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NashVol11 said:
When some of the worst atrocities in recent memory happen on your watch, weird to get defensive like VFH did when anyone points that out 🤷🏾‍♂️ if you want to absolve him of all responsibility you’re welcome to
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Might want to re-read my post, because I said nothing about absolution. i am pointing out using the example of FDR, whom I dislike for a number of reasons, should not be judged in totality by a single event and the over simplistic placing of all the responsibility on someone whose contribution was advice. He could no more order such actions than you or I could.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
So whataboutism….which is what you live for, is only a problem when it slaps you in the face?
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Trying whataboutism, failing and then saying the failure was actually “slapping me in the face” and that I “live for whataboutism,” both based on absolutely nothing, might fool some people I guess
 
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And do you see the difference in a president and an advisor in relation to the accountability of the alleged crime?
 
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GroverCleveland said:
Might want to re-read my post, because I said nothing about absolution. i am pointing out using the example of FDR, whom I dislike for a number of reasons, should not be judged in totality by a single event and the over simplistic placing of all the responsibility on someone whose contribution was advice. He could no more order such actions than you or I could.
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She can’t read, process, and answer a question.
 
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NashVol11 said:
Trying whataboutism, failing and then saying the failure was actually “slapping me in the face” and that I “live for whataboutism,” both based on absolutely nothing, might fool some people I guess
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So what other crimes do you want president Obama prosecuted for?
 
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GroverCleveland said:
Might want to re-read my post, because I said nothing about absolution. i am pointing out using the example of FDR, whom I dislike for a number of reasons, should not be judged in totality by a single event and the over simplistic placing of all the responsibility on someone whose contribution was advice. He could no more order such actions than you or I could.
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And I said nothing about the bolded. Sounds like you agree with me that he bears some level of responsibility for the many atrocities that happened on his watch
 
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In a just world he would have been convicted at trial. Or even seen a trial. He will get no RIP, more likely BIH. He chose to make humanity itself his enemy in his later life. He was the Johnny Appleseed of NWO/Deepstate corruption.
 
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I dont get why he was consideed successful or esteemed. His pillars of FP were and still are massive failures for most part. The opening of China has to be one of the most strategic errors in American FP history.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
So whataboutism….which is what you live for, is only a problem when it slaps you in the face?

Tell me more about your stance on President Obama. What other crimes against humanity do you think we should prosecute him for?
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That tan suit he trotted out in comes to mind.
 
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NashVol11 said:
And I said nothing about the bolded. Sounds like you agree with me that he bears some level of responsibility for the many atrocities that happened on his watch
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“Carpet bombing civilians in Cambodia was actually what’s best; after all, look how long he stayed politically active” is a bad argument
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Continuity is not your strong suit is it?

However, since you have moved off of condemning his entire body of work for actions in Cambodia, I will answer the question. Yes, the Administration deserved and received plenty of criticism and condemnation following. I was reading contemporary accounts of it in Time and watching news shows. Have read several historical accounts of those times, although I willingly admit those readings are now years in the past. What I do recall is B-52s were used to expand on what had been up until that time tactical bombing efforts directed again NVA and other groups using Cambodia as bases for supply and to launch attacks into South Vietnam. The attacks were directed against rural areas of SE Cambodia mostly.

So, may I ask what your position is on the "strategic" bombing of German and Japanese cities in WWII? What public figures are you ready to judge and condemn about that. Yes, this is whataboutism to determine if you are a real idealogue or a hypocrite.
 
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