kill the grumbling about CJH

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It's starting. The armchair AD's are starting to pop up. "CJH ain't ****!" You want Jimbo? I hear he's looking. Anybody see Gruden on campus? Maybe someone has Urban Meyer on speed dial? No?

Seriously.....he's made us relevant again for the first time in a lot of our fans lifetimes. We actually sat at the #1 ranking. Yes it was for about a week last year. But for a team that's barely sniffed a top 25 ranking in almost 2 decades, we should be over the top thrilled, even with this disappointing season. We beat Alabama for the first time since Reagan was in office. We beat Florida for the first time since we stopped knowing which bathroom to use. We got some monkeys off our back.

You think there wouldn't be setbacks? We play in the SEC. We play in what is arguably the best division in the best conference in the NCAA. We had a Heisman quality QB last season. Who do you think saw that potential? Who turned a wide receiver corps of nobodies into NFL players? Who made us the best running team in the SEC? Who is about to put some running backs in the NFL? you think all that came from a talentless hack? Are we where we want to be? heck no. The rebuild is still in process. Probably will take 3-4 more years, at best, before we can sustainably compete with Alabama and Georgia. And we better hope FL doesn't get their legs back under them in the mean time. "Well, we got stomped by SC, Mizzou, and FL and they are garbage...." yep. We had bad games. We got exposed. We curb stomp UCONN and start crowing about "Vols by Fiddy!" against Bama. 75% of the people on VN are turnip seeds who believe their own hype. Sit down. Shut up. The adults are talking. We have work to do. He's the coach and will be for several more years.
 
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volfan_28 said:
There was like 20 of us complaining about him last night cause we were mad but now the number is down to maybe 5. Most of us still love him.
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Some of us still love him, but are also still complaining due to the issues that were visible all season long and his reaction (or lack of) to them.

Contrary to popular belief around here, it is possible to support and love a coach but also be critical of him where warranted. No different in the business world, you don’t get the most of your employees and coworkers by doing nothing but singing their praises and ignoring where they are wrong or need improvement.
 
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It’s been my experience most of the ridiculous comments condemning CJH are from the same basic people and I’ve learned to “tune them out”. Yeah it does interfere occasionally with having intelligent, factual conversation about the team, recruiting, future games etc but in a free society it’s necessary to have dissenting opinions. After all we’re having this same free speech battle all around us in our nation. Guess sports isn’t exempt. 🤷‍♂️
 
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xpsyclonex2002 said:
It's starting. The armchair AD's are starting to pop up. "CJH ain't ****!" You want Jimbo? I hear he's looking. Anybody see Gruden on campus? Maybe someone has Urban Meyer on speed dial? No?

Seriously.....he's made us relevant again for the first time in a lot of our fans lifetimes. We actually sat at the #1 ranking. Yes it was for about a week last year. But for a team that's barely sniffed a top 25 ranking in almost 2 decades, we should be over the top thrilled, even with this disappointing season. We beat Alabama for the first time since Reagan was in office. We beat Florida for the first time since we stopped knowing which bathroom to use. We got some monkeys off our back.

You think there wouldn't be setbacks? We play in the SEC. We play in what is arguably the best division in the best conference in the NCAA. We had a Heisman quality QB last season. Who do you think saw that potential? Who turned a wide receiver corps of nobodies into NFL players? Who made us the best running team in the SEC? Who is about to put some running backs in the NFL? you think all that came from a talentless hack? Are we where we want to be? heck no. The rebuild is still in process. Probably will take 3-4 more years, at best, before we can sustainably compete with Alabama and Georgia. And we better hope FL doesn't get their legs back under them in the mean time. "Well, we got stomped by SC, Mizzou, and FL and they are garbage...." yep. We had bad games. We got exposed. We curb stomp UCONN and start crowing about "Vols by Fiddy!" against Bama. 75% of the people on VN are turnip seeds who believe their own hype. Sit down. Shut up. The adults are talking. We have work to do. He's the coach and will be for several more years.
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I don’t really see many screaming to replace him. That’s just something you sunshine pumpers have made up in your head. However, some criticism is warranted. Thus team fell apart. This team has 0 leadership, desire, fight, and they laid down. You can like it or not but the head coach answers for that. I suggest you ladies crying about criticism read a book “extreme ownership”. Coach Heup owns this team for better or worse. Right now it’s worse. I’ll bet he understands that. It’s unfortunate that some of you don’t.
 
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It's not Heupel that most fans are concerned about, it's his coordinators that have a hard time at this level, everybody on staff is a tireless recruiter, but who has the ability to improve our players' skill sets, create schemes and formations to attack the other team and make decisions regarding putting talent on the field and building a team next year that is better than this year's team.
 
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tennrich1 said:
It’s been my experience most of the ridiculous comments condemning CJH are from the same basic people and I’ve learned to “tune them out”. Yeah it does interfere occasionally with having intelligent, factual conversation about the team, recruiting, future games etc but in a free society it’s necessary to have dissenting opinions. After all we’re having this same free speech battle all around us in our nation. Guess sports isn’t exempt. 🤷‍♂️
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The past few presidents have set a bad example on how to debate a dissenting opinion without resorting to name calling and personal attacks.
 
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Rocky Top T said:
Like Heupel, but he needs a different DC. Heupel should get 2 more years, then we will see. He's gotta stop being their best friend and be a coach
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I get your frustration, I’m there too. Banks though were criminally thin still at LBer and have been decimated by injuries the past couple years at DB. Banks has shown promise in some games; hell you can argue defense and special team won the A&M game for us.
 
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The Tall Gguy said:
OP with the typical strawman post reeking of hyperbole and half truths.

In reality l, what I am seeing is the consensus that the play this season is unacceptable and CJH must produce better results. Our team needs to be competitive in EVERY game.
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Lot of SEC schools outside of Bama and Georgia are not pleased with the performence of their overpaid coaches this year. The Kentucky board is having a complete meltdown and hoping Stoops will just leave, because they can't afford his buyout. Sadly, Drinkwitz was the only SEC coach who received a new pay extension last year and went outside the organization and hired the best OC he could find.
 
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Rocky Top T said:
Like Heupel, but he needs a different DC. Heupel should get 2 more years, then we will see. He's gotta stop being their best friend and be a coach
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I'm not sure we need a different DC. I'm obviously not thrilled about the defensive performance the last 2 games but we were playing 4th string players. The defense has only gotten better and better with Banks before all the injuries. I think we just need to keep adding depth. Poor Slaughter probably played his best effort game ever last night. He made the right reads and was in the right positions every play...he just wasn't fast enough/big enough/etc for UGAs army of 5 stars.

With that said, I also think it made Joe look great in practice. Ramel/Squirrel/Nimrod etc were probably getting loads of separation at practice and burning them up where Joe could hesitate and still look in control. As a coach, if I have a 6th year senior making all the right throws and a true freshmen making the throws but still learning the playbook and adding weight, why in the world would I play the freshmen? If the receivers can't get open, throwing Nico in there might help a tiny bit but not enough for it to be worth it.
 
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The bottom line here is the reality not one person on this board will be named next head coach of Tennessee vols not now nor never..Ill be happy to take the direction this program has been going since cjh came in ..Alot are mostly to young to even know but the last this program felt this good was mid 90s ..Lets be fans and enjoy the ride .when it looks like dooley is coaching or we start building brick by brick we can start to noise ..
 
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