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#59,830
DC_Vol said:
I am at a loss for why more people aren’t furious about this. We still have states that are pretty much shut down because of the dreaded covid-19.
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It seems this Clay Travis tweet is per usual based on a bit of misunderstanding or misinformation, I can never tell which:

1) Only about 20% of people never develop symptoms. They are those considered asymptomatic.

2) Of the other 80% of people who DO develop symptoms, they are more often than not shedding virus before they get their first symptom. WHO would not classify them as asymptomatic. They are considered pre-symptomatic. Those are the people who are a more common vector of transmission.
 
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Rifleman said:
It seems this Clay Travis tweet is per usual based on a bit of misunderstanding or misinformation, I can never tell which:

1) Only about 20% of people never develop symptoms. They are those considered asymptomatic.

2) Of the other 80% of people who DO develop symptoms, they are more often than not shedding virus before they get their first symptom. WHO would not classify them as asymptomatic. They are considered pre-symptomatic. Those are the people who are a more common vector of transmission.
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Go crawl cnbc because they first reported it as such
 
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Volsfaninva917 said:
Go crawl cnbc because they first reported it as such
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I understand the statement. It is being presented in several quarters as though there is no threat from people without symptoms. I don't think the data is in on that front. If so, that would be great news, but we need to start confirming things before we assume them at some point during this. Very little of that happening from any quarter at this point.

A far bettter overview than I could provide:

 
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Rifleman said:
It seems this Clay Travis tweet is per usual based on a bit of misunderstanding or misinformation, I can never tell which:

1) Only about 20% of people never develop symptoms. They are those considered asymptomatic.

2) Of the other 80% of people who DO develop symptoms, they are more often than not shedding virus before they get their first symptom. WHO would not classify them as asymptomatic. They are considered pre-symptomatic. Those are the people who are a more common vector of transmission.
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I read the article and was not reacting to the tweet.

Either way, Van Kerkhove seemed confident that by strictly isolating the people who are feeling sick, the world would do much better at stopping the spread of COVID-19.

"I would love to be able to give a proportion of how much transmission we would actually stop, but it would be a drastic reduction in transmission," she said. "From the data we have, it still seems to be rare that an asymptomatic person actually transmits onward to a secondary individual."
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Here’s the link to the article I read:

https://www.businessinsider.com/who-its-rare-for-asymptomatic-people-to-spread-the-coronavirus-2020-6

Do you realize most of the measures that have been taken are based on an assumption that the disease Is more infectious than the data has shown to be, that the disease is deadlier than the data has shown it to be, and that the disease is transmitted from a symptomatic people to soon-to-be dead grannies?

The whole thing is a charade. We need to collectively admit:

1) we overreacted and need to correct course ASAP
b) the “experts” are worthless
III) politicians at the state and federal level should NEVER again to be allowed so much power as to implement this massive **** up
 
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Rifleman said:
It seems this Clay Travis tweet is per usual based on a bit of misunderstanding or misinformation, I can never tell which:

1) Only about 20% of people never develop symptoms. They are those considered asymptomatic.

2) Of the other 80% of people who DO develop symptoms, they are more often than not shedding virus before they get their first symptom. WHO would not classify them as asymptomatic. They are considered pre-symptomatic. Those are the people who are a more common vector of transmission.
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That is not true..... at least not in my state..... the number of asymptomatic people is much much higher than 20%
 
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volbeast33 said:
I don’t go to rallies but I would have no problem going..... I have been living my life as normal since I figured out that this was nonsense....
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It’s been my position since very early on that this was a bad flu season and nothing to shut the economy down.

I own up to the fact that it was worse than a bad flu season. Still, it has not warranted the over reaction and all out liberty grabs from the government.

I’m not convinced lock downs did a damned thing helpful. It was clear from about t he second week that Dr. Fauci was talking out of his ass.

This thing also showed who the dolts who lap up anything that comes from a person with the label “expert” attached. These people cannot be trusted to think for themselves.
 
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It'll be really fascinating when they review those that died and compare them to the morbidity tables given their diagnosis codes. My guess is "corona" or whatever killed them did not appreciably shorten the vast majority of lives, or they were near death with their current ailments and they simply died with a positive test. A large chunk of US fatalities were in nursing homes, if you've ever had a loved one there you know they are sadly revolving doors. I can't count how many roommates my grandma had, we would go see her every few months and it was a different woman every time.
 
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Volsfaninva917 said:
I live in one of them
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Im just north of you. And my county won’t even follow the guidelines from Lockdown Larry. These clowns who couldn’t keep the books of an ice cream truck make weighty decisions that cost the people dearly. I cannot wait to leave.
 
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We went to Red Clay State Park Saturday, they had a sign up in the door that said they were no longer accepting cash as payment. How can a government owned facility refuse to accept government tender?
 
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DC_Vol said:
It’s been my position since very early on that this was a bad flu season and nothing to shut the economy down.

I own up to the fact that it was worse than a bad flu season. Still, it has not warranted the over reaction and all out liberty grabs from the government.

I’m not convinced lock downs did a damned thing helpful. It was clear from about t he second week that Dr. Fauci was talking out of his ass.

This thing also showed who the dolts who lap up anything that comes from a person with the label “expert” attached. These people cannot be trusted to think for themselves.
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I will go with the experts over your feelings.

Lockdowns worked, new research shows: 60 million infections were prevented in the US, and Europe saved 3.1 million lives
 
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#59,845
They have to let Chauvin go. George Floyd had CV-19 at the time of his death so the cause of death was the virus and not the result of police action.























Did I forget the blue font again?
 
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Mick said:
I will go with the experts over your feelings.

Lockdowns worked, new research shows: 60 million infections were prevented in the US, and Europe saved 3.1 million lives
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Make a model predicting certain death
Model sucks
Make another one, less deathy but still bad
Make rules based off the less sucky model
Things unfold large as they would have anyways
Less sucky model also misses, most likely a data problem(lel), not your fault
People question if what they just went through made any sense at all
Make ANOTHER model proving that the rules based off your second model worked and saved everyone from the certain death you figured out quickly wasn't going to happen anyways
???
Profit
 
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DC_Vol said:
It’s been my position since very early on that this was a bad flu season and nothing to shut the economy down.

I own up to the fact that it was worse than a bad flu season. Still, it has not warranted the over reaction and all out liberty grabs from the government.

I’m not convinced lock downs did a damned thing helpful. It was clear from about t he second week that Dr. Fauci was talking out of his ass.

This thing also showed who the dolts who lap up anything that comes from a person with the label “expert” attached. These people cannot be trusted to think for themselves.
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I bought into it to a point when it first happened...... I took my shoes off when I cam in the house..... came straight in the house..... took a shower and put my clothes straight in the washer..... I quarantined myself twice in my bedroom for a little while after positive tests where I worked..... that started to change when I realized that:
1. Almost no one was showing any signs or symptoms
2. The hospitals were pretty much empty
3. The covid facility barely had any patients
4. They were counting everything they could as a covid death
5. The majority of deaths nationwide was from nursing homes where the people are already extremely sick
6. People are testing positive for four months straight with no symptoms
7. They claim minorities are more vulnerable.... they jail business owners but are ok with mass protests..... ( something is not right there)

I will go and do anything I want to do.... the government can kiss my a$$.
 
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utvols88 said:
Interesting to see you speak up on this.. have you had any similar reservations the last two weeks?



that's rhetorical.
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I haven't been out protesting and I think what they're doing is risky from a virus perspective. Certainly weakens the "we can't go vote in person" argument for the fall. However, I do think outdoor protests are safer than indoor rallies, especially when those indoor rallies are about 80% senior citizens and the morbidly obese.
 
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