Kentucky fan thoughts

[Volfansince1980]

I bring it up again: go through the training and become one. The numbers are low. Nothing is stopping you from going through the process to become an official and add to the numbers.

And these two things contradict each other. You don't like the number of games one guy calls, but want them to do it full-time?

He just said he tried his hand at officiating. I also volunteered my time when I was done playing sports. Your defiant attitude tells me all I need to know about insecure mental midgets that never excelled at anything athletically. Reminds me of the kids that get shoved in lockers that go into law enforcement.

 

[VolGee4]

I bring it up again: go through the training and become one. The numbers are low. Nothing is stopping you from going through the process to become an official and add to the numbers.

And these two things contradict each other. You don't like the number of games one guy calls, but want them to do it full-time?

If you had paid attention, I have done it- at a young age. I went through the training as a teenager. I have a law degree now, and I can focus my career on that.

Do you not see the difference in paying someone full-time to do a job and leaving it up to an independent contractor to grab every game he can officiate? There would be far more to apply if the SEC used their hundreds of millions of dollars to pay officials a 6 figure salary. In basketball, SEC games are played every Tuesday/Wednesday/Saturday- not every day of the week.

Stop this nonsense. It's not an attack on what you do. Leagues can do better, but they are choosing not to.

 

[whobethis16]

He just said he tried his hand at officiating. I also volunteered my time when I was done playing sports. Your defiant attitude tells me all I need to know about insecure mental midgets that never excelled at anything athletically. Reminds me of the kids that get shoved in lockers that go into law enforcement.

Says the one that couldn't argue without starting the personal attacks, ie "your dad sucks" and the "homo" comment. Talk about being a mental midget.

 

[whobethis16]

If you had paid attention, I have done it- at a young age. I went through the training as a teenager. I have a law degree now, and I can focus my career on that.

Do you not see the difference in paying someone full-time to do a job and leaving it up to an independent contractor to grab every game he can officiate? There would be far more to apply if the SEC used their hundreds of millions of dollars to pay officials a 6 figure salary. In basketball, SEC games are played every Tuesday/Wednesday/Saturday- not every day of the week.

Stop this nonsense. It's not an attack on what you do. Leagues can do better, but they are choosing not to.

But you left. There's an epidemic of lack of officials, for lots of reasons. You're going to castrate those that have stuck with it when you stopped. We have HS baseball games going with 1 umpire due to lack of officials. If it's not the number of games, it's how old they are. Young people do not want to get involved due to treatment, and this board is a valid example of it.

 

[VolGee4]

But you left. There's an epidemic of lack of officials, for lots of reasons. You're going to castrate those that have stuck with it when you stopped. We have HS baseball games going with 1 umpire due to lack of officials. If it's not the number of games, it's how old they are. Young people do not want to get involved due to treatment, and this board is a valid example of it.

You have to separate the level that you are referring to and the level that we watch on tv on a daily basis. The "lack of officials" is not why we are seeing incompetence at the college level because these same guys have been doing it for years. The bottom lines for pro and college leagues keep going up, yet it appears that they don't want to spend that much more money for officiating games. Maybe the NFL, but I don't think the SEC has done much of anything.

I know that the every day recreational leagues have been hurting for officials. I don't demand nearly as much out of them as I do those that officiate pro and college games. But I have had a discussion with a league director of a basketball league I coach in, and I do expect officials to at least get to half court for the offensive side of the ball.

I am considering getting back into it, but I have 4 kids that take up much of my time. It would never be about the money either. When I did it as a teenager, I would ignore half the people unless a coach was asking a question. Too many now have rabbit ears and let it bother them. It's competition, and people get into it.

 

[whobethis16]

You have to separate the level that you are referring to and the level that we watch on tv on a daily basis. The "lack of officials" is not why we are seeing incompetence at the college level because these same guys have been doing it for years. The bottom lines for pro and college leagues keep going up, yet it appears that they don't want to spend that much more money for officiating games. Maybe the NFL, but I don't think the SEC has done much of anything.

I know that the every day recreational leagues have been hurting for officials. I don't demand nearly as much out of them as I do those that officiate pro and college games. But I have had a discussion with a league director of a basketball league I coach in, and I do expect officials to at least get to half court for the offensive side of the ball.

I am considering getting back into it, but I have 4 kids that take up much of my time. It would never be about the money either. When I did it as a teenager, I would ignore half the people unless a coach was asking a question. Too many now have rabbit ears and let it bother them. It's competition, and people get into it.

Yes, but all these that are doing college and above started at the youth levels. If you don't bring people into the youth levels and wanting to advance, they will not work their way into juco and up.

And there are too many schmucks in the stands coming onto courts and assaulting officials, too many fans cheering the 250 DL absolutely plowing over the football official, too many parents yelling profane and personal attacks at umpires and threatening to meet them in the parking lot. No amount of money is worth that.

 

[VolGee4]

Yes, but all these that are doing college and above started at the youth levels. If you don't bring people into the youth levels and wanting to advance, they will not work their way into juco and up.

And there are too many schmucks in the stands coming onto courts and assaulting officials, too many fans cheering the 250 DL absolutely plowing over the football official, too many parents yelling profane and personal attacks at umpires and threatening to meet them in the parking lot. No amount of money is worth that.

There is a happy medium. I have seen some verbal barbs and some intense games/situations. But I don't believe that I have ever seen an assault on an official. I have coached my 5th grade son for 5 years, and I have had some disagreements and some back and forth. But I have never cussed or made any personal attacks. Yet, some still get upset when you question their call. It's like they are beyond reproach. Both sides of the aisle can't be so sensitive.

Maybe it becomes a problem at the higher levels in a few years when some of these guys retire, but right now, the problem in college is not for a lack of officials. I go back to hiring them full-time. If the SEC decided to pay officials a minimum of $150k per year for spring games, 13 weeks in the fall, and then train every other time of the year, they would get applicants who would be devoted to honing their craft and keeping their job. They would also grade them out and may not get retained if they fell below a certain level...just like every other job out there.

 

[whobethis16]

There is a happy medium. I have seen some verbal barbs and some intense games/situations. But I don't believe that I have ever seen an assault on an official. I have coached my 5th grade son for 5 years, and I have had some disagreements and some back and forth. But I have never cussed or made any personal attacks. Yet, some still get upset when you question their call. It's like they are beyond reproach. Both sides of the aisle can't be so sensitive.

Maybe it becomes a problem at the higher levels in a few years when some of these guys retire, but right now, the problem in college is not for a lack of officials. I go back to hiring them full-time. If the SEC decided to pay officials a minimum of $150k per year for spring games, 13 weeks in the fall, and then train every other time of the year, they would get applicants who would be devoted to honing their craft and keeping their job. They would also grade them out and may not get retained if they fell below a certain level...just like every other job out there.

That's great, not being sarcastic, that you've not seen it, but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

Police: Parent assaults referee at middle school basketball game

Heartland referee speaks out after attack

https://www.newschannel5.com/news/basketball-referee-recovering-after-police-say-coach-attacked-him

There is nothing in the job description/rulebooks that say officials are to accept being verbally and, now more and more, physically abused/assaulted. Too many parents think they have the right to do that, and it's disgusting. And people are more and more accepting of letting players act like that towards officials.

Kentucky fans trash referee's roofing business on its own Facebook page

And there's this regarding a college official. It's disgusting.

 

[Volfansince1980]

Says the one that couldn't argue without starting the personal attacks, ie "your dad sucks" and the "homo" comment. Talk about being a mental midget.

Yeah, we will just skate over the portion of the debate when you made ad hominem attacks assuming someone was a fatass couch potato. The reason you got that reply was because you got called on your bs and your little triggered feelings got hurt. Like most refs, you’re fragile and can’t take the heat. Probably hit the sissy button too

 

[VolGee4]

That's great, not being sarcastic, that you've not seen it, but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

Police: Parent assaults referee at middle school basketball game

Heartland referee speaks out after attack

https://www.newschannel5.com/news/basketball-referee-recovering-after-police-say-coach-attacked-him

There is nothing in the job description/rulebooks that say officials are to accept being verbally and, now more and more, physically abused/assaulted. Too many parents think they have the right to do that, and it's disgusting. And people are more and more accepting of letting players act like that towards officials.

Kentucky fans trash referee's roofing business on its own Facebook page

And there's this regarding a college official. It's disgusting.

Those aren’t every day events. Of course, I’ve seen news about them. But in hundreds of games done in my city, it doesn’t happen.

 

[whobethis16]

Yeah, we will just skate over the portion of the debate when you made ad hominem attacks assuming someone was a fatass couch potato. The reason you got that reply was because you got called on your bs and your little triggered feelings got hurt. Like most refs, you’re fragile and can’t take the heat. Probably hit the sissy button too

And we're skipping over you starting all that mess bringing in my family, so don't even try to act like I initiated it.

 

[Volfansince1980]

And we're skipping over you starting all that mess bringing in my family, so don't even try to act like I initiated it.

Lol. You're weak

 

[whobethis16]

Lol. You're weak

So I'm weak for calling out your garbage of attacking someone's family? OK.

 

[Volfansince1980]

So I'm weak for calling out your garbage of attacking someone's family? OK.

I said your dad must have been a ref is attacking your family? Dude, I don’t play the woke bs game. If you’re going to try and be a martyr, probably should pick a different target because I truly don’t care about your feelings

 

[whobethis16]

I said your dad must have been a ref is attacking your family? Dude, I don’t play the woke bs game. If you’re going to try and be a martyr, probably should pick a different target because I truly don’t care about your feelings

Saying "he sucks", when 1. He's not been a ref for 40 years and 2. Possibly deathly sick and 3. Has nothing to do with this conversation, is attacking him. So yeah, I'm going to take offense to you being garbage, which has nothing to do with "being woke". Just because you've had a miserable life and get off on dragging others into the gutter with you doesn't mean the rest are going to take it.

 

[whobethis16]

Those aren’t every day events. Of course, I’ve seen news about them. But in hundreds of games done in my city, it doesn’t happen.

Those are also just the ones that made the news. I've been approached and verbally attacked in the parking lot. It's a terrifying situation. Others I've worked with have been approached and verbally attacked at gas stations after the game. None of these made the news.

 

[Sudden Impact]

The best way to Sum Up this Game of which the Refs played No Part in or of which did not affect the outcome of the game is as Follows:

NO FGs in 10+++ Minutes. Plenty of Opportunities, but 0 FGs.

Refs didn't control any of that and several of the Fouls called against Us were tic tack fouls.

 

[Model12]

Don't forget the face mask...oh, wait...

You lost me at Kentucky fan "thoughts".

 

[LittleCat]

Whoa, Little Cat! No need for name calling. I didn't say that myself, I only posted that someone else said it. I barely can remember one game from the next. I would have to go watch a replay of the game to see if any of it is true, and I did say in my previous post, "if it was true". Let's be kind to each other.

Definitely sounded harsh in my comment so I apologize.

 

[Volfansince1980]

Saying "he sucks", when 1. He's not been a ref for 40 years and 2. Possibly deathly sick and 3. Has nothing to do with this conversation, is attacking him. So yeah, I'm going to take offense to you being garbage, which has nothing to do with "being woke". Just because you've had a miserable life and get off on dragging others into the gutter with you doesn't mean the rest are going to take it.

My life is fine clown boy. Again, your fake anger does nothing for me. You're just mad because you had to ref to watch other people achieve something you could never physically do. I would think guys like you use reffing to get back at people who made you feel inferior growing up. Sounds like you need a couple of sessions on a professional's couch. Either way, I'm done engaging in this foolishness. I let you continue to exist in your triggered little world.

 

[whobethis16]

My life is fine clown boy. Again, your fake anger does nothing for me. You're just mad because you had to ref to watch other people achieve something you could never physically do. I would think guys like you use reffing to get back at people who made you feel inferior growing up. Sounds like you need a couple of sessions on a professional's couch. Either way, I'm done engaging in this foolishness. I let you continue to exist in your triggered little world.

I'm sure it is, given you act like this.

And you know nothing of my athletic career because I don't need to thump my chest over my podunk high school accolades like you do.

 

[Volfansince1980]

I'm sure it is, given you act like this.

And you know nothing of my athletic career because I don't need to thump my chest over my podunk high school accolades like you do.

But you will thump your chest about being a rec league ref. You talk out of both ends of your mouth as well as play the victim. Nobody should take anything you say seriously

 

[VolGee4]

I’m going to renew my argument that the officiating is horrendous, and it has been for years. The college game is bad right now.

 

[whobethis16]

But you will thump your chest about being a rec league ref. You talk out of both ends of your mouth as well as play the victim. Nobody should take anything you say seriously

When your life peaks in high school, as evidently yours did since you are so miserable now, it's really sad.

 

[Volfansince1980]

When your life peaks in high school, as evidently yours did since you are so miserable now, it's really sad.

I actually wrestled in college on a scholarship. So nice try. By the way your fellow refs looked like a bunch of demetia patients calling a game today. Only thing I see as sad is people like you and your dad pretending to be athletes by jacking up a game due to your lack of understanding as to how it works.