Large Explosion in downtown Nashville

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NEO said:
I don't think so.

It could be but I have a feeling this was a warning to show how easily our networks can be brought down.

I am also shocked like many of you that 1 freaking building controls so much grid. You would think they have work arounds for something like this or the servers would be below ground and protected from earthquake level explosions....which clearly they aren't.

This country has to wake up and be more prepared.
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Those buildings are built to hold up to tornadoes and other stuff but you can't plan on someone parking a RV by the building and blowing up 10 blocks.
 
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Upgrading and decentralizing important infrastructure, plus hardening protection around important nodes, could put a lot of people to work and help generate significant capital flow across multiple industries. But, I digress.

If the intended goal was to lure police for a mass casualty event, I'm glad it failed and I hope whoever was behind it spends little to no time in jail. That's one of the few times you'll ever see me condoning that someone have an "accident".

I won't participate in speculation beyond this, but I'm keeping an eye on this thread because it's a better info source than sitting at my computer hitting F5 at a for-profit "news" site.
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
These guys have everything figured out. They don't need experts. They already know because, well, they just know
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Obliviously you don't understand irony. In addition to my story that this was a cover up for SolarWinds; I'm going with SolarWinds was necessary for the Chinese to steal (steel kinda fits, too) the election for their puppet. By the way I'm on my better behavior - the more appropriate ethnic term - like stuff in log cabin walls - keeps drawing fire - sorta like when you mention towels and rags. Oh, and absolutely being serious, I'm not sold that the China flu was completely innocent - certainly not the early coverup and failure to present the real story as it was known by the Chinese.
 
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Dominion wasn't even using the compromised SolarWinds platform, but a separate ftp product that made use of none of the compromised codebase.

There's so much reaching on that topic that Mr Fantastic is jealous at the stretch distance.
 
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rocytop2624 said:
Those buildings are built to hold up to tornadoes and other stuff but you can't plan on someone parking a RV by the building and blowing up 10 blocks.
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They didnt blow up 10 blocks.

And yes you do have safety protocols in place in case this building goes down.

There should be contingency plans in place and there weren't. Totally unacceptable for a telecom company especially when so many are clearly breaking anti-trust laws and merging at the speed of light and limiting consumer options.
 
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chatsworth_vol said:
Hell you should have seen it a few years ago. When they were building Mercedes Benz stadium in Atlanta some yahoos on the construction crew cut a fiber line. It took out Verizon cell lines from Macon to Chattanooga. At 911 it took out about 80% of our wireless 911 trunks. We were down to land lines and just odd ball cell service on 911 for 2 days. Just from one fiber bundle being cut, and the idiots did it twice!
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That should scare everyone in the world.

Only in a die hard movie should you be able to take down communications that easily.
 
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NEO said:
That should scare everyone in the world.

Only in a die hard movie should you be able to take down communications that easily.
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If there's ever an invasion of this country, it will start with a cyber attack and shutdown of the power grid. Defenses will only operate so long without power and getting emergency generator fuel would be compromised as well. I've never understood the thought process behind the smart grid concept; if a utility can control things, someone else can too - that's a simple fact of life these days.
 
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AM64 said:
If there's ever an invasion of this country, it will start with a cyber attack and shutdown of the power grid. Defenses will only operate so long without power and getting emergency generator fuel would be compromised as well. I've never understood the thought process behind the smart grid concept; if a utility can control things, someone else can too - that's a simple fact of life these days.
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I am afraid people do not undertand how fragile the entire system is. The 1965 NYC blackout due to a freakin relay disrupted several states and subsequent NYC blackouts were so wide felt. I rememeber 1977 at my grandmothers and all the looting on TV. An exponentional order of magnitude of fragility now.
 
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Orangeburst said:
I am afraid people do not undertand how fragile the entire system is. The 1965 NYC blackout due to a freakin relay disrupted several states and subsequent NYC blackouts were so wide felt. I rememeber 1977 at my grandmothers and all the looting on TV. An exponentional order of magnitude of fragility now.
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The thing is the competing interests for connected power grids work at odds to each other. Separate grids keep massive failures like that from spreading - the domino effect. On the other had some regions are power "poor" and others have plenty of generating capacity, so there's always the profit motive to generate power in one place and sell it to perhaps CA at a profit. The bad parts of that are that the grid is subject to a more massive failure, and it can raise the cost to customers in regions where the rates were lower if power can be sold at higher prices across a connected grid.
 
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AM64 said:
The thing is the competing interests for connected power grids work at odds to each other. Separate grids keep massive failures like that from spreading - the domino effect. On the other had some regions are power "poor" and others have plenty of generating capacity, so there's always the profit motive to generate power in one place and sell it to perhaps CA at a profit. The bad parts of that are that the grid is subject to a more massive failure, and it can raise the cost to customers in regions where the rates were lower if power can be sold at higher prices across a connected grid.
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Texas has its own grid. I get it, those plants run and you cant shut them on/off like a lightswitch. You have excess power, you sell it.
One thing that struck me living in Texas is you have to get your power thru a broker, and there are many. You sign a contract for how much you are willing to pay per KW/HR vs how much you anticpate using. If you go over yor KW allotment, you pay a big premium.
 
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