Kirby Smart Named UGA Coach?

[HoptownVol]

Let me tell you what makes no sense...you.
You think Smart will almost certainly succeed because of three reasons
First he coached under Saban
Second the talent in Georgia.
Third Richt went 10- 5 against

The Charlie Weis comparison was ONE, I repeat ONE of many comparisons I could give and that is why I said many OC and DC coaches that have worked under great coaches have failed so that is just saying Smart does is not an automatic success. You know Dooley worked under Saban right? Also I said Smart might probably has his own ways of doing things, not just copy Saban. Plus it is not as easy as you would thing to copy someone even if wanted to, because personality/the way you relate and communicate can be so different.

On point of talent if sooo easy why Tennessee have lead on overall record slight as it may be? They have had talent in Georgia for quite some time you know.

What makes no sense is your comparison of Richt going 10-5 against us. Hello, that was during our worst years in TENNESSEE HISTORY!!!

And saying no reason to think he would not be successful and will be successful is really splitting hairs imo.

Again I repeat I nobody knows if he will succeed, but saying "there is no reason to believe he will not succeed" is ridiculous imo.

Oh lord, I'll get back to this tomorrow. The all time record has no bearing on TODAY for crying out loud.

This is like arguing with a bunch of pre-teens.

 

[Dragon18]

Oh lord, I'll get back to this tomorrow. The all time record has no bearing on TODAY for crying out loud.

This is like arguing with a bunch of pre-teens.

The problem is that you can't analyze numbers without factoring in the current trending. The point the other poster was making is that UT is trending up after a decade of decline. Whereas your number of 10-5 may be correct it doesn't necessarily reflect the current competitive situation.

You have also been the only poster with a definitive stance on this matter. I don't think anyone has said Smart WILL NOT be successful (I know I haven't), and have only stated that it is more risky to hire a coordinator into a major HC position than a HC with a proven track record.

As for arguing with preteens, you're the only one that ends a post with hurling insults or calling people stupid... much like a preteen...

 

[NashVol11]

Feel free to post all the "inconsistencies." Good luck.

Many of you could use a course in basic comprehension it seems.

No I said his point was stupid. Now you tell me if this makes any sense.

"Charlie Weis left the Pats for ND and failed, therefore Kirby Smart leaving Alabama for UGA = Fail"

See, I told you it didn't make any sense.

I pointed out that Smart was a risk, which he is. Then you said:

and all this "risky coordinator" business is even more kooky when that guy just spent 10 years
working for Nick Saban, winning titles, and recruiting at the highest level.

Volnpowell pointed out that Charlie Weis spent a lot of time working for an even better coach than Saban and also winning titles, and still failed as a head coach. That's a relevant counterpoint, illustrating the point that the "risky coordinator business" isn't "kooky," it's fact. No one is saying that Smart will fail because Weis did.

 

[UGADawg4Life]

Let me tell you what makes no sense...you.
You think Smart will almost certainly succeed because of three reasons
First he coached under Saban
Second the talent in Georgia.
Third Richt went 10- 5 against

The Charlie Weis comparison was ONE, I repeat ONE of many comparisons I could give and that is why I said many OC and DC coaches that have worked under great coaches have failed so that is just saying Smart does is not an automatic success. You know Dooley worked under Saban right? Also I said Smart might probably has his own ways of doing things, not just copy Saban. Plus it is not as easy as you would thing to copy someone even if wanted to, because personality/the way you relate and communicate can be so different.

On point of talent if sooo easy why Tennessee have lead on overall record slight as it may be? They have had talent in Georgia for quite some time you know.

What makes no sense is your comparison of Richt going 10-5 against us. Hello, that was during our worst years in TENNESSEE HISTORY!!!

And saying no reason to think he would not be successful and will be successful is really splitting hairs imo.

Again I repeat I nobody knows if he will succeed, but saying "there is no reason to believe he will not succeed" is ridiculous imo.

I don't quite understand this argument. "CMR went 10-5 against us because we were bad." Isn't that what winning and losing is all about? One team wins over another because they're better. Any programs can say " the only reason we lost is because we sucked." You can't just count the good years. The bad ones count just as much.

I've seen it posted on this board many, many times that the poster hoped UGA would keep CMR for many years because he was a mediocre HC who underachieved. Now some posters are saying that Smart is an iffy hire because he has no track record as a HC. Saban didn't start as a HC. He was an assistant first. All good HCs had to start somewhere. And hiring an experienced HC like Dooley doesn't always pan out as well. You have to look at a guys characteristics to gauge the likelihood of his success. Smart has a high football IQ, he's hard working, he's been a big part of the most successful CFB program of recent history, he's a proven great recruiter, and he's taking over a program in one of the most talent rich states in the country.

No one can be absolutely sure of what his level of success will be at UGA. But I think it was a darn good hire and I don't think UGA could have done any better.

 

[volnpowell]

I don't quite understand this argument. "CMR went 10-5 against us because we were bad." Isn't that what winning and losing is all about? One team wins over another because they're better. Any programs can say " the only reason we lost is because we sucked." You can't just count the good years. The bad ones count just as much.

I've seen it posted on this board many, many times that the poster hoped UGA would keep CMR for many years because he was a mediocre HC who underachieved. Now some posters are saying that Smart is an iffy hire because he has no track record as a HC. Saban didn't start as a HC. He was an assistant first. All good HCs had to start somewhere. And hiring an experienced HC like Dooley doesn't always pan out as well. You have to look at a guys characteristics to gauge the likelihood of his success. Smart has a high football IQ, he's hard working, he's been a big part of the most successful CFB program of recent history, he's a proven great recruiter, and he's taking over a program in one of the most talent rich states in the country.

No one can be absolutely sure of what his level of success will be at UGA. But I think it was a darn good hire and I don't think UGA could have done any better.

Not saying only count the good years, nor the bad. That is why I stated we have overall lead on record. Also 10-5 is pretty mediocre at best considering how bad we have been, so you can take that into consideration. Now if he went 13-2 or something that would be more like what he should have done imo.

I also stated I did not say he would fail only responding to Hoptown who said "He saw no reason to believe he would not succeed" and that hiring a coordinator is a little risky. Again, he may do well, just a little more risk.

Was there any other points I made you felt unfair in my previous posts, because like I figured Hoptown could not directly respond to any of my opinions?

Thanks for being respectful in your post btw.

 

[johnrlansford]

I don't quite understand this argument. "CMR went 10-5 against us because we were bad." Isn't that what winning and losing is all about? One team wins over another because they're better. Any programs can say " the only reason we lost is because we sucked." You can't just count the good years. The bad ones count just as much.

I've seen it posted on this board many, many times that the poster hoped UGA would keep CMR for many years because he was a mediocre HC who underachieved. Now some posters are saying that Smart is an iffy hire because he has no track record as a HC. Saban didn't start as a HC. He was an assistant first. All good HCs had to start somewhere. And hiring an experienced HC like Dooley doesn't always pan out as well. You have to look at a guys characteristics to gauge the likelihood of his success. Smart has a high football IQ, he's hard working, he's been a big part of the most successful CFB program of recent history, he's a proven great recruiter, and he's taking over a program in one of the most talent rich states in the country.

No one can be absolutely sure of what his level of success will be at UGA. But I think it was a darn good hire and I don't think UGA could have done any better.

ok I agree with most of what you said but then you ruined it by saying that UGA couldn't have done any better?

There are 25-50 other proven head coaches that they could have hired, that would have been better. The true question is will he transition to a head coach at a major program. He will not get as much time to learn the ropes like he would at a smaller school. This is the SEC and coaches are a dime a dozen.

Kirby Smary may be a good coach at UGA, or he may flop and be fired in 3 years, who knows.

Saban has a horrible track record for preparing assisant coaches to be head coaches, the jury is still out on Mcelwain at flordia we will see if he can sustain it.

Smart has a lot of talent to recruit and on his current roster he has all of the pieces in place to be sucessful, but that doens't mean he will be. I wish him well but i still think UGA deserves to flop on Smart because of the way that they did Mark Richt.

But it is crazy to think that they couldn't have hired a better coach, the obviously could have, Saban, Meyer, and Stoops just to name a few. There are plenty of proven head coaches out there who they could have hired but they took a chance on Smart. I can't blame him, he passes the eye test and has all of the criteria you look for as an assistant to hire as a head coach, just maybe not a top 20 program in the country.

 

[RDU VOL#14]

That 10-5 record CMR had against us could very easily have been 8-7 or 7-8. For the most part the games were always very competitive during his tenure, the '03 debacle, our wins in '06 & '07 '09 and then the UGA win in 2010 after the LSU disaster are the only ones that were blowouts. '08 was never in doubt, but yet competitive.

You guys that are hoping and thinking he's a Muschamp clone are doing just that, hoping. Smart has the advantage of seeing guys like Muschamp and Dooley fall flat and give a blue print for what not to do. I'm very interested to see what kind of offense they will run and if Eason is going to be the guy. Week 1 is no joke versus Carolina, they can score points, but I expect Chubb to have around 270 yards rushing. Should be a shootout.