smokeyman15
The Gamecock Slayer
- Joined
- Jun 19, 2005
- Messages
- 4,501
- Likes
- 92
Originally posted by smokedog#3@Nov 3, 2005 9:47 PM
i was watching the louisville/PItt game and listened to mark may say it was almost all the coaches fault and we have been sliding down the sec for 3 years. there is plenty of blame to go around, to me the play calling stinks, when we have a chance to make a play we don't, the team has no confidence they look confused, QB situation has ruined the team this year and is the coaches fault. but the players haven't helped things along, fumbling, dropping balls, interceptions, the offense is a boring joke and that is the coaches fault. even if we make some plays, don't fumble we are 4-3 maybe 5-2 at best. we can all make excuses, if you want to look at it that way alabama's QB missed two sure touchdown passes that he overthrew. if you don't win games they are not going to punish the players they are going to fire the coaches they get paid the big bucks. they get paid to win games and make the university money.
[snapback]181590[/snapback]
Originally posted by holdemvol@Nov 3, 2005 4:29 PM
Have you been in the locker room? How about team meetings?...No one on this site has any Idea what any of the coaches have done or not done to try to fix the offensive problems, it is all speculation...Do you honestly believe the coaching staff has not done everything they can to get these kids to execute?
[snapback]181320[/snapback]
Originally posted by Jmxvol@Nov 3, 2005 3:59 PM
If it's one or two players repeatedly screwing up then it's their own fault and they are just bad apples....but when it's happening at every position every week, it's a sign of an undisciplined, poorly coached team.[snapback]181361[/snapback]
Originally posted by Vol-In-Bama@Nov 3, 2005 4:13 PM
There is, as I have said before, plenty of blame to go around... The players do need to step up and be leaders.
[snapback]181304[/snapback]
Originally posted by holdemvol@Nov 3, 2005 5:31 PM
Another part of that is Clausen's tendency to check down every time a deep route is called.[snapback]181478[/snapback]
Originally posted by Liper@Nov 3, 2005 10:35 PM
Well, if all of the above represent necessary involvement to evaluate our staff and team, it also stands to reason that you have no basis for defending for them. Defenders of the staff/blame the players camp isn't in those meeting either.
It's clear that players have to make plays. That's why we all fight like heck to get the best players.
But great talent and a great tradition cannot make up for bad coaching.
FL couldn't win before or after Spurrier, even though they have the "dream resources."
GA couldn't win before Richt, even though they had great talent, a great recruiting base, etc.
USC hasn't won in 25 years until Carroll got there.
If coaching didn't matter, we wouldn't care who the coaches were; and there wouldn't be good coaches worth defending, i.e. Fulmer & Co.
[snapback]181644[/snapback]
Originally posted by VolsWinRLose@Nov 3, 2005 10:47 PM
Um...maybe I'm dim, but how do we know that RC is checking down on "deep route"? It appears to me that we check down (RC & EA) on one out of every 2 plays regardless of field position or down.
I'd have thought that his tendency to check out of a called play this often would have resulted in his being benched, especially when he so often checks into one of 3 plays.
[snapback]181653[/snapback]
Originally posted by JennVols@Nov 3, 2005 4:12 PM
Kirk is right. There is only so much a coach can do and then it's up to the players. A lot of the players haven't done what was expected of them this year.
[snapback]181301[/snapback]
Originally posted by wncvolfan@Nov 4, 2005 7:30 PM
Just a question, not a judgement. Does the coach have to keep playing guys who don't produce or does he drop them down on the depth chart and give the pine riders a shot at stardom? Ex: Cooter. In business, the sub-ordinates who don't produce get demoted or fired. And hasn't been stated here before that Division I football is biog business?
[snapback]182077[/snapback]
Originally posted by holdemvol@Nov 4, 2005 7:34 PM
I don't think Cooter would be an upgrade even as bad as UT's QB play has been. I would, however like to see Hannon benched and get a couple freshman some reps. Hannon's effort has been pathetic.
[snapback]182081[/snapback]
Originally posted by wncvolfan@Nov 4, 2005 7:40 PM
I guess we'll never know, will we. To my knowledge, Cooter hasn't played a down this year.
[snapback]182084[/snapback]
Originally posted by holdemvol@Nov 4, 2005 7:49 PM
We probably won't know, and I don't claim to know what his ability is. We do know, however, that last year Fulmer let 2 freshman come in and win the QB position over a JR. and a SR. so I think it is safe to say that they are all given an opportunity to win the job in practice.
[snapback]182086[/snapback]
Originally posted by holdemvol@Nov 4, 2005 5:50 PM
By checking down I do not mean checking off the play at the line, I mean constantly dumping the ball off to his safety valve.
[snapback]182037[/snapback]
Originally posted by VolsWinRLose@Nov 5, 2005 12:10 AM
My bad. But having seen EA do the same, I have always assumed it was actually the called play.
[snapback]182216[/snapback]
Originally posted by RockyTopEmpire@Nov 5, 2005 8:09 AM
You will be contacted soon. Look for the midget by the oak tree in the west side of the park. Clap twice. He will know what to do :ninja:
[snapback]182278[/snapback]