36
#36
VolBeef88 said:
I think they are. Mint Julips are served on crushed ice in small cups that are called Julips, thus the name. Typically they are served with short straws with a sprig of mint on top of the drink so when you go for a drink you get a whiff of the mint as well.

I use Basil Hayden bourbon. It is the best IMO and costs around the same as Knobb. Both are good bourbons as well as Bookers, Bakers and Woodford Reserve.

Take a Cup of Sugar and a Cup of water bring to a boil. If you want you can do about a Cup and a half of Sugar to a cup of water and boil for about a minute or two maybe three. Then set a side with some fresh mint and let cool. It will thicken up nicely. The best part is this gives you a minty sweetner that disolves easy and you can control the amount of sweet. Then fill your Julip cup to the top with crushed ice and put a couple shots of Mothers Milk (Basil Hayden) and a couple tbs of the Syrup and give a little stir and enjoy. If you wanna go authentic use a short straw with another sprig of mint on top. It's a good drink that goes down fast.
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sounds great. no soda water? i thought that was standard (don't shoot the messager :))
 
#37
#37
Fine Vol said:
I bet that is a hell of an experience.
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It is. Go with a group and dont make the mistake of not getting seats. They are worth it. If you get seats you get a bracelet that allows you access to the infield so you can go in there and watch the "show" yet allows you a place to go and actually see the race. From the infield you cant see the track hardly at all.
What I do is pick my races and bet them all soon as I get there so I only go to the windo twice all day.
1. To make bets.
2. To collect! :)
 
#40
#40
Fine Vol said:
What does it cost to watch the Derby in person?
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Depends on where you wanna sit. You can get grandstand seats for around 100 bucks on the cheap. If you get higher (which is better because you can see more of the track) they are more. I sit in section 117 Lower Club House. Not the best or worst but pretty good seats.
 
#41
#41
I might add also that I have seen people or know people who scalped tickets around 2 pm the day of who got some good seats for a really good price. It's like any event. It's up to you and if you scalp the later you wait the cheaper you get often. But it is fun. I go for "business" reasons. :whistling:
 
#42
#42
VolBeef88 said:
Depends on where you wanna sit. You can get grandstand seats for around 100 bucks on the cheap. If you get higher (which is better because you can see more of the track) they are more. I sit in section 117 Lower Club House. Not the best or worst but pretty good seats.
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Thats really cool Beef.
 
#43
#43
VolBeef88 said:
I might add also that I have seen people or know people who scalped tickets around 2 pm the day of who got some good seats for a really good price. It's like any event. It's up to you and if you scalp the later you wait the cheaper you get often. But it is fun. I go for "business" reasons. :whistling:
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You work for a dog food company:)
 
#45
#45
As it sits now, I'll probably run exacta boxes, Gayego with both Big Brown and Colonel John. He was solid in his first dirt trip at the Arkansas Derby, and i think the 2 frontrunners will duel until one runs out of gas down the stretch.

That said, the plays are alot better at the beginning of the card, not nearly as much analysis being thrown about. The way Big Brown ran at Florida, i figure he'll be about 3-5 by post time, meaning you have to bet alot of money to make anything worthwhile.
 
#46
#46
VolBeef88 said:
What I do is pick my races and bet them all soon as I get there so I only go to the windo twice all day.
1. To make bets.
2. To collect! :)
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I'm a last minute bettor, myself, although i do it almost exclusively online. I like seeing the line move one way or the other, trying to work profit as much as possible. Great part of online betting.

I rarely see live racing, other than trips to Saratoga for the Travers the past 2 years, just as much talent there as at the Derby, though i imagine the atmosphere at Churchill on Derby Saturday is unbelievable.
 
#47
#47
VolBeef88 said:
If you make it at home use 50/50 sugar to water and boil for a couple a minutes. Then drop some mint into the mixture and let cool. You will have a mint simple syrup and it is the best way to go when making Mint Julips.
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I've had them made with the syrup method, and they taste good and are easy to make once the syrup is prepared. Personally, I use the mortar and pestal method, crushing some mint in the bottom of the glass before adding the other ingredients. There is less chance of me scalding my feet on the third one that way.


VolBeef88 said:
I use Basil Hayden bourbon.
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Absolutely my favorite bourbon under $100.

Fine Vol said:
I want to make one are they good?
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I enjoy them very much...

once a year.


Fine Vol said:
What does it cost to watch the Derby in person?
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Anywhere from "not that much" to "priceless-- you can't buy it, you have to know somebody."

droski said:
sounds great. no soda water? i thought that was standard (don't shoot the messager :))
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Hippie.
 
#48
#48
I bought one of those betting mags at Churchhill Downs last year and I left the track in the positive. It really helped me, don't know if any of you "experts" need one, but I recommend one for any first timer.
 
#49
#49
The Dude said:
I bought one of those betting mags at Churchhill Downs last year and I left the track in the positive. It really helped me, don't know if any of you "experts" need one, but I recommend one for any first timer.
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Not a bad move at all. Honestly, the more you learn about horse betting, the more your brain spins over the equibase charts.

There are obvious favorites in most races, but the favorite wins only one of three starts, overall. You're better off going with the flock and cashing some tickets than you are looking for home runs through the numbers, if you're out to have a good time and sip some cocktails.
 
#50
#50
JTrainDavis said:
Not a bad move at all. Honestly, the more you learn about horse betting, the more your brain spins over the equibase charts.

There are obvious favorites in most races, but the favorite wins only one of three starts, overall. You're better off going with the flock and cashing some tickets than you are looking for home runs through the numbers, if you're out to have a good time and sip some cocktails.
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And in the Derby its more like one out of every 20 times. Favorites actually rarely win in the Derby.
 
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