Kudos To Wes Rucker.

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#51
I've also heard that Dickey basically arranged it with C.M Newton to where they could turn the Tommy Bowl into Rupp South.
He certainly had no qualms about putting UK product in the merchandise stands when they came to Knoxville.
 
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#53
Is Darryl Dickey the best contribution that Doug Dickey made to UT?

I was not alive when Doug was the UT coach, but I do know he left UT for the Florida job.
 
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Don't kid yourself. If RC, Dickey, and Hamilton are all from the same pool of candidates, RC is still going last every time.

Lucky for you guys, RC will be retiring in 2012 with Raines right there too. On the bright side, no matter who you hire, they can't really do much worse than the current establishment.

Not so fast...RC's current contract is up at the end of 2012. He has mentioned it several times but not once has he said he will retire or plans on it. RC is not the problem. Shirley Raines is the problem with athletics and the Ath. Office. They couldnt find their a$$ with their own two hands.
 
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if this is true, i had no idea dickey was such a problem.....how did don devoe fit into all of this?
 
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I never liked Dickey and didnt know why until now.I guess his parents got the Dick part right.
 
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Dickey was always pissed that UT fans embraced Mears more warmly than him when they were both here. That's why he always treated basketball like a second class citizen. He was hellbent to make sure no UT football coach was ever less popular than the basketball coach again.
I'm a bit surprised by that, to be honest. Dickey improved the football team and won one of the schools claimed national titles, even though I'm not sure how big of a deal a Litkenhous title was.
 
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I'll take Pearl.
Hat may have a deep seated hatred for Pearl for all his lying, womanizing ways but he confirms my suspicions that hat knows who is the better coach. I said COACH, not person. I've been snakebit by so many poor hires that I'm at least willing to wait and see how bad or good things turn out. I wouldn't want too, but we made wind up having to turn Pearl loose.
:crossfingers:
 
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I'm a bit surprised by that, to be honest. Dickey improved the football team and won one of the schools claimed national titles, even though I'm not sure how big of a deal a Litkenhous title was.
If you were around for the Dickey years you wouldn't be surprised. I despised Dickey for his treatment of our basketball program as much as hat despises Pearl.:frown:
 
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If you were around for the Dickey years you wouldn't be surprised. I despised Dickey for his treatment of our basketball program as much as hat despises Pearl.:frown:
I'm talking about Dickey's tenure as a football coach. I'm not sure how many on here can remember that, but I would have thought Dickey would have been popular.
 
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I'm talking about Dickey's tenure as a football coach. I'm not sure how many on here can remember that, but I would have thought Dickey would have been popular.
By all accounts of people who were there, Dickey was immensely respected for reviving the football program. Mears was beloved. Period. There's a big difference.
 
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By all accounts of people who were there, Dickey was immensely respected for reviving the football program. Mears was beloved. Period. There's a big difference.
I understand the difference, I just feel like that even if Pearl didn't have the NCAA issues against him, a football coach that could come in and win a couple conference titles would be praised much more in Knoxville. Just my opinion, though. I could be wrong about that, and the attitudes towards the sports may be different than they were 40+ years ago.
 
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By all accounts of people who were there, Dickey was immensely respected for reviving the football program. Mears was beloved. Period. There's a big difference.
Dickey's personality wouldn't allow him to be beloved. He had a major impact on the football and the basketball programs,only in opposite directions. He was a football first man and made it a priority to drive the basketball program into obscurity. Pearl and Hamilton have brought it out of obscurity. I've said for years that if emphasis had been placed on basketball, i.e, facilities updates on TBA, we could be a first class football and basketball school. We were on our way when all this mess came up. Oh well! Wait and see.:rolleyes:
 
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By all accounts of people who were there, Dickey was immensely respected for reviving the football program. Mears was beloved. Period. There's a big difference.

I assume this for three reasons:

1) Dickey left UT for Florida.

2) Dickey wasn't Neyland, and there were still a lot of Neyland fans.

3) Mears was the best basketball coach we ever had at the point, and made the program relevant, while Dickey was just continuing success.
 
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By all accounts of people who were there, Dickey was immensely respected for reviving the football program. Mears was beloved. Period. There's a big difference.

Are you ok Hat? My how a final 8 changes things!

Anyway, I was young then, but I think the Dickey leaving for his dream school was something that was very similar to Kiffin leaving. Many people never could let it go. I think he was becoming a legend until that happened.

I never felt he hated the basketball program - maybe just was a little disinterested - but I will trust eye-witness accounts to my view from afar.
 
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I never liked Dickey as a coach or AD, didn't care for Woodruff either. This about says it all about Dickey and Woodruff.

Dickey was born in Vermillion, South Dakota in 1932,[1] and grew up in Gainesville, Florida, where his father was a speech professor at the University of Florida.[2] After graduating from P.K. Yonge High School in Gainesville, he attended the University of Florida and played football for coach Bob Woodruff's Florida Gators football team from 1951 to 1953. Dickey began his college career as a defensive back, but remarkably made the switch to quarterback after Haywood Sullivan's early departure for the Boston Red Sox left the Gators without a starting quarterback in 1952.[3

Dickey was hired as head coach at the University of Tennessee in 1964 by athletic director Bob Woodruff, Dickey's head coach during his playing years at Florida.

In 1969, the Volunteers clinched their second SEC championship and were invited to play Florida in the Gator Bowl.[2] Rumors swirled that Dickey was planning to return to his alma mater, and replace retiring Ray Graves as head coach.[10] Tennessee lost the game 14–13, and Dickey left for Gainesville


Doug Dickey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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By all accounts of people who were there, Dickey was immensely respected for reviving the football program. Mears was beloved. Period. There's a big difference.

Not so fast, my friend. Mears wasn't half the coach that you lead people to believe. He won one SEC championships and tied for two more in an era when only two school in the SEC actually played competetive roundball (UT and Kentucky). The few times he made it to the NCAA tourney his team was bounced out in the first ro or second round.

Hypomanic Ray was the coach when I was at UT, playing in Stokley, running his slowdown offense scoring forty points a game with Billy Hahn holding the ball for a minute at a time at the top of the circle, with half of the student body booing.

Conversely, Doug Dickey was the best coach, IMO, post General Neyland to present. He won two SEC championships and national championship in just six years at the helm at a time when B. Bryant,S. Jordan and V. Dooley were competing coaches. Not to mention the paradigm shift of changing from a single wing to the T formation when he arrived. The talent level was every bit as low as when Derek Dooley came in.

I have no argument that the hires of Buzz and O'Neil were terrible, but I have never faulted him for hiring native son Wade Houston, who should have been recruited to play at Tennessee in the first place. Also UT was under pressure from Lamar Alexander to hire Wade Houston.
 
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Pardon my ignorance, but were there/have there been rumblings or accusations that Dickey may have thrown the game? (As best he could try)
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Pardon my ignorance, but were there/have there been rumblings or accusations that Dickey may have thrown the game? (As best he could try)
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I always thought he threw that game. I know insiders have said it wasn't true, but he always seemed like a sleaze to me. I never understood why UT had two ADs in a row from Florida. Come on talk about a conflict of interest.
 
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Not so fast, my friend. Mears wasn't half the coach that you lead people to believe. He won one SEC championships and tied for two more in an era when only two school in the SEC actually played competetive roundball (UT and Kentucky). The few times he made it to the NCAA tourney his team was bounced out in the first ro or second round.

Hypomanic Ray was the coach when I was at UT, playing in Stokley, running his slowdown offense scoring forty points a game with Jimmy Hahn holding the ball for a minute at a time at the top of the circle, with half of the student body booing.

Conversely, Doug Dickey was the best coach, IMO, post General Neyland to present. He won two SEC championships and national championship in just six years at the helm at a time when B. Bryant,S. Jordan and V. Dooley were competing coaches. Not to mention the paradigm shift of changing from a single wing to the T formation when he arrived. The talent level was every bit as low as when Derek Dooley came in.

I have no argument that the hires of Buzz and O'Neil were terrible, but I have never faulted him for hiring native son Wade Houston, who should have been recruited to play at Tennessee in the first place. Also UT was under pressure from Lamar Alexander to hire Wade Houston.
Yeah, why fault him for hiring one of the five worst coaches, inclusive of all sports, in the history of the SEC?
 
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#75
Not so fast...RC's current contract is up at the end of 2012. He has mentioned it several times but not once has he said he will retire or plans on it. RC is not the problem. Shirley Raines is the problem with athletics and the Ath. Office. They couldnt find their a$$ with their own two hands.

The are both the problem, IMO. The plan is for RC to finish out the remainder of his contract and retire. My assumption is that he will announce it sometime in the the Summer 2011. That will give them plenty of time to bring in the new person. The only issue there is that Raines will still be involved in the new hire. her contract runs out within a year of RC's IIRC. I expect that that will be the end of the line for her as well.

The worst case scenario is that Memphis continues their tradition of Athletic Department inbreeding and hires someone already associated with the program. Teh best case scenario, is that you hire a solid AD who comes in and makes his first priority to clean house with those around the program that are simply there now to collect a check and add no value to the AD.
 

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