‘23 KY CB Cristian Conyer (Tennessee transfer)

#251
#251
allvolrecruiting said:
People should care more about the film and what they could add to UT instead of the ratings but it's easier to look at 247 than watch an 11 minute highlight video and make their own unbiased opinion and everyone wants to take the easy route
Click to expand...

Those highlight films basically all look the same to me so they’re pretty much useless to me. And from some of the comments made by people on here, I’m not really sure they’re much better at evaluating than I am.
 
  • Like
Reactions: barrylee
#252
#252
JO VOL said:
He’s not a good coach. How he’s had the longevity he’s had is truly amazing. He got luck with a few players. He’s the coach most likely to be replaced first.
Click to expand...
Martinez?!? Lmao

He had really good stats under his time with Butch and just improved "Guru Pruitt's" secondary numbers from sub 100s to top 50...in...one...year.

Edit: and like others have said, he's sent a boatload of guys to the league, even out of UCF!
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: memtownvol, Govolsman98, VolByLaw and 6 others
#253
#253
Devo182 said:
Martinez?!? Lmao

He had good really stats under his time with Butch and just improved "Guru Pruitt's" secondary numbers from sub 100s to top 50...in...one...year.

Edit: and like others have said, he's sent a boatload of guys to the league, even out of UCF!
Click to expand...
Wasn’t a fan of his return but unlike others who pull the “hope I’m wrong” card, I’m ecstatic if proven so…and this one is looking good so far. 😏
 
  • Like
Reactions: Orange., ThreatLevelOrange, volsfan_17 and 7 others
#254
#254
butchna said:
Wasn’t a fan of his return but unlike others who pull the “hope I’m wrong” card, I’m ecstatic if proven so…and this one is looking good so far. 😏
Click to expand...
I'm with you on that one cause I stated the same but so far I've had to eat my crow.Hey I'll happily own that so far he's earned that right his done a fairly good job.
 
  • Like
Reactions: volsfan_17, Volunteer821 and butchna
#257
#257
allvolrecruiting said:
People should care more about the film and what they could add to UT instead of the ratings but it's easier to look at 247 than watch an 11 minute highlight video and make their own unbiased opinion and everyone wants to take the easy route
Click to expand...
Problem is we as fans don’t get much, if any, access to their bad film. Highlights are great but tell an incomplete story.

It’s a heavily biased and imperfect science, but unfortunately recruiting services/rankings are just about all we have to fill the gaps.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Devo182, Smokey19rt, HeadVol77 and 1 other person
#258
#258
AllVol11717 said:
Problem is we as fans don’t get much, if any, access to their bad film. Highlights are great but tell an incomplete story.

It’s a heavily biased and imperfect science, but unfortunately recruiting services/rankings are just about all we have to fill the gaps.
Click to expand...
100%.

Plus...most of us don't really know what to look for...if we're being honest. We may think we do based off what our pappy taught us...but in reality, compared to modern techniques and considering what a player's job was on every particular play, only but a handful really do. I trust @HankHill and that's about it on here. I trusted JAV on 247, he was an NFL scout, but he hasn't been around much lately.

But your point is huge, regardless. The negatives matter as much as the positives and we'll never see them on a highlight reel.

And then there are massively varying competition levels on top of all the rest.

Jmo I still look at (serious) P5 offers first. Then recruiting rankings...yeah they'll miss on plenty of individuals, just as college staffs and even NFL front offices do all...the...time...but there's a reason the Blue Chip Ratio is a thing...over hundreds or thousands of players each year, they do correlate to success at a very meaningful degree. I would put message board "highlight reel dissection" a distant third. It would mean guys on a message board know more than million dollar college coaching staffs and services...and, even in the rare instances of being true, those people would be hired away immediately by said entities...see: Austin Burlage aka Power_T_Tape.

Fwiw this isn't directed toward anyone, just general thoughts.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: KillaRed54 and AllVol11717
#266
#266
allvolrecruiting said:
People should care more about the film and what they could add to UT instead of the ratings but it's easier to look at 247 than watch an 11 minute highlight video and make their own unbiased opinion and everyone wants to take the easy route
Click to expand...
Conyer’s highlights aren’t very good either. He gets beat A LOT in coverage and gets bailed out by a lot of poorly thrown balls that helps him “recover” and break up passes
 
#273
#273
BelieveTheHeup93 said:
Just watch them without the orange glasses on. There’s a reason his offer list is what it is
Click to expand...
Well, since I don’t know anything about watching film I find I must rely on those whose jobs rely on their evaluations. Have lost faith in 99% of posters. Most are cheerleaders like me even if they did play DB in high school.
 
  • Like
Reactions: lenoxvol, Volstar65, VOLSONLY and 2 others
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.

VN Store



Back
Top