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K-town Vol Fan said:
The traditional flu vaccine is not a mRNA vaccine. They are totally different. However, in the very near future, a mRNA version of the flu vaccine could actually eliminate the flu almost completely, assuming people aren't afraid of it.
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You really believe the flu can be eliminated? Seriously?
 
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Orangeburst said:
I liked it.

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Guy code violation though.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
You really believe the flu can be eliminated? Seriously?
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Of course not, not with our current understanding and technology.

The mRNA flu vaccine research, if successful, would merely allow more rapid/"real-time" production of seasonal vaccines based on actual local circulating viral subtypes. mRNA vax would still be very specific to a particular H&N combination.
 
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My totally inept understanding, re: Covid vs flu

Are you familiar with languages? Think of Covid as American English and the Flu as a Romance language.

You go different places in the US, and the English is a wee bit different. Try being from the Midwest and trying to understand your Appalachian-raised music professor. There's some confusion, but they got 95% of what I said. Covid is the same way. The Delta variant has enough of the same core of what was used for the standard vaccines. If you had Covid or the vaccine before, your body can understand most of the Delta and hold its own.

Now on to the Romance languages, languages that stem from a mostly Latin and western European melding. I can read Latin and read and speak some Italian. Despite Italian coming from Latin, the structure is very different and you may be able to pick out a word here or there. Then there's French, which is Italian plus Spanish put in a blender, poured out, then every third letter omitted and you have to speak it while having a mouth full of rocks. Also a Romance language, but way the hell out in left field from Italian and Latin.

Flu strains are more like Italian and French than Midwestern English and Appalachian English. You may get the French shot, then the Italian flu shows up. Or vice versa. That's how the strains work and why you need a different vaccine depending on what seems to be coming down the pike.
 
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It might be more appropriate to use the analogy of a single word, such as "y'all" in the South. mRNA vaccine codes for only the spike protein (a single word spoken by everyone in the South). If that protein is changed significantly, or someone suddenly refers to their local collection of people as "xerxis," it won't be recognized by antibodies (or other Southerners).

Natural immunity is broader, as there are antibodies to other surface markers. Escape by the virus would require mutations to many markers.

Very creative and well-phrased question, though.
 
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LouderVol said:
Doesnt say what you think it does.

The RNA tech doesnt future proof against the flu beyond that season. And as noted it can still "miss". They just decrease the likelihood of a miss. .
You will still need to get vaxxed every year.
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But instead of it being nearly 50/50 of actually being effective it could be over 90%, like the covid vaccine.
 
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AshG said:
You forget the other side of the desk. Many school systems were either unable or unwilling to provide proper PPE to faculty and staff. Turnover would have skyrocketed.

Thankfully my kids attended a well funded system that got them back in person asap this past fall, but many kids didn't have that option.
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How’d the private schools prevent all the teachers and children from dying?
 
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