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#62,301
McDad said:
This is odd. I've been thinking same for couple days. No discernible effect from protests...going all the way back to the dudes at Michigan Capitol. I wonder if uv from sun kills it or something?
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I’m guessing if people are sharing any sort of ventilation, it’s going to spread like a wild fire.
 
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volfanhill said:
How do you plan to safely get there without a vaccine? And I use the term safely very loosely
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Just keep doing what we are doing , it’s working . The hospitalizations are and have dropped significantly and so has the deaths . The riots / protestors exposed the media and political driven panic from the virus that caused the country to shut down . We have stats from other countries saying their s hooks are open and no spikes and they are open back up .
 
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0nelilreb said:
Just keep doing what we are doing , it’s working . The hospitalizations are and have dropped significantly and so has the deaths . The riots / protestors exposed the media and political driven panic from the virus that caused the country to shut down . We have stats from other countries saying their s hooks are open and no spikes and they are open back up .
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I agree with everything you are saying except that it’s working from a herd immunity standpoint. You need 70% of the population at minimum to have immunity. That’s going to take a vaccine. Unless we plan on doing this for 3-5 more years. And even then, I am asking here because I don’t know, but if I had it three years ago that’s not going to help hers immunity x number of years from now. Plus Sweden, who is the most open and been shooting for it, were shocked to see how far off they were. They guessed they were at 50% and it came back at 8% I think.
 
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Your so called “experts”
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USAFgolferVol said:
That's what's great about our country. You get a vote. Lets be clear though. It's not an either/or situation. It's not Trump or a Mother Theresa type

BTW, I am very much aware of the kind of world in which we live. I've literally lived all over it
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We live in a two party system of gov't. Our choices will come down to "either/or" in Nov just like it did 4 yrs ago. In our case it's going to come down to Trump or Biden. In Biden's case the picture painted is "do you want a guy who's in cognitive decline negotiating with Xi"? I'll give you three examples of cognitive decline and none of them ended well:

1) Woodrow Wilson-had a stroke in Oct of 1919 and was barely there for the last two yrs of his Presidency. Many issues were either not addressed or poorly addressed after his stroke.

2) FDR- We got taken to the cleaners in the Yalta Conference in Feb 1945. FDR was barely there. Eastern Europe paid the price for this conference for the next 50 yrs

3) Ronald Reagan-second term. Iran-Contra; AIDS response; Immigration

So I disagree. In this country it is an either/or system.
 
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While touting preliminary success in developing treatments for COVID-19, Dr. Anthony Fauci said Tuesday there was “no guarantee” that a vaccine to prevent the coronavirus would be ready by early 2021.

“There is no guarantee — and anyone who has been involved in vaccinations will tell you — we’ll have a safe and effective vaccine, but we are cautiously optimistic, looking at animal data and the preliminary data, that we will at least know the extent of the efficacy sometime in the winter and early part of next year,” Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, told the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee.

Fauci also said scientists were “aspirationally hopeful” there could be doses available to the public by next year.

What does that even mean?
Doesn't sound encouraging.
 
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Electric Orange said:
While touting preliminary success in developing treatments for COVID-19, Dr. Anthony Fauci said Tuesday there was “no guarantee” that a vaccine to prevent the coronavirus would be ready by early 2021.

“There is no guarantee — and anyone who has been involved in vaccinations will tell you — we’ll have a safe and effective vaccine, but we are cautiously optimistic, looking at animal data and the preliminary data, that we will at least know the extent of the efficacy sometime in the winter and early part of next year,” Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, told the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee.

Fauci also said scientists were “aspirationally hopeful” there could be doses available to the public by next year.

What does that even mean?
Doesn't sound encouraging.
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Don't even worry about what Fauci says anymore. Seriously. I could tell you right now what he just did. Yeah we get that there are no guarantees. Did you think there was a guarantee? What question was he clearing up when he said no guarantees? He never says anything of substance. I'm wondering why after all these months people are still struggling to figure him out. I suggest you start a new thread when he says something of substance. It'll be worthy of one
 
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0nelilreb said:
Just keep doing what we are doing , it’s working . The hospitalizations are and have dropped significantly and so has the deaths . The riots / protestors exposed the media and political driven panic from the virus that caused the country to shut down . We have stats from other countries saying their s hooks are open and no spikes and they are open back up .
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Hospitalizations and deaths are going up. Do you mean rates?
 
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