Latest Coronavirus - Yikes

[BeardedVol]

Yeah cause doctors would never over prescribe someone based on their wishes and we dont have a painkiller/opioid crisis in this country because of that....

And what happens to those doctors when they get caught doing so?

Doctors charged in opioid bust: See who is on the list, by state

 

[Stew Cook]

Nah, that was me at a local bar (who even though the mayor requires masks they don't make anyone wear one) enjoying an IPA and time with friends and wife

Hard to do that somewhere besides a bar.

 

[TennTradition]

Is that high for a normal day in the snowbird state?

If you maintained that level daily, that's about a 40% increase in daily deaths over normal for Florida (if all other deaths continued occurring at typical levels). I can do some excess death analysis for Florida, but it would be better to do in a few weeks because of data lags.

 

[carlos86]

I know he was a Tulsa rally attendee. Do we know if that's where he got it?

 

[lawgator1]

Yup. I guess you never know for sure but seems likely source was Trump event. Not that Trump or his voters give a crap.

 

[evillawyer]

Yup. I guess you never know for sure but seems likely source was Trump event. Not that Trump or his voters give a crap.

The only person whose death would even possibly move Trump is Ivanka's.

 

[utvolpj]

Yup. I guess you never know for sure but seems likely source was Trump event. Not that Trump or his voters give a crap.

So it's not the responsibility of the compromised individual to protect himself?

 

[Fun coupon VOL]

Yup. I guess you never know for sure but seems likely source was Trump event. Not that Trump or his voters give a crap.

What does it matter?

 

[lawgator1]

So it's not the fault of the compromised individual to protect himself?

Come on. To be part of the Trump cabal, up close and personal, required no mask. It is his whole shtick. That the risk is exaggerated to hurt him politically.

Thats right. 150,000 people have died just to spite Trump. His ego is so pathological massive he probably thinks that. Guarantee he is complaining that Cain died of it.

He sees EVERYTHING through the lens of what effect it has on him.

 

[lawgator1]

What does it matter?

Not much to Cain. Its just a reminder of how Trump's irresponsible approach has cost lives.

 

[utvolpj]

Come on. To be part of the Trump cabal, up close and personal, required no mask. It is his whole shtick. That the risk is exaggerated to hurt him politically.

Thats right. 150,000 people have died just to spite Trump. His ego is so pathological massive he probably thinks that. Guarantee he is complaining that Cain died of it.

He sees EVERYTHING through the lens of what effect it has on him.

I see you have no intention of answering the question. Next time there's really no need to quote the post

Why is an individuals health not under their control? Why blame everyone else for a personal choice? He was compromised and knew the risks. Putting this on Trump is dumb

 

[GAVol]

Come on. To be part of the Trump cabal, up close and personal, required no mask. It is his whole shtick. That the risk is exaggerated to hurt him politically.

Thats right. 150,000 people have died just to spite Trump. His ego is so pathological massive he probably thinks that. Guarantee he is complaining that Cain died of it.

He sees EVERYTHING through the lens of what effect it has on him.

That's fine if you want to call out Trump's ego, but in the last 10 minutes I've seen you say Trump voters don't care when somebody dies and EL says all Trump voters are racists. It's ludicrous to converse in that manner.

 

[clarksvol00]

Nah, that was me at a local bar (who even though the mayor requires masks they don't make anyone wear one) enjoying an IPA and time with friends and wife

 

[C-south]

Not much to Cain. Its just a reminder of how Trump's irresponsible approach has cost lives.

Maybe that’s how Cummings got cancer too.

 

[lawgator1]

That's fine if you want to call out Trump's ego, but in the last 10 minutes I've seen you say Trump voters don't care when somebody dies and EL says all Trump voters are racists. It's ludicrous converse in that manner.

The two are not inconsistent. And by November we will be over 200k dead, it would appear.

And there will be replays of Trump over and over a hundred times saying it is not a threat. 11 cases and that's it. It is going to disappear. The numbers aren't real. Its fake.

He is going to get crushed like the cockroach he is.

 

[BeardedVol]

do you know how science and virus work? Did you read where this strain of coronavirus is different. This study was done on the Frankfurt and Urbani strains, on a cell culture. However, you should run and tell all the doctors about your findings.

It's painfully funny to watch a bunch of philistines who haven't had an actual science class since 9th grade biology, suddenly try to argue the veracity of a viral study all because they feel some bizarre need to justify the statement of a politician.

 

[TrumpedUpVol]

The two are not inconsistent. And by November we will be over 200k dead, it would appear.

And there will be replays of Trump over and over a hundred times saying it is not a threat. 11 cases and that's it. It is going to disappear. The numbers aren't real. Its fake.

He is going to get crushed like the cockroach he is.

For many, the ludicrous lockdown policies are infinitely more "real" than the health repercussions of the virus itself.

 

[Stew Cook]

I see you have no intention of answering the question. Next time there's really no need to quote the post

Why is an individuals health not under their control? Why blame everyone else for a personal choice? He was compromised and knew the risks. Putting this on Trump is dumb

I agree it's probably his own fault, yet I imagine Trump requested he come to the rally, and wearing a mask might have not been the optics Trump wanted on his stage. So, in my anecdotal scenario, without Trump, would he have died?

 

[utvolpj]

The two are not inconsistent. And by November we will be over 200k dead, it would appear.

And there will be replays of Trump over and over a hundred times saying it is not a threat. 11 cases and that's it. It is going to disappear. The numbers aren't real. Its fake.

He is going to get crushed like the cockroach he is.

It's not an urgent threat to the vast majority of individuals. It's not a great enough threat that the entire economy needed to be carpet bombed to stop it

 

[utvolpj]

I agree it's probably his own fault, yet I imagine Trump requested he come to the rally, and wearing a mask might have not been the optics Trump wanted on his stage. So, in my anecdotal scenario, without Trump, would have he died?

He weighed his health options and made a personal choice

 

[Stew Cook]

He weighed his health options and made a personal choice

Fair enough. The contributing factors are not lost on most, though.

 

[lawgator1]

It's not an urgent threat to the vast majority of individuals. It's not a great enough threat that the entire economy needed to be carpet bombed to stop it

Had we embraced masks and similar measures when the experts like Fauci and the CDC concluded we should have, you might be right.

Sadly, Trump and many Republican governors insisted on perpetuating the lie that masks and some consistent closures were not necessary.

The outcome we have now is a DIRECT result of Republican and Trump ineptitude. They are going to pay dearly at the ballot box for a long time to come.

 

[lawgator1]

He weighed his health options and made a personal choice

At the urging of who, exactly? Come on. You can admit it.

 

[allvol123]

It's painfully funny to watch a bunch of philistines who haven't had an actual science class since 9th grade biology, suddenly try to argue the veracity of a viral study all because they feel some bizarre need to justify the statement of a politician.

So says the guy that thinks children are at risk.

 

[evillawyer]

Pitching a pizza joint before saying a word about Herman Cain.