Kirby Smart Named UGA Coach?

[BowlBrother85]

I think there's a certain amount of "I hope Smart fails" on this board. And I get it. Not many here would admit it, but I think many would be very excited if UT had hired Smart when they hired Jones. Especially given the fact that he shored up a great recruiting class his first year and filled a stadium his first Spring game. There are no guarantees, but I like the enthusiasm that Smart has brought to Athens so far. UGA will always get the athletes. We just need someone who can coach them up rather than put the to sleep. I think we have that guy.

This is not only wrong, it's downright ignorant of Tennessee's circumstances in December of 2012 when Butch Jones was hired. Hiring another Saban protege who was a career long defensive assistant and with UGA ties (a former UGA player) would not have been marketable to the Tennessee fan base after the Derek Dooley fiasco. There not only wouldn't have been excitement, there would have been outrage.

You're right that Tennessee fans want Smart to fail (excluding trolls like Hoptown) just like Georgia fans want Jones to fail. This is a Tennessee message board. If such sentiment bothers you, perhaps you should post somewhere else. Again, the similarities between Smart and Muschamp are impossible to ignore and completely legitimate to point out.

 

[UTwild82]

My feelings were that I was happy Dooley was gone. Jones didn't take the UT job after just being a coordinator. He had been a successful HC at Central Michigan and then at Cincinnati. I think having experience as a HC matters. Smart may do a great job, but it's a risky hire to hire a coordinator to the HC of an SEC team.

I agree with this. Smart may turn out to be an amazing hire, but he could also be Muschamp 2.0.

 

[SamRebel35]

If I were a Georgia fan, I would be excited about his potential, but would reserve my opinion on him until he has a little bit of a sample size at HC to work with. Certainly the potential is there for him to be a good coach. Defensive resume, good coaching tree, good recruiting, etc. Those attributes are necessary, but not sufficient in and of themselves. There is much more to the job than coordinating a 11 man unit.

 

[HoptownVol]

What is silly, is your trolling of this board. There are many similarities between Muschamp and Smart. I gave no analysis whatsoever but simply pointed out those similarities with nothing but facts.

And why don't you learn how to type without having to indent and leave such long empty spaces???? Your posts look like crap in addition to being incoherent.

Trolling the board because I think Georgia will be a threat in the east? And now you're complaining
about the formatting which means you've already lost this argument. Keep that dictionary handy 85,
I might misspell something so you be ready to pounce OK!

 

[HoptownVol]

Haha you're not very good at trolling

Wrong, taking the position that "Georgia will never amount to anything" is trolling, at the least its
just a statement of ignorance. And I'm not saying Smart will duplicate Alabama's success, just the program.
Odds are good that team will be successful, anybody that thinks otherwise is just in denial.

 

[GAVol]

What were your feelings when UT hired CBJ? What was his resume as a coordinator? Better than Smart's?

Butch Jones was a head coach and we didn't run a successful coach to make room for him and we had just won 5 games so there was only one direction to go. The situations aren't comparable at all.

I award you no points.

 

[joevol33]

If I were a Georgia fan, I would be excited about his potential, but would reserve my opinion on him until he has a little bit of a sample size at HC to work with. Certainly the potential is there for him to be a good coach. Defensive resume, good coaching tree, good recruiting, etc. Those attributes are necessary, but not sufficient in and of themselves. There is much more to the job than coordinating a 11 man unit.

This

 

[UGADawg4Life]

If I were a Georgia fan, I would be excited about his potential, but would reserve my opinion on him until he has a little bit of a sample size at HC to work with. Certainly the potential is there for him to be a good coach. Defensive resume, good coaching tree, good recruiting, etc. Those attributes are necessary, but not sufficient in and of themselves. There is much more to the job than coordinating a 11 man unit.

I'm not ready to anoint CKS savior yet, but the signs are positive for his success. He's very bright and hardworking, and has brought a new excitement to Athens that hasn't been there in many, many years. I never thought I'd see a full + stadium for the Spring game and he did a phenomenal job of recruiting for not even his first season.

I've seen many, many posts on this board saying the the East is a done deal and that UT is the East Champions. That due to potential We'll see about that and we'll see about Smart. All are unknowns until it happens.

 

[volnpowell]

Wrong, taking the position that "Georgia will never amount to anything" is trolling, at the least its
just a statement of ignorance. And I'm not saying Smart will duplicate Alabama's success, just the program.
Odds are good that team will be successful, anybody that thinks otherwise is just in denial.

First off, do you not think he may have his own ideas of how he wants to do things.

Second, how many coaches have worked with Saban, yet did not have success. Worked well for Dooley right?

Third, people said same thing about Charlie Weis, he worked under best NFL coach... what success did he have again? There have been numerous OC and DC coaches that worked under great head coaches but did not have their own success.

Could Smart do well, sure. My problem with you is you are certain of it and you are scared. There is enough talent in Georgia and surrounding states to go around anyways.

 

[UGADawg4Life]

First off, do you not think he may have his own ideas of how he wants to do things.

Second, how many coaches have worked with Saban, yet did not have success. Worked well for Dooley right?

Third, people said same thing about Charlie Weis, he worked under best NFL coach... what success did he have again? There have been numerous OC and DC coaches that worked under great head coaches but did not have their own success.

Could Smart do well, sure. My problem with you is you are certain of it and you are scared. There is enough talent in Georgia and surrounding states to go around anyways.

There's more excitement in Athens than I've seen in many, may years. When you add a very bright, energetic, and talented HC, an excited and hungry fan base, and a very talent rich school, you have components for great success. No one's "scared", we're excited. And we have every reason to be.

 

[volnpowell]

There's more excitement in Athens than I've seen in many, may years. When you add a very bright, energetic, and talented HC, an excited and hungry fan base, and a very talent rich school, you have components for great success. No one's "scared", we're excited. And we have every reason to be.

Hoptown is scared!!!

 

[BowlBrother85]

There's more excitement in Athens than I've seen in many, may years. When you add a very bright, energetic, and talented HC, an excited and hungry fan base, and a very talent rich school, you have components for great success. No one's "scared", we're excited. And we have every reason to be.

I'm sorry but you don't know that yet. How can you call someone 'a talented HC' who has never actually been an HC? Every team's fan base gets a boost of interest and excitement from a coaching change (especially after having the same coach for 15 years) and there is nothing that you've written that couldn't also have been applied to Florida in 2011 under Muschamp and Tennessee in 2009 under Kiffin.

 

[joevol33]

There's more excitement in Athens than I've seen in many, may years. When you add a very bright, energetic, and talented HC, an excited and hungry fan base, and a very talent rich school, you have components for great success. No one's "scared", we're excited. And we have every reason to be.

I understand being excited, I really do, but I don't get how that equals or has any outcome on a teams success. All my dawg friends are saying this about the excitement, and how having 93,000 at the spring game means something special is gonna happen. Just cause a fan feels a certain way, doesn't mean it'll make the team great. I was excited about the Oklahoma and Florida games last year, as was many others, but it didn't help. Smart may end up being a great coach, and I know the big crowd may sway a few recruits, but I don't think they're gonna dominate the sec like some of my friends do all because the fans are excited.

 

[BowlBrother85]

I understand being excited, I really do, but I don't get how that equals or has any outcome on a teams success. All my dawg friends are saying this about the excitement, and how having 93,000 at the spring game means something special is gonna happen. Just cause a fan feels a certain way, doesn't mean it'll make the team great. I was excited about the Oklahoma and Florida games last year, as was many others, but it didn't help. Smart may end up being a great coach, and I know the big crowd may sway a few recruits, but I don't think they're gonna dominate the sec like some of my friends do all because the fans are excited.

Exactly. You know what it is? Kirby Smart won't necessarily make a better head coach than Mark Richt but as of right now he has the advantage of that "new car smell". On October 1st, Tennessee is going carjacking in Athens and taking a big fart on the driver's side while they're at it. How will Kirby smell then?

 

[volfanhill]

There's more excitement in Athens than I've seen in many, may years. When you add a very bright, energetic, and talented HC, an excited and hungry fan base, and a very talent rich school, you have components for great success. No one's "scared", we're excited. And we have every reason to be.

How do you know he is a bright and talented HC? He hasn't won a game yet.

 

[joevol33]

Exactly. You know what it is? Kirby Smart won't necessarily make a better head coach than Mark Richt but as of right now he has the advantage of that "new car smell". On October 1st, Tennessee is going carjacking in Athens and taking a big fart on the driver's side while they're at it. How will Kirby smell then?

Haha, I like the carjacking reference. I'm gonna use it right now with these dawg fans at work!

 

[HoptownVol]

First off, do you not think he may have his own ideas of how he wants to do things.

Second, how many coaches have worked with Saban, yet did not have success. Worked well for Dooley right?

Third, people said same thing about Charlie Weis, he worked under best NFL coach... what success did he have again? There have been numerous OC and DC coaches that worked under great head coaches but did not have their own success.

Could Smart do well, sure. My problem with you is you are certain of it and you are scared. There is enough talent in Georgia and surrounding states to go around anyways.

You people are in denial. And I'm not afraid of Georgia, but all Smart has to do to dominate
UT is to replicate what Mark Fulmer Richt did, and he was 10-5 against us.

Very bad analogy about Weis, stupid actually.

 

[volnpowell]

You people are in denial. And I'm not afraid of Georgia, but all Smart has to do to dominate
UT is to replicate what Mark Fulmer Richt did, and he was 10-5 against us.

Very bad analogy about Weis, stupid actually.

I try to be respectful ( I know sometimes I cross line too), but stupid... really? I did not limit it to Weiss anyways, I said at end of sentence there have been numerous OC and DC coaches that worked under great head coaches that did not succeed as head coach. Is that not fair point? I also said Smart could do well you just seem so certain of it and you jumbled your sentence on Fulmer or what every trying to say, but only time in recent years they have won significant more games against us is during last 10 years... you know probably the worst in Tn history. So kind of on curve on that. I believe we actually have slight overall lead on W to L.

 

[NashVol11]

I try to be respectful ( I know sometimes I cross line too), but stupid... really? I did not limit it to Weiss anyways, I said at end of sentence there have been numerous OC and DC coaches that worked under great head coaches that did not succeed as head coach. Is that not fair point? I also said Smart could do well you just seem so certain of it and you jumbled your sentence on Fulmer or what every trying to say, but only time in recent years they have won significant more games against us is during last 10 years... you know probably the worst in Tn history. So kind of on curve on that. I believe we actually have slight overall lead on W to L.

It was a fair point. Normally Hoptown mixes his insults with salient points, but since he's totally wrong on this one, he has nothing left to say but "you're stupid."

 

[NashVol11]

Hiring a head coach who has never been a head coach is a risk. I'm not sure why that's even debatable. No one is saying Smart is 100% going to fail as a head coach, but he is a risk.

Lots of coordinators have sucked as head coaches. Lots of "really good" coordinators, and championship-winning coordinators, and coordinators who learned under Saban or Belichick or whoever else, have still sucked as head coaches. It's a risk.

 

[HoptownVol]

It was a fair point. Normally Hoptown mixes his insults with salient points, but since he's totally wrong on this one, he has nothing left to say but "you're stupid."

No I said his point was stupid. Now you tell me if this makes any sense.

"Charlie Weis left the Pats for ND and failed, therefore Kirby Smart leaving Alabama for UGA = Fail"

See, I told you it didn't make any sense.

Everybody is banking on Smart laying an egg simply because of the Muschamp experience. Mark
Richt was moderately successful at Georgia, but alas much to my chagrin he was fired, because of
repeated failures. However, his 10-5 record against UT means all Smart has to do with all that
talent is simply do as well as Richt did and he still dominates the UT series.

I dont know whats going to happen with Georgia this year, they sent 8 to the Combine and have
to replace most of their front 7 on Defense. And I never said "Kirby Smart will be successful" at
UGA, I said there's no reason to believe he wont be successful.

 

[Dragon18]

No I said his point was stupid. Now you tell me if this makes any sense.

"Charlie Weis left the Pats for ND and failed, therefore Kirby Smart leaving Alabama for UGA = Fail"

See, I told you it didn't make any sense.

Everybody is banking on Smart laying an egg simply because of the Muschamp experience. Mark
Richt was moderately successful at Georgia, but alas much to my chagrin he was fired, because of
repeated failures. However, his 10-5 record against UT means all Smart has to do with all that
talent is simply do as well as Richt did and he still dominates the UT series.

I dont know whats going to happen with Georgia this year, they sent 8 to the Combine and have
to replace most of their front 7 on Defense. And I never said "Kirby Smart will be successful" at
UGA, I said there's no reason to believe he wont be successful.

Do you even take time to reflect on what you post or even go back to read them to see if your thoughts are consistent? It surely doesn't appear that you do.

 

[volnpowell]

Do you even take time to reflect on what you post or even go back to read them to see if your thoughts are consistent? It surely doesn't appear that you do.

Thought same thing

 

[volnpowell]

No I said his point was stupid. Now you tell me if this makes any sense.

"Charlie Weis left the Pats for ND and failed, therefore Kirby Smart leaving Alabama for UGA = Fail"

See, I told you it didn't make any sense.

Everybody is banking on Smart laying an egg simply because of the Muschamp experience. Mark
Richt was moderately successful at Georgia, but alas much to my chagrin he was fired, because of
repeated failures. However, his 10-5 record against UT means all Smart has to do with all that
talent is simply do as well as Richt did and he still dominates the UT series.

I dont know whats going to happen with Georgia this year, they sent 8 to the Combine and have
to replace most of their front 7 on Defense. And I never said "Kirby Smart will be successful" at
UGA, I said there's no reason to believe he wont be successful.

Let me tell you what makes no sense...you.
You think Smart will almost certainly succeed because of three reasons
First he coached under Saban
Second the talent in Georgia.
Third Richt went 10- 5 against

The Charlie Weis comparison was ONE, I repeat ONE of many comparisons I could give and that is why I said many OC and DC coaches that have worked under great coaches have failed so that is just saying Smart does is not an automatic success. You know Dooley worked under Saban right? Also I said Smart might probably has his own ways of doing things, not just copy Saban. Plus it is not as easy as you would thing to copy someone even if wanted to, because personality/the way you relate and communicate can be so different.

On point of talent if sooo easy why Tennessee have lead on overall record slight as it may be? They have had talent in Georgia for quite some time you know.

What makes no sense is your comparison of Richt going 10-5 against us. Hello, that was during our worst years in TENNESSEE HISTORY!!!

And saying no reason to think he would not be successful and will be successful is really splitting hairs imo.

Again I repeat I nobody knows if he will succeed, but saying "there is no reason to believe he will not succeed" is ridiculous imo.

 

[HoptownVol]

Do you even take time to reflect on what you post or even go back to read them to see if your thoughts are consistent? It surely doesn't appear that you do.

Feel free to post all the "inconsistencies." Good luck.

Many of you could use a course in basic comprehension it seems.