Latest Coronavirus - Yikes

[hUTch2002]

Care to elaborate? Or, would you like to come spend a few days with me and roll your eyes at the parents in tears of frustration, the teenagers who won't leave their rooms, or the autistic children who have fallen back several years, developmentally. Get over yourself.

My middle son is autistic and he’s a home body so he has enjoyed it from that standpoint but it is going to be really tough going back and I’m sure there will be some setbacks for him and some of his classmates. Plus, I have no idea how they’re going to get the autistic kids to wear masks when they all have sensory issues. It looks like the mandate does include them but I’m not certain it will be enforced. We will see in 3 weeks.

 

[VolStrom]

My middle son is autistic and he’s a home body so he has enjoyed it from that standpoint but it is going to be really tough going back and I’m sure there will be some setbacks for him and some of his classmates. Plus, I have no idea how they’re going to get the autistic kids to wear masks when they all have sensory issues. It looks like the mandate does include them but I’m not certain it will be enforced. We will see in 3 weeks.

I bet Kiddiedoc feels bad about now. I hope your son can get back to a normal place.

 

[kiddiedoc]

Quite a bit of time has passed since I last posed the question, but are more people now accepting that the only way past this pandemic is through it? Eventually, most everyone will be exposed. Fortunately, a large percentage of us appear to have prior protection. A smaller percentage will mainly have mild or asymptomatic infection and recover. A tiny fraction will be hospitalized, and unfortunately, some people will die (primarily older/with comorbidities). Hopefully, treatment advancements will continue to shrink the percentage in that final group.

 

[VolStrom]

Quite a bit of time has passed since I last posed the question, but are more people now accepting that the only way past this pandemic is through it? Eventually, most everyone will be exposed. Fortunately, a large percentage of us appear to have prior protection. A smaller percentage will mainly have mild or asymptomatic infection and recover. A tiny fraction will be hospitalized, and unfortunately, some people will die (primarily older/with comorbidities). Hopefully, treatment advancements will continue to shrink the percentage in that final group.

I personally thought it was going to be like the flu and disappear over the summer. Much to my surprise it looks like it's going to run its course before it goes away and everyone that is susceptible to it is going to catch it.

 

[kiddiedoc]

I bet Kiddiedoc feels bad about now. I hope your son can get back to a normal place.

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[VolStrom]

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My mistake, I thought you were replying to hutch2002, not the douche bag.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

To those grasping the straws of the hydroxychloroquine red herring, as advanced by 1 Yale faculty member...

A renewed focus on hydroxychloroquine wastes time and risks lives, 24 Yale faculty members say

A renewed focus on the potential use of the malarial drug hydroxychloroquine is taking time and resources away from the search for something that actually does work to help coronavirus patients and may end up costing lives, two dozen Yale University researchers said Tuesday.

Yale cancer epidemiologist Dr. Harvey Risch launched a new round of headlines when he wrote a commentary in Newsweek last month calling for renewed research on hydroxychloroquine as a treatment for coronavirus, despite multiple studies showing it doesn’t help and might harm patients, and decisions by the US Food and Drug Administration, National Institutes of Health, and the World Health Organization to stop further testing.

The White House, which had promoted the drug, was encouraged to renew its lobbying for the drug, even as coronavirus task force members, including Dr. Anthony Fauci, Dr. Deborah Birx and Adm. Brett Giroir, all said repeatedly the drug does not work and should be dropped.

“We write with grave concern that too many are being distracted by the ardent advocacy of our Yale colleague, Dr. Harvey Risch, to promote the assertion that hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) when given with antibiotics is effective in treating COVID-19, in particular as an early therapeutic intervention for the disease,” the 24 Yale staffers wrote in an open letter posted on Medium. “As his colleagues, we defend the right of Dr. Risch, a respected cancer epidemiologist, to voice his opinions. But he is not an expert in infectious disease epidemiology and he has not been swayed by the body of scientific evidence from rigorously conducted clinical trials, which refute the plausibility of his belief and arguments."​

The Yale researchers said they all want the same thing: an effective treatment for coronavirus. But they said heavy pursuit of hydroxychloroquine took up resources that could be used elsewhere.

“The continuing advocacy on behalf of HCQ distracts us from advancing the science on Covid-19 and seeking more effective interventions in a time when more than 1,000 people are dying per day of this disease,” they wrote.

Yale? Isn't that where Skull and Bones is?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

They're just protesting authority, hog.

Seems like they are wanting tourists to conform and submit.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

I guess I just don't understand why the larger a city gets the more liberal it gets?

I understand why. In large cities, based on economies of scale, you can have govt conveniences like garbage collection, mass transit and other things that simply wouldn't make as much sense in rural areas because you don't have the population densities necessary to make them efficient. So people who live in the cities tend to lean more on govt services. Rural people, living life without all of these govt amenities are more used to being self-sufficient or just doing without.

It's just a different way of living. The two parties and the country reflect this urban vs rural dichotomy, yet no one wants to acknowledge it. I think you would have more understanding and common ground if people from each side looked at life from the other side.

 

[evillawyer]

You know, when someone cuts their wrists, the bleeding eventually stops.

 

[kiddiedoc]

You know, when someone cuts their wrists, the bleeding eventually stops.

Do you ever say anything that makes any sense?

Of course it's going to go away. We will either gain herd immunity or there will be an effective vaccine.

 

[kiddiedoc]

Watching this idiotic KCBoH meeting is maddening. They are throwing around all these ideas as if there is any factual data or science supporting them.

Example: There's now a proposal that all businesses including restaurants be curfewed from alcohol sales at 10 p.m. I'd love to hear the science behind that. I have read extensively nearly every single day. I have never seen any data showing that people being out beyond 10 p.m. are driving hospitalizations or mortality. Hell, the argument can be made that we actually need MORE young people out and about, in order to achieve herd immunity protection by winter.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

You know, when someone cuts their wrists, the bleeding eventually stops.

Food for thought for those in a panic...
The Great COVID-Con: Exposing Journalistic Malpractice

Yes all bleeding eventually stops. One of the most truthful but obvious statements I've ever heard you make. Kudos.

 

[LAVol1]

Inane chatter here about Hydroxychloroquine.

Doesn't work so just friggin stop the ignorant jibberish.

Nation’s testing czar: It’s ‘time to move on’ from talk about hydroxychloroquine

So, you believe a czar, who has probably not treated a single covid patient vs. hundreds of doctors who say they have collectively treated thousands of patients with hydroxychloriquine and zinc with outstanding results. I'll go with the doctors treating patients. If you search for it, you'll find lots of support among doctors for hydroxychloriquine and zinc. You won't find support for it in the liberal media because it doesn't play well with their audience. If you think the media outlets aren't selectively reporting "news", read this:

“We are a cancer and there is no cure,”
https://nypost.com/2020/08/04/msnbc-producer-calls-network-a-cancer-after-quitting-job/

 

[PointGuard]

Dr Fauci’s daughters being threatened

 

[allvol123]

Watching this idiotic KCBoH meeting is maddening. They are throwing around all these ideas as if there is any factual data or science supporting them.

Example: There's now a proposal that all businesses including restaurants be curfewed from alcohol sales at 10 p.m. I'd love to hear the science behind that. I have read extensively nearly every single day. I have never seen any data showing that people being out beyond 10 p.m. are driving hospitalizations or mortality. Hell, the argument can be made that we actually need MORE young people out and about, in order to achieve herd immunity protection by winter.

It is a panel of ignoramuses.

The KCHD literally stated they knew of zero covid clusters caused by being open.

And now like you said, they're considering some 10 PM rule? Wtf?

 

[RavinDave]

Interesting. I just bought a 4 pack of N-95 masks at Kroger. They had plenty.

Good to know.

 

[kiddiedoc]

It is a panel of ignoramuses.

The KCHD literally stated they knew of zero covid clusters caused by being open.

And now like you said, they're considering some 10 PM rule? Wtf?

It's freaking unbelievable that this unelected board seems to have the power to make policies enforceable by law. That's grounds for revolt, and I'm not even kidding. Screw that Karen that wants to close everything down because she *feels* a certain way.

 

[Mick]

It's freaking unbelievable that this unelected board seems to have the power to make policies enforceable by law. That's grounds for revolt, and I'm not even kidding. Screw that Karen that wants to close everything down because she *feels* a certain way.

I found it funny you using kidding .

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Watching this idiotic KCBoH meeting is maddening. They are throwing around all these ideas as if there is any factual data or science supporting them.

Example: There's now a proposal that all businesses including restaurants be curfewed from alcohol sales at 10 p.m. I'd love to hear the science behind that. I have read extensively nearly every single day. I have never seen any data showing that people being out beyond 10 p.m. are driving hospitalizations or mortality. Hell, the argument can be made that we actually need MORE young people out and about, in order to achieve herd immunity protection by winter.

If you tuned in for the whole thing you probably saw my boss make the absolute most of his 3 minutes.

 

[kiddiedoc]

I found it funny you using kidding .

It's been considered, as has homeschooling. Yesterday's delay of another week has certainly intensified the discussion.

After watching tonight's clown show, I have zero doubt that they will react impulsively and close schools as soon as some kids test positive. Maybe it's best to just head off the trouble now.

 

[kiddiedoc]

If you tuned in for the whole thing you probably saw my boss make the absolute most of his 3 minutes.

I did, and if he is who I think he is, he did.

 

[Volsfaninva917]

Dr Fauci’s daughters being threatened

Yeah, thats not cool at all. I know we all bicker on here but there's some real morons out there

 

[PointGuard]

I find this amazing. My daughter is a nurse at one of the big 4 hospitals in Nashville. They are so short of n95 masks that they have some sort of sterilization procedure they do to the mask at the end of each shift and they wear them again the next day. However, they aren't marked in any way so you don't know if you're getting the same mask you wore yesterday or a mask someone else wore. Sounds like a bad plan to me.

Also, her best friend is a nurse at another of the big 4 - in the Covid unit. Her friend's dad is in the hospital with Covid and her mom is sick at home with it. She is afraid to take a n95 mask home with her in case her mom gets sicker and she has to go take care of her. My daughter asked me today If I have an extra she could give to her friend to wear when she takes care of her mom at home. Luckily I had a couple extra.

How pathetic is it that 6 months into this thing hospitals still don't have enough n95 masks and are re-using them?

It’s really pathetic. What’s more pathetic istve fact that there is no unified plan to do anything about It. What’s more pathetic than that is POTUS just a bit ago on August 5 2020 said it’s going to go away

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

I personally thought it was going to be like the flu and disappear over the summer. Much to my surprise it looks like it's going to run its course before it goes away and everyone that is susceptible to it is going to catch it.

But does the flu really disappear in the summer? We don’t test for the flu like we do COVID. If someone thinks they have the flu, most just stay home and recover. They don’t go get tested. I know I have had the flu quite a few times in my life but have never gotten tested. That’s what should happen now. People are getting tested without showing symptoms. That’s dumb.

I think if we tested for the flu like we are for COVID, the numbers would be staggering.