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IMO, the only way the Vols are safely in the NCAA tournament is by winning 2 games or more in the SECT.

And even Palm will say they aren't safe in that scenario.

Like I've explained, he doesn't want to leave any doubt or opening. He has said, if you're near the bubble, the only way to be safe is to win your conference tourney. Obviously you can get in with less, but he doesn't like talking about that.
 
73 brackets in the matrix have been updated since Sunday. The last 4 in according to average seed:
11 Nebraska, 11 Xavier, 12 Tennessee, 12 Arkansas

Question: Would they allow Tennessee and Arkansas to play against each other in one of the last 4 games considering we would have already played twice? Will probably be a moot point since it's likely one or the other in the tournament
 
No one has Tennessee solidly in right now. A loss toarkansas and it is done. But we are barely in, so if we don't get a big win and a couple teams right behind us do, we will not make it. And there are a lot of bubble teams that can make a run/ win their conference tournaments.
 
No one has Tennessee solidly in right now. A loss toarkansas and it is done. But we are barely in, so if we don't get a big win and a couple teams right behind us do, we will not make it. And there are a lot of bubble teams that can make a run/ win their conference tournaments.

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Like what? I say we have a 5% chance if we lost to Arkansas and a 50% chance if we lose to Florida.

I would say 35% if we lose to Arkansas and 95% if we lose to Florida

Winning against Arkansas puts our RPI around 39-40, there's been 1 high major iirc to be left out of the field with a RPI that high in the last 10ish years.
 
I would say 35% if we lose to Arkansas and 95% if we lose to Florida

Winning against Arkansas puts our RPI around 39-40, there's been 1 high major iirc to be left out of the field with a RPI that high in the last 10ish years.

You can find all of kind of stats for all kinds of things. You this the kind of garbage you hang on to. The fact is that we are barely in the tournament. Beating Arkansas isn't going to help us nearly as much as losing to them will crush us. Beating Arkansas and losing to Florida would be neutral for our resume. The question is whether the teams right behind us will do enough to leapfrog us in that scenario. Most years I would say no, this year they very well could.
 
You can find all of kind of stats for all kinds of things. You this the kind of garbage you hang on to. The fact is that we are barely in the tournament. Beating Arkansas isn't going to help us nearly as much as losing to them will crush us. Beating Arkansas and losing to Florida would be neutral for our resume. The question is whether the teams right behind us will do enough to leapfrog us in that scenario. Most years I would say no, this year they very well could.

Well considering a lot of the teams play each other it's doubtful they all can :hi:
 
I would say 35% if we lose to Arkansas and 95% if we lose to Florida

Winning against Arkansas puts our RPI around 39-40, there's been 1 high major iirc to be left out of the field with a RPI that high in the last 10ish years.
Since we're hypothetical, if we did lose to Arkansas and we still had an RPI of lets say 42. Do you really think the committee wants to be "that" committee to leave a high-major like Tennessee out? We have two big names players and committees really look into rosters (and play makers) more than people think. I think if we lost to Arkansas we'd be relying on other bubble teams to get in, but I think we'd barely make it due to the fact our team has Jarnell/Jordan, and I think the committee likes teams with playmakers. Do you get what I'm getting at or am I sounding stupid lol?
 
Bubble teams with an RPI in the 40's get in like 100% of the time historically. One of the radio shows on TSR threw that fact out Friday I believe. something like that. a win vs Arkansas I think pretty much secures us a spot unless something crazy happens in some other conference tournaments.
 
Since we're hypothetical, if we did lose to Arkansas and we still had an RPI of lets say 42. Do you really think the committee wants to be "that" committee to leave a high-major like Tennessee out? We have two big names players and committees really look into rosters (and play makers) more than people think. I think if we lost to Arkansas we'd be relying on other bubble teams to get in, but I think we'd barely make it due to the fact our team has Jarnell/Jordan, and I think the committee likes teams with playmakers. Do you get what I'm getting at or am I sounding stupid lol?

I think we have a decent shot even if we lose to Arkansas, but I would like to not have to monitor other conference tournaments and be panicking come selection Sunday.

Let me say though, a loss to Arkansas and our RPI isn't gonna be 42, it's 43 right now. A loss to Arkansas and we fall to close to 50 I bet, and that's the cutting line typically.
 
Didnt Palm love us as a bubble team last year? I know he loves to hate us this year.
 
Only 2 or 3 would need to jump us and we would be at home. A lot of the bubble teams have RPIs very close to ours and they can't all make it.

And like I said, quite a few play each other which will eliminate some. If Tennessee wins their opening game I would put a lot on them making the dance.
 
You can find all of kind of stats for all kinds of things. You this the kind of garbage you hang on to. The fact is that we are barely in the tournament. Beating Arkansas isn't going to help us nearly as much as losing to them will crush us. Beating Arkansas and losing to Florida would be neutral for our resume. The question is whether the teams right behind us will do enough to leapfrog us in that scenario. Most years I would say no, this year they very well could.

Umm stats are the only true way to evaluate this thing because no one here is on the committee.
 
Q. When you have two teams that are trying to get into The Dance, what are you looking at more, what they did in the regular season or the conference tournament?


A: I think every committee member is different in what they choose to value. I’m certainly a three months is more important than a three days kind of person. But if you get an obvious situation, like where St. John’s playing Providence tomorrow or maybe Tennessee playing Arkansas Friday or maybe St. Joe’s playing Dayton on Friday, these aren’t just all in or all out.

It’s not unrealistic, nor do I think it’s inappropriate for someone to say these teams are so close, and we’re watching, how can that not be a rubber game or a play‑in kind of situation. Usually there’s one or two of those a year and it looks like this year we’re going to have three.

And I think for the most part the loser of all three of those games, should they happen, is not going to make it. Tennessee has the best chance to lose and stay among that group.


-Lunardi
 

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