Lady Vols new track coach - unbelievable

#51
#51
You know as we sit here today we can say no rules were broken. No regulations violated. This is big time athletics, this is Tennessee we have more to worry about than this. OR...it's women's athletics. Bottom line is its your University, your reputation....Pat Summit did a lot to keep Tennessee in the limelight(in a good way) for decades. And we all basked in pronouncing them ....Tennessee. Well....this is Tennessee too. Especially to folks outside the state. And recruits, parents, media etc. In the end, coaches and AD's should be held accountable not only to winning...but doing things right. and doing the right thing, is always the right thing.
 
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If Preston Williams girlfriend is gone and PW decommits, I'm going to be pissed.
 
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It's truly baffling since only a couple of weeks ago Alford-Sullivan was interviewed by Hyams and Wilkerson on SportsTalk radio, and she gushed how there was zero attrition during the transition. Nary an athlete left. That's remarkable considering it impacted so many student athletes on the men's and women's sides of the program. What could have been going on in her mind at the time? Or could something have developed in the meantime?
 
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I realize everyone is upset about this but what the coach said is a nice way of saying that she feels those track participants suck....The university is allowing them to finish put the yr of school if they choose but they wouldn't be running no matter what bc the coach didn't think they were good enough. This allows them the option to pursue track opportunities elsewhere or to just be a regular student.
 
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volbeast33 said:
I realize everyone is upset about this but what the coach said is a nice way of saying that she feels those track participants suck....The university is allowing them to finish put the yr of school if they choose but they wouldn't be running no matter what bc the coach didn't think they were good enough. This allows them the option to pursue track opportunities elsewhere or to just be a regular student.
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That doesn't make any sense. Either, one, tell them they aren't good enough prior to coming here. Or, two, actually let them show how good or bad they are in competition. Telling them they are persona non grata two weeks into practice and that they are, basically, a leper to the program after a couple of weeks is just ridiculous and unethical. They are not able to pursue other track opportunities because they are enrolled here and now have to wait up to two years before they can run. It's disgraceful and anything but nice.
 
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volbeast33 said:
I realize everyone is upset about this but what the coach said is a nice way of saying that she feels those track participants suck....The university is allowing them to finish put the yr of school if they choose but they wouldn't be running no matter what bc the coach didn't think they were good enough. This allows them the option to pursue track opportunities elsewhere or to just be a regular student.
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How do you explain the one freshman that the coach offered an 80% scholarship at Penn State only to dismiss her from the team here at UT?
It seems as if we are going to have to agree to disagree in this matter. You aren't going to convince me that what was done makes sense in any way with the argument you keep presenting, and,frankly, I see no to even acknowledge the reasoning of other posters in this matter.

Jim
 
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Looking at the entire situation Hart needs to say you know this coach is not going to work out and let her go cut his losses and move in a different direction immediately.
 
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CannonVol80 said:
How do you explain the one freshman that the coach offered an 80% scholarship at Penn State only to dismiss her from the team here at UT?
It seems as if we are going to have to agree to disagree in this matter. You aren't going to convince me that what was done makes sense in any way with the argument you keep presenting, and,frankly, I see no to even acknowledge the reasoning of other posters in this matter.

Jim
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My daughter plays AAU basketball......it's a cut throat business and I am assuming it gets worse at the college level. My daughter has had to deal with disappointment and kept working and has gotten better and earned her spot now. I understand how upset these parents are but their daughters are only at the college to play a sport. After watching two practices, the Tennessee track coach felt that these six athletes were not on the same level as the rest. It is better to cut your ties, then to have them hang around when she obviously wouldn't allow them to compete.
 
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volbeast33 said:
My daughter plays AAU basketball......it's a cut throat business and I am assuming it gets worse at the college level. My daughter has had to deal with disappointment and kept working and has gotten better and earned her spot now. I understand how upset these parents are but their daughters are only at the college to play a sport. After watching two practices, the Tennessee track coach felt that these six athletes were not on the same level as the rest. It is better to cut your ties, then to have them hang around when she obviously wouldn't allow them to compete.
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Better in what way and for whom? It doesn't free up a scholarship for UT. It obviously doesn't help the girls since the proper way this is done is to let them go after training them for a year, like you agreed to do. They have to restart the whole process and uproot their lives yet again. And this is track for God's sake! The coach knows these girls times when they are recruited. It's not like they get on campus and the coach suddenly discovers they only have one leg. Obviously she can't look at them over the course of two weeks and determine what their potential will be, and their current times were already acceptable.

And it absolutely sinks recruiting since to my knowledge no other track program lures girls onto campus and then reneges on the deal to allow them to be on the team for at least a year after they have already enrolled. No parent or athlete is going to choose a scholarship that might not be honored at UT over one that will be honored somewhere else.

Like I say, no one can explain it. I am just shocked that anyone is even trying to do so. I am not sure what the motivation would be to make what are clearly nonsensical arguments in UT's defense here. I can only assume people aren't reading the thread or aren't thinking things through.

Now I can see if there is some factor I am ignorant of since I don't follow track. Like I posted before maybe she wants to get some other athletes in at mid-term and has a line on them. But outside of something like that it is indefensible. Which is why UT isn't even trying to defend it.
 
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Voluble2 said:
Better in what way and for whom? It doesn't free up a scholarship for UT. It obviously doesn't help the girls since the proper way this is done is to let them go after training them for a year, like you agreed to do. They have to restart the whole process and uproot their lives yet again. And this is track for God's sake! The coach knows these girls times when they are recruited. It's not like they get on campus and the coach suddenly discovers they only have one leg. Obviously she can't look at them over the course of two weeks and determine what their potential will be, and their current times were already acceptable.

And it absolutely sinks recruiting since to my knowledge no other track program lures girls onto campus and then reneges on the deal to allow them to be on the team for at least a year after they have already enrolled. No parent or athlete is going to choose a scholarship that might not be honored at UT over one that will be honored somewhere else.

Like I say, no one can explain it. I am just shocked that anyone is even trying to do so. I am not sure what the motivation would be to make what are clearly nonsensical arguments in UT's defense here. I can only assume people aren't reading the thread or aren't thinking things through.

Now I can see if there is some factor I am ignorant of since I don't follow track. Like I posted before maybe she wants to get some other athletes in at mid-term and has a line on them. But outside of something like that it is indefensible. Which is why UT isn't even trying to defend it.
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If u have any proof that coach cut them bc of a vindictive reason instead of a talent reason, then I will agree with you. Tennessee will never comment on things like this in the media so if you were waiting on that then u will be disappointed. It may hurt recruiting but neither I nor you know that for sure. This track coach has been very successful in the past and her job relies on the decisions she makes. She made one that she feels is best for the track program and has to live with that decision now. I personally, would rather be cut now and find a new school to train at then to train for a yr at a school that doesn't want me.
 
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