Lady Vols vs Chattanooga

#51
#51
Hallie said:
On pace to be worst shooting team ever ...
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yet 11-1

I have coached for over 40 years and I have yet to see a team, mine or otherwise, without a weakness.
Free throws can be corrected
But not by simply asking your players to get in reps but by studying the players.
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Take Kaiya for instance,,,I went back and studied each freethrow from the ETSU and Chatt games.
The misses weren't consistent,,,miss left, miss right, short etc
If it's one thing, there would be a commonality, but is is more than one thing:

Kaiya looks at every movement or "thing" going on while standing at the line waiting for the ref to give her the ball...

When shooting free throws, prior to getting the ball you have to clear your mind, then upon receiving the ball, go through your ritual, then as you bring the ball up and into the shot process you have to lock your vision on your focal point (there are two: over the front of the rim and inside the back of the rim at the half-diamond,,, the only thing you should think of other than the target is your weakness (follow through, arm-angle, etc)

She has mixture of mechanics in her shot. when she begins, her feet are offset (right toe lead), not balanced,,,She brings the ball up nicely and has an excellent arc,,,BUT,,,since she has a right-foot lead, she is releasing it like her jumper, aligning her knee-hip-elbow (like a jump-shot) on release. And a jump-shot release, with a set-shot start, is a recipe for confusion

There are other minor tweaks I can see but those two are the most obvious

It's an investment...when I work with a player on FT's I like to watch 10+ free throws from all four position (front, back, side, side) and focus on different areas; (feet, hips, shoulders, face, and release),,,watching the mechanics at each spot
 
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Darth_Vol said:
That's actually incredible. How the hell has a player TWELVE games into the season, who started every game and averages 20 minutes, not gone to the free throw line once???
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She hasn’t been as aggressive as other players, which is also why she’s been challenged to get on the glass. If you watch her on offense she’s mostly outside on the perimeter and rarely inside.

This is a problem and one of the main issues with her game currently. She’s playing outside the perimeter to always be a threat in order to have other teams not be able to crowd TK. She’s not light footed enough to consistently cut and get back on the perimeter or end up with an open shot under the basket. This is where we miss Rae or having a more athletic player in that particular position.

I love/enjoy all the players but I see the pros and cons to their games.
 
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youcancallmeAl said:
It isn't. Obviously we need to improve on FT's to reach our potential. There's really no excuse for any DI team to be this poor at it. And pointing that out on this forum isn't a problem with me at all.

But never seeing the positive of being ranked 7th in the country, or acknowledging that the glass is mostly full at 11-1, despite a couple negatives, is my beef with that poster. All of his negativity is designed to get at Kellie, whom he disrespects with an obsession. He attacks any weakness, perceived or real relentlessly (free throws, hammering Darby, etc), no matter if he publicly ridicules a player in the process, as avenues of attack on her. And, yes, drama queen is accurate for that poster.
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Then maybe pick another post to complain about how he posts, not a post that's very tame and, on top of that, entirely accurate.
 
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PG1 said:
This has to be wrong.
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That's what I thought at first too, but it's true. Other than Burrell, who has played less than a half this season, Darby is the only player on the roster who has yet to shoot a free throw. Hell, even Rennie has gone to the line.

But hey, I guess you can't miss free throws if you don't shoot them...

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Bballnut1952 said:
It's pretty tough research to find out what every team was shooting after 12 games. But here is a link for every team at seasons end.

Year By Year Season Stats (PDF) - University of Tennessee Athletics

Teams that finished worse at shooting than this team after 12 games?

2015-16 was the only team shooting a lower percentage FG's and 3 PT FG's than this years team so far.

Interesting stat. The 1988-89 team took only 26 TOTAL three pointers. It was the second season of three point shooting. A different time back then.

Do you believe that the stats will improve playing against the tough SEC teams?
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Great info. Thanks for posting. How did you come up with the first 12 games results from this info?
It would be simple to compare first 12 stats to full year stats and see whether full years was higher. If higher consistently then we could feel comfortable this teams stats will improve. The wildcard, however, is who is doing the shooting? Rae would probably have a higher shooting percentage than say a freshman or sophomore with little experience early in the season. It seems plausible that Rae’s shooting is probably not going to improve much over the year but an inexperienced player might have more upside on improving stats. You would almost have to assign an experience rating (A,B,C) and see what percentage of minutes fell into each category. Could then do regression analysis to determine if higher percentage of minutes by least experienced group led to a larger increase in shooting percent by year end. That is hard to get into a post. I hope it made sense.
 
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Darth_Vol said:
That's actually incredible. How the hell has a player TWELVE games into the season, who started every game and averages 20 minutes, not gone to the free throw line once???
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Why don't you just leave the girl alone.... We understand your no fan of hers. Your post about her seem to be coming from a creepy stalker.
 
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Lucy said:
Great info. Thanks for posting. How did you come up with the first 12 games results from this info?
It would be simple to compare first 12 stats to full year stats and see whether full years was higher. If higher consistently then we could feel comfortable this teams stats will improve. The wildcard, however, is who is doing the shooting? Rae would probably have a higher shooting percentage than say a freshman or sophomore with little experience early in the season. It seems plausible that Rae’s shooting is probably not going to improve much over the year but an inexperienced player might have more upside on improving stats. You would almost have to assign an experience rating (A,B,C) and see what percentage of minutes fell into each category. Could then do regression analysis to determine if higher percentage of minutes by least experienced group led to a larger increase in shooting percent by year end. That is hard to get into a post. I hope it made sense.
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I didn't come up with first 12 game results from that link. Sorry if I gave you that impression. I was just showing the full season results. That was so cool to look at. It's great they have it going back to the beginning of time...lol.

"It would be simple to compare first 12 stats to full year stats and see whether full years was higher. "

Not sure what you mean here? This seasons first 12 stats to other seasons full year stats? Or other seasons first 12 stats compared to their full season stats? All that is a lot of work to put together but sure would be interesting to know.

I did find this when perusing the media guide.

3-POINT FIELD GOAL PERCENTAGE
3P% Player Season
1. .490 Dena Head (25-51) 1990-91
2. .463 Jessie Rennie (25-54) 2019-20

I wonder how many fans knew this about Rennie's 2019-20 season?
 
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creekdipper said:
I knew Jessie shot the 3 pretty well her freshman year, but not that well. Shows her potential.
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With another 12 years she might become a consistent 3 point shooter who averages about 30 % when lights are turned on for game days.
 
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Bballnut1952 said:
I didn't come up with first 12 game results from that link. Sorry if I gave you that impression. I was just showing the full season results. That was so cool to look at. It's great they have it going back to the beginning of time...lol.

"It would be simple to compare first 12 stats to full year stats and see whether full years was higher. "

Not sure what you mean here? This seasons first 12 stats to other seasons full year stats? Or other seasons first 12 stats compared to their full season stats? All that is a lot of work to put together but sure would be interesting to know.

I did find this when perusing the media guide.

3-POINT FIELD GOAL PERCENTAGE
3P% Player Season
1. .490 Dena Head (25-51) 1990-91
2. .463 Jessie Rennie (25-54) 2019-20

I wonder how many fans knew this about Rennie's 2019-20 season?
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It would really be illuminating to see what teams she made those 3's against .....mostly teams like ETSU and Chattanooga.
 
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Lucy said:
Good try. As a freshman those are the teams she saw action against. Why the need to denigrate her achievements?
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She actually did it against a mix of teams.

1-1 Central Arkansas
1-2 Stetson
1-1 Air Force
2-3 Colorado State
1-1 Stanford
5-7 Howard
3-3 Ole Miss
1-1 LSU
2-4 Florida
3-4 Arkansas
2-3 Ole Miss

That's 22-30 in those games.

She was 3-24 in the rest of her games and those were against -

0-4 ETSU
0-0 Notre Dame
0-3 Tennessee State
0-3 Ark Pine-Bluff
0-1 Texas
1-3 Portland State
0-1 Missouri
0-1 Kentucky
0-0 Georgia
0-0 Alabama
0-0 UConn
0-1 LSU
0-0 South Carolina
0-0 Texas A&M
1-3 Vanderbilt
1-3 Auburn
0-0 Missouri
0-1 Kentucky

Interestingly she only took 3 shots other than 3-pointers and missed them all.
 
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Darth_Vol said:
That's what I thought at first too, but it's true. Other than Burrell, who has played less than a half this season, Darby is the only player on the roster who has yet to shoot a free throw. Hell, even Rennie has gone to the line.

But hey, I guess you can't miss free throws if you don't shoot them...

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Obsessed with Darby much? Why?
 
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Rickster said:
Jeffs ass wart is running out of things to be critical about so he is into player bashing now. When he needs to, he just makes up reasons to hate on the team by taking stats and turning it into whining soapbox drivel.
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All of it - I mean ALL of it - is aimed at Coach Harper. He is desperate not to allow what is happening to happen - Harper is on the path to proving him wrong about her, so far. It apparently terrifies him to be proved wrong. Must be tough to be Jeff Walz and not have been considered for the UT job.
 
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Terrells Bay88 said:
Last season, it took Norte Dame's Sam Brunelle 15 games until shot a free throw. She ended up going 3-4 in 17 games played.
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There was a reason why she didn't shoot any foul shots in their first 15 games. Brunelle was terrible last year for ND. Even the vast majority of their fans said she was not in game condition.
 
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Bballnut1952 said:
I didn't come up with first 12 game results from that link. Sorry if I gave you that impression. I was just showing the full season results. That was so cool to look at. It's great they have it going back to the beginning of time...lol.

"It would be simple to compare first 12 stats to full year stats and see whether full years was higher. "

Not sure what you mean here? This seasons first 12 stats to other seasons full year stats? Or other seasons first 12 stats compared to their full season stats? All that is a lot of work to put together but sure would be interesting to know.

I did find this when perusing the media guide.

3-POINT FIELD GOAL PERCENTAGE
3P% Player Season
1. .490 Dena Head (25-51) 1990-91
2. .463 Jessie Rennie (25-54) 2019-20

I wonder how many fans knew this about Rennie's 2019-20 season?
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What's even crazier is I believe Rennie missed her first 8 threes that year. So after starting 0-8 she was about 50% in conference play.
 
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