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OriginalCoach said:
She’s hanging in there. I don’t know how much longer she will go. If Washington keeps it within 2 runs, I think Tarr will go with her to final out.
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Well Washington has now put up 10 runs wouldn’t Ashley kill for that? Seeing a lot of these multiple run come backs which means you have to have multiple good at bats together. Our hitting was way too much a good at bat here and there doesn’t lead to much multiple run production.
 
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Majors said:
Not if Rogers can’t take it to another level.
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Rogers was ridden too hard in the regular season and put up wet too many times thus injuries that led to not being able to pitch as effectively as she is capable of doing.I said before the season that if a 2nd pitcher that could win games at the SEC level was not developed this team could not go very far in the post season.They appear to sign some very good pitching prospects every year but can not seem to develop them.....or the scout was poor to begin with.Whatever ,there was only one effective pitcher on the squad this year and that is not a recipe for success when you play three or four games in a two day time frame against stiff competition in NCAA tourney.....the algebra does not work health wise.
 
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Their only real chance to win the Regional was to stay in the winners bracket so Ashley could get some rest and recovery time before the finals.

I'm sure its many reasons but the coaching staff has struck out, yes a poor pun, on their evaluation of pitchers the last couple of years or they were pitchers with issues that no one else wanted to take a chance on but Weekly's took a chance on them as it was the best they could get at the time. Something not right.
 
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OrangeBeachVol said:
Their only real chance to win the Regional was to stay in the winners bracket so Ashley could gets some rest and recovery time before the finals.

I'm sure its many reasons but the coaching staff has struck out, yes a poor pun, on their evaluation of pitchers the last couple of years or they were pitchers with issues that no one else wanted to take a chance on but Weekly's took a chance on them as it was the best they could get at the time. Something not right.
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To be seeded 9th and not make it out of your own regional is embarrassing.
 
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alexvol said:
Rogers was ridden too hard in the regular season and put up wet too many times thus injuries that led to not being able to pitch as effectively as she is capable of doing.I said before the season that if a 2nd pitcher that could win games at the SEC level was not developed this team could not go very far in the post season.They appear to sign some very good pitching prospects every year but can not seem to develop them.....or the scout was poor to begin with.Whatever ,there was only one effective pitcher on the squad this year and that is not a recipe for success when you play three or four games in a two day time frame against stiff competition in NCAA tourney.....the algebra does not work health wise.
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We all know the lack of depth behind her and have said as much in regards to the recruiting of pitchers. With that said, it was mentioned in the JMU game in reference to Rogers that "elite pitchers" find a way. I'm a Ashely fan but with all that has gone on with not having a true 2-3 and the finger issue that comment stood out. The day before JMU pitcher threw 160 in extra innings and came out an touched 69MPH all game long, that was taking it to the next level. We go as Rogers goes unfortunately because our offense gets a pass because the focus was shifted to the circle.
 
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alexvol said:
Rogers was ridden too hard in the regular season and put up wet too many times thus injuries that led to not being able to pitch as effectively as she is capable of doing.I said before the season that if a 2nd pitcher that could win games at the SEC level was not developed this team could not go very far in the post season.They appear to sign some very good pitching prospects every year but can not seem to develop them.....or the scout was poor to begin with.Whatever ,there was only one effective pitcher on the squad this year and that is not a recipe for success when you play three or four games in a two day time frame against stiff competition in NCAA tourney.....the algebra does not work health wise.
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All very true. Maybe they can find the pitching equivalent of Ivy Davis in the transfer portal. And there is that six-foot drink of water referred to back a few pages.
 
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Majors said:
We all know the lack of depth behind her and have said as much in regards to the recruiting of pitchers. With that said, it was mentioned in the JMU game in reference to Rogers that "elite pitchers" find a way. I'm a Ashely fan but with all that has gone on with not having a true 2-3 and the finger issue that comment stood out. The day before JMU pitcher threw 160 in extra innings and came out an touched 69MPH all game long, that was taking it to the next level. We go as Rogers goes unfortunately because our offense gets a pass because the focus was shifted to the circle.
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Everyone talks about the finger but she has back issues too. Plus in Karen's press conference she bascially for lack of a better term threw Ashley under the bus. Said they had "rested her in SEC play by only throwing her two games a weekend." She also said the plan was for Ashley to throw every pitch and she didn't do it. Alexander hit the wall on Sunday but their second pitcher stepped in and save it for them in that first game. What Karen didn't mention was the bad errors extending innings and pitches and the offense not being able to get more than two decent at bats back to back so every pitch has stress. In MLB those are called high stress pitches and they take a toll far more than pitch count.
 
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GameTime said:
Guys, did JMU win the local series yesterday? They looked like a real contender.
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Walking out of the first game Saturday a JMU fan was saying she was so excited about beating us that she was not going to be able to sleep. I said to her you all are going to win the regional, she replied are you serious? I said dead serious. They may not beat Missouri but I would not be shocked at all if they did. They have pitching, defense, coaching, and enough offense to beat anyone but the top tier teams that have all that and more.
 
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kregman said:
Everyone talks about the finger but she has back issues too. Plus in Karen's press conference she bascially for lack of a better term threw Ashley under the bus. Said they had "rested her in SEC play by only throwing her two games a weekend." She also said the plan was for Ashley to throw every pitch and she didn't do it. Alexander hit the wall on Sunday but their second pitcher stepped in and save it for them in that first game. What Karen didn't mention was the bad errors extending innings and pitches and the offense not being able to get more than two decent at bats back to back so every pitch has stress. In MLB those are called high stress pitches and they take a toll far more than pitch count.
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I didn't hear to press conference. But what you said, is a little attention to detail on maybe the dynamic of the behind the door issues the team has. Errors are killers and hard to overcome when you're struggling in other areas too.
 
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So Kentucky and Washington came out of the loser's bracket to win their regionals. Kentucky beat ND twice after being run-ruled by them in their Saturday game against them. Washington lost to Michigan on Saturday and beat them twice yesterday to advance.

It's amazing what good coaching and mental toughness will do for a team. Outside of ASU, no seeded team performed as poorly as we did. I would add Duke but they were on the road and shouldn't have been seeded anyway.
 
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volman128 said:
So Kentucky and Washington came out of the loser's bracket to win their regionals. Kentucky beat ND twice after being run-ruled by them in their Saturday game against them. Washington lost to Michigan on Saturday and beat them twice yesterday to advance.

It's amazing what good coaching and mental toughness will do for a team. Outside of ASU, no seeded team performed as poorly as we did. I would add Duke but they were on the road and shouldn't have been seeded anyway.
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Washington has super pitcher Plain but she fell apart one inning and gave up 5 runs but they came back and scored a ton more. You have to step up and help even the best pitchers on offense sometimes.
 
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I don't think Ashley could have done more than she did. She has played through pain, carried this team and left it all on the field. She hasn't been fully healthy in a while and they've had to manage her conditioning to protect her back. Not having relief pitching isn't on her, nor is the lack of run support that has affected the entire bullpen.

Plain and Garcia count on run support and have a #2 behind them. Pat Moore pitched a no-hitter early in the regional, giving Plain a break. If the LVs had pitched Turner and/or Bender as many innings as possible against EKU, Ashley would've been rested for JMU, boosting the odds of keeping us out of the loser's bracket. But you still need timely hitting-- and that's been hit or miss all year.
 
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LA Vol said:
Ashley would've been rested for JMU, boosting the odds of keeping us out of the loser's bracket.
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We only scored one run to JMU to fall into the loser's bracket. And none of their three runs were earned. I don't think it's realistic to expect to shut out your opponent in today's game, especially in the NCAAT. Ashley not being rested really wasn't the reason we fell into the loser's bracket, although it could've come into play later on.
 
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OriginalCoach said:
What?? Surely you jest or you are ignorant of UTs athletic budget. They have the resources. They have the facilities. They aren’t getting it done.
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It's not an excuse because they still have enough to be more productive than they were, but I think you'd be very surprised at where exactly UT stands when it comes to softball facilities in this conference. Both stadium and practice/team facilities. White does need to commit to upgrades to the facility or we'll fall further behind. But that is unrelated to the issues this season.
 
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GameTime said:
What I remember most of the championship games with Abbott pitching, was Ralph having his eyes closes, as if he could not stand to watch what was happening...The TV announcer pointed it out several times....Those games, with Abbott in the circle, were the high water marks of the Weekly's reign here...Seems like a hundred years ago.
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Tennessee was in the championship game again 7 years later in 2013.
 
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DeerPark12 said:
It's not an excuse because they still have enough to be more productive than they were, but I think you'd be very surprised at where exactly UT stands when it comes to softball facilities in this conference. Both stadium and practice/team facilities. White does need to commit to upgrades to the facility or we'll fall further behind. But that is unrelated to the issues this season.
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Everyone calling Liberty mid-major, there is nothing mid-major about their softball facilities. Our stadium is nice but could use more seating. Like everything on campus somewhat land locked but with the money being key capacity could be increased with other things being added. The railroad tracks add charm the sewer plant not so much.
 
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kregman said:
Everyone calling Liberty mid-major, there is nothing mid-major about their softball facilities. Our stadium is nice but could use more seating. Like everything on campus somewhat land locked but with the money being key capacity could be increased with other things being added. The railroad tracks add charm the sewer plant not so much.
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Believe me, the softball program was an afterthought...
 
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kregman said:
Everyone calling Liberty mid-major, there is nothing mid-major about their softball facilities. Our stadium is nice but could use more seating. Like everything on campus somewhat land locked but with the money being key capacity could be increased with other things being added. The railroad tracks add charm the sewer plant not so much.
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I don't know why anyone would think the railroad tracks add charm. I've always hated them being so close to the stadium and I know many UT fans that feel the same. Not that there were really any other choices on where to build the stadium at the time, so that couldn't really be helped. But the setting for the stadium is one of the worst in the SEC.
 
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