Latest Coronavirus - Yikes

[Rasputin_Vol]

Now we know how they got all their football players testing positive early in the year before it really mattered. Bastadges.

Interesting...

 

[BP4Prez]

Tested positive last week. Today is my last day of quarantine. I have had had very light symptoms and none since Saturday. I have missed 6 days of work. My wife has missed 7 days of work thus far, and now she is required to quarantine for 2 additional weeks due to “being in contact”. So she will now miss 3+ weeks of work, despite testing negative.

We are fortunate enough that we will be okay, but something has to give in regards to the contact stuff. Families can’t continue to do this.

 

[ohhbother]

Had my second dose of the Pfizer vaccine today. It’s been about 14 hours since I was vaccinated. So far, so good. Hope I don’t feel bad tomorrow. Very grateful and blessed to have received the vaccine.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Had my second dose of the Pfizer vaccine today. It’s been about 14 hours since I was vaccinated. So far, so good. Hope I don’t feel bad tomorrow. Very grateful and blessed to have received the vaccine.

Good for you. I hope you are happy and everything works out well for you.

 

[FLVOL_79]

Who was complaining about it hurting? Even still, I'm more than sure that most of the people against it are not worried about it hurting.

When testing first started people were plastering social media with videos of them getting it and they were acting like it was the worst pain in the world.

 

[Sea Ray]

Just curious, why would you prefer the J&J vaccine to the mRNA technology?

That's an easy one: One shot rather than two. Much less hassle

 

[newyorkvol]

Exclusive: Biden will release nearly all available vaccine doses in break from Trump administration policy of holding back stock for second dose - CNNPolitics

So much for following the science.

 

[volfanhill]

Tested positive last week. Today is my last day of quarantine. I have had had very light symptoms and none since Saturday. I have missed 6 days of work. My wife has missed 7 days of work thus far, and now she is required to quarantine for 2 additional weeks due to “being in contact”. So she will now miss 3+ weeks of work, despite testing negative.

We are fortunate enough that we will be okay, but something has to give in regards to the contact stuff. Families can’t continue to do this.

Her company isn't following the close contact guidance correctly. Assuming that is that she avoided direct exposure to you of no more then 15 minutes a day.

 

[kiddiedoc]

Just got back from a dinner date with my wife. Folks around here are apparently ready to move on. The restaurant appeared at 100% capacity, and the new bar we drove by had cars lined up for a hundred yards past their parking lot.

Additionally, we had long friendly conversations with our server and another gentleman who insisted on covering our tab, despite my objection. It seems like some people are actually going out of their way to "reverse the trend." I love it and can't wait to pay it forward on our next night out.

 

[DancingOutlaw]

When testing first started people were plastering social media with videos of them getting it and they were acting like it was the worst pain in the world.

I think the test has changed, in the beginning they were swabbing your brain stem. Now it’s just barely in your nose. I think my wife got a throat swab in the OR.

 

[ajvol01]

Ah - you're coming at this from the direction of the mask preventing self infection. The mask works to prevent the wearer from infecting others. Like doctors in surgery, the mask keeps their germs from me and not vice versa.

And if people aren't going to be disciplined enough to keep their hands to themselves, wash and sanitize their hands, and keep their face penis covered, then they need to stay home or stay away from others.

Or maybe the people that are so scared of a virus with a >95% survival rate should stay at home and let everyone else get back to life.

 

[hUTch2002]

Good for you. I hope you are happy and everything works out well for you.

There went those two doses we gave away Ras.

 

[0nelilreb]

There went those two doses we gave away Ras.

I’m giving up mine to the masses so some lucky citizen can feel good about receiving it . ( and I’m still not wearing a mask ) lol

 

[newyorkvol]

Maybe one of our statistical wizards can help me with this, but by my reading, this study looks like garbage in/garbage out.

SARS-CoV-2 Transmission From People Without COVID-19 Symptoms

Conclusions
Under a range of assumptions of presymptomatic transmission and transmission from individuals with infection who never develop symptoms, the model presented here estimated that more than half of transmission comes from asymptomatic individuals.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

Are you all currently testing for both Covid and influenza.

Yes they are. I find this very odd because we test everyone that comes into icu. They are on the same panel.

imagine that COVID-19 cured the flu.

 

[Sea Ray]

Just got back from a dinner date with my wife. Folks around here are apparently ready to move on. The restaurant appeared at 100% capacity, and the new bar we drove by had cars lined up for a hundred yards past their parking lot.

Additionally, we had long friendly conversations with our server and another gentleman who insisted on covering our tab, despite my objection. It seems like some people are actually going out of their way to "reverse the trend." I love it and can't wait to pay it forward on our next night out.

That's just the sort of evening I've missed during this ordeal but don't you think it's still a bit early to go back to crowded bars and restaurants? I don't think we're yet at the point where it's OK to move on

 

[Sea Ray]

Maybe one of our statistical wizards can help me with this, but by my reading, this study looks like garbage in/garbage out.

SARS-CoV-2 Transmission From People Without COVID-19 Symptoms

Conclusions
Under a range of assumptions of presymptomatic transmission and transmission from individuals with infection who never develop symptoms, the model presented here estimated that more than half of transmission comes from asymptomatic individuals.

I'm no statistical wizard but after looking it over I agree with your assessment. As a matter of principle I don't see how a numbers geek and a computer can tell you with any degree of accuracy how this is transmitted unless they know exactly how a person got the virus. If you don't start with that then it's all built upon a guesstimate upon a guesstimate

 

[Orangeburst]

Dr. Fauci Just Said How Exactly You'll Catch COVID (msn.com)

I though we have already seen studies where asymtomtic spread is not happening

 

[AshG]

Or maybe the people that are so scared of a virus with a >95% survival rate should stay at home and let everyone else get back to life.

There's a huge difference between fear and due diligence. I have said repeatedly that we can be more open than we are at this point. But you've got to stop using discriminatory language against those of us who aren't in a position to join you.

The economic possibilities with HVAC conversion alone - manufacturing and installation - should put a smile on people's faces. Give businesses economic incentive to upgrade. Nice little boost to the economy.

 

[ajvol01]

There's a huge difference between fear and due diligence. I have said repeatedly that we can be more open than we are at this point. But you've got to stop using discriminatory language against those of us who aren't in a position to join you.

The economic possibilities with HVAC conversion alone - manufacturing and installation - should put a smile on people's faces. Give businesses economic incentive to upgrade. Nice little boost to the economy.

Discriminatory language? Wtf

 

[Roustabout]

Just got back from a dinner date with my wife. Folks around here are apparently ready to move on. The restaurant appeared at 100% capacity, and the new bar we drove by had cars lined up for a hundred yards past their parking lot.

Additionally, we had long friendly conversations with our server and another gentleman who insisted on covering our tab, despite my objection. It seems like some people are actually going out of their way to "reverse the trend." I love it and can't wait to pay it forward on our next night out.

Are you endangering your patients?

 

[newyorkvol]

I'm no statistical wizard but after looking it over I agree with your assessment. As a matter of principle I don't see how a numbers geek and a computer can tell you with any degree of accuracy how this is transmitted unless they know exactly how a person got the virus. If you don't start with that then it's all built upon a guesstimate upon a guesstimate

Dr. Fauci Just Said How Exactly You'll Catch COVID (msn.com)

I though we have already seen studies where asymtomtic spread is not happening

Part of the problem is the definition of a truly asymptomatic case....meaning, someone who truly has live, culturable, infectious virus versus “dead nucleotides” that Dr Fauci has said is what exists at a cycle threshold >35. Most states are testing at CT>37. Some are even testing at >40, like Maine at 45. This means that the test is likely 1000x more sensitive than it needs to be to detect live virus.

But, there truly are asymptomatic cases as well. A recent contact tracing study in The Lancet showed that those patients are 4x less likely to transmit virus as symptomatic patients. @Sea Ray which makes it weird that the JAMA study set asymptomatic people as 75% as infectious as symptomatic. That number is likely 3x too high.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)32651-9/fulltext

 

[AshG]

Are you endangering your patients?

The case could be made that there's a violation of the Hippocratic Oath at play.

The most fair and reasonable thing to do would be for him to be open with his patients about his beliefs and activities and let them choose. I bet most of his patients would stay, but those with concerns may choose to go elsewhere.

My doctors here have been transparent with their behavior because they understand they have to have the trust of their patients. Violations of the sacred oath without consent of the patient can result in a less effective relationship.

 

[kiddiedoc]

Are you endangering your patients?

By going to dinner with my wife? I hope you're kidding.

I've been coughed and spit on by screaming kids every single day for the past ten months. I'd say my daily profession is a much greater "hazard" than having a meal with other healthy people in the building.

 

[DancingOutlaw]

There's a huge difference between fear and due diligence. I have said repeatedly that we can be more open than we are at this point. But you've got to stop using discriminatory language against those of us who aren't in a position to join you.

The economic possibilities with HVAC conversion alone - manufacturing and installation - should put a smile on people's faces. Give businesses economic incentive to upgrade. Nice little boost to the economy.

Why would more expense in a recession make anyone smile? You spend five figures on your HVAC only to have your health department shut down your business on a whim.