Knoxville wants to suspend alcohol sales at Neyland

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Won’t happen. I know I’m in the minority, but I’m not a fan of alcohol sales at games. Roast away, but there’s nothing more aggravating than seeing a mom and dad with little ones at the game…..and the mom and dad are killing beers. Just promotes poor behavior and driving under the influence.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
Feel like I'm in the politics forum for a bit. Reading and nuance is your friend...

KNOXVILLE, Tenn. — The City of Knoxville wants to suspend the beer license for the vendor of Neyland Stadium, according to a non-compliance complaint.
"The City of Knoxville has requested that your beer permit be suspended or revoked at a public hearing," it wrote in a formal notice to Aramark. "At this hearing, the City intends to present evidence to support the City’s request that the permit be suspended for a period of not less than sixty (60) days and that the Permittee pay a fine of no less than $1,500 per violation, for a total of $4,500."

Documents show three Aramark employees were cited for serving alcohol to underage minor informants at the games against Florida, Alabama and Akron.
"When someone has three infractions of non-compliance, they have to go for a revocation/suspension hearing," said councilman Tommy Smith. "Aramark has made significant changes to their operation every week of the game, so it's not as if they're just neglecting to change anything."

For the 2022 season, Aramark said the company introduced identification scanners to better adhere to state and local laws.

It said the signal with those scanners was interrupted during the Florida game, which required its servers to revert back to manually checking IDs.

"These citations have taught Aramark a valuable lesson – if servers do not adhere to their training, then Aramark’s Plan does not work to its full capability, no matter how sophisticated Aramark’s Plan," Aramark wrote in response to the city. "Aramark’s Plan to prevent sales of alcohol to underage customers at Neyland Stadium is largely effective, but for two unfortunate instances of human error."

Councilwoman Seema Singh said she believes they need to look at additional ways of enforcing compliance efforts.

"This isn't a restaurant or a bar — this is a small city forming that wants to purchase beer," she said. "I've had a lot of concerns right from the beginning of selling that much beer to that many people in such a short period of time."

Not to bring politics outside of the degenerate forum some of us hang out in, but this would lead me to not vote for Councilwoman Singh.
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T-shirts with a sketch of Neyland Stadium with the text "A small city that wants to purchase beer" would be nifty...
 
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I also read where the NCAA proposes schools take steps to prevent fans from rushing on the field in response to the BAMA players were hitting Vol fans. We knew this was coming. Not sure how the would do it>>> razor wire fence? armed guards ?
 
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zeppelin128 said:
Apparently mistakes happened three times, so that is enough to draw the ire of local government. Pretty impressive honestly that they only have three screw-ups given the hundreds of thousands that attended games this year.
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Unless they were 3 for 3 in attempts to test THE VENDOR. Need to know how many failed attempts were experienced.

Seems like a lot of over reaction to me. Did I miss ANY indication to permanently end sales in the stadium or just punish the current vendor for breaking the law?
 
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GUNTERSVOL said:
Unless they were 3 for 3 in attempts to test THE VENDOR. Need to know how many failed attempts were experienced.

Seems like a lot of over reaction to me. Did I miss ANY indication to permanently end sales in the stadium or just punish the current vendor for breaking the law?
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I mean this is stupid ********. And a complete over-reaction.
 
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They can’t prove it was alcohol purchased at the stadium that caused a problem. I’ve seen several liquor bottles in the bathrooms people sneak in and fill their “cokes” with and let’s not even talk about tailgating lol.

They aren’t stopping alcohol sales in the stadium
 
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jim pique said:
The only time bootleggers and Baptist preachers are in agreement is voting on whether to be dry county or wet.If you can remember in the 60's at UT,you had to go to Oak Ridge to by beer,or go to the "woodshed"on Ashville hwy or the lumberyard on Alcoa hwy.But,do not get ouy of your car,or thejunkyard dawgs will eat you up.Not referring at all to the ice in the doghouse dawgs.
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The political history of alcohol in East Tennessee is a fascinating one.

First heard about liquor raids on Deane Hill and Cherokee Country Clubs from my dad, who was a freshman in ‘61.

The Great Raid: Mocking Knox County’s Mid-Century Liquor Laws - The Knoxville Mercury
 
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Sara Clark said:
"Knoxville wants to suspend alcohol sales at Neyland". Isn't this slightly misleading? They want to suspend license of vendor....
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RIGHT.

I’m pretty certain they love the tax revenue. Let’s be honest though, there’s no way to sell beer in that stadium to only those over 21 with 80% success, let alone 100%.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
That is even worse honestly. That means someone was trying to trip these folks up. My response rhymes with "tuck" and "ahem".
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Sometimes they are pretty dirty about it. I remember when I was at UT, there was a bar that was carding everyone going in and they were very strict about it that night. No one under 21 was getting in. KPD cadets tried and were denied at the door because they weren’t 21. So they found a side door that was being used as an exit only, waited for it to open and then snuck in. After that they were able to purchase a beer and got several people in trouble. It was shady and incredibly dishonest.
 
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davethevol said:
Sometimes they are pretty dirty about it. I remember when I was at UT, there was a bar that was carding everyone going in and they were very strict about it that night. No one under 21 was getting in. KPD cadets tried and were denied at the door because they weren’t 21. So they found a side door that was being used as an exit only, waited for it to open and then snuck in. After that they were able to purchase a beer and got several people in trouble. It was shady and incredibly dishonest.
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This shouldn't be an issue at all. If you can be drafted, you should be able to drink. Period. That is it, full stop.
 
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This is the biggest Oxymoron one can image.

The KPD didn't even arrest an intoxicated individual who went into the wrong apartment causing a total disruption in the system for a month. Still Pending.

In Contrast, out of a pool of 600,000 fans (6 Home Games) they cite 3 incidents and they want to pull Alcohol Sales.

Government Stupidity. City makes $$$$$ off of this and yes selling to underage minors has it problems but what can you do if a fake ID is presented.
 
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This is awesome. Thanks for sharing. Substances are a funny thing. They need some regulation because they can ruin lives, but if you take them completely away, it tends to also ruin lives.

Micheal Pollan has a great take on substance use IMO. There are benefits. Let’s focus on those so that we can get the best from them and limit the worst.
 
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I've seen several liquor bottles in the bathrooms from folks who turn their overpriced $4 cokes, into $4 underpriced Jack and Cokes.
 
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As usual the media runs with a misleading headline and all the Facebook yokels run with it. They are looking at suspending a vendor not “getting rid of alcohol sales in Neyland Stadium”. Relax
 
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Good2bavol said:
I was in school there in 1975 to 1980 (don't ask), and there was plenty of Liquor in the stands then. Selling beer helps to temper the fall down drunks from hard liquor. And I have a bottle of mustard to prove it!
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My Dad started taking me to games in the late 70’s. I would carry a bottle of Jack in my jacket pocket, because they would never check a kid.
 
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People need to chill out, no system this large, with this many people, with motivated informants and cops, will ever produce perfect results. I would bet a hundred that every stadium in America at absolute capacity, with over 60k in the stands would have such a violation every single week, if it were rigidly enforced. With over a 100k, it's a near certainty. This my friends, is a SETUP!
 
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