Latest Coronavirus - Yikes

[VolinWayne]

Vols gonna ball. No masks gonna break our stride.

Right around 1100 deaths per day total in the US compared to 3200 in January. Keep up the fear mongering

 

[82_VOL_83]

72% fully vaxed.

According to Google

*72.5

 

[hog88]

Why was the card required?

For safety theater.

The same people that support HI's rules for visiting are the same people that support the TSA and believe it has made flying safer.

 

[VolinWayne]

She wasn't required to carry one. She wasn't even required to have been vaccinated to enter Hawaii.

She was trying to avoid the strict quarantine rules which apply to the unvaccinated.

She was "attempting to bypass the state's quarantine requirement by submitting a falsified vaccination card," Yamashiroya said.
To bypass a mandatory 10-day quarantine, travelers must show proof of vaccination or present a negative COVID-19 test taken no more than three days before arrival.



Woman arrested in Hawaii after showing a fake 'Maderna' vaccine card

 

[tntar heel]

It's 2021. You know **** posting is a thing right? Do you also believe the stories on reddit where the guy gives his girlfriend Dogecoin for an engagement ring or I told off a giant of a man at Costco and everyone clapped?

That was just my wife talking to me at Costco using her inside voice!

 

[LouderVol]

The DL is proof of age. It in no way proves the mental or emotional maturity desired in someone purchasing alcohol.
The age requirement was the best solution, but in no way addresses the fact that some 20 year old customers would be far more responsible purchasers of alcohol than many 25, 40, or 60 year old customers.
Just as a vaccine requirement in no way means everyone capable of transmitting COVID will be stopped nor that some who would not transmit COVID will be inconvenienced. It's just the best we can do.

Lol. Competency has no bearing on liability or legality. Bamawriter, who I saw like your post, just made that point to defend the government.

 

[LouderVol]

Isn't that what's being asked for now? Proof of a negative test within 72 hours?

In Hawaii. Hawaii is a long expensive flight from anywhere.

It's a government run scam. Sure you can land here no issue, but you cant leave the airport unless you meet our requirements.

if it was actually about protection you wouldnt want the sick on an airplane with the previously non sick. All those vaxxed, and with negative tests just spent 6 hours bathing in Covid.

 

[bamawriter]

In Hawaii. Hawaii is a long expensive flight from anywhere.

It's a government run scam. Sure you can land here no issue, but you cant leave the airport unless you meet our requirements.

if it was actually about protection you wouldnt want the sick on an airplane with the previously non sick. All those vaxxed, and with negative tests just spent 6 hours bathing in Covid.

The idea would be that everyone would either be vaxxed or have negative test before getting on the plane. It's pretty inconvenient to do otherwise.

 

[hog88]

The idea would be that everyone would either be vaxxed or have negative test before getting on the plane. It's pretty inconvenient to do otherwise.

But being vaxxed or having a 72 hour old test doesn't even come close to ensuring an infected person doesn't get on the plane.

 

[InVOLuntary]

The most interesting part of the story is that this dumbass on Twitter thinks Joe Rogan took a "deworming veterinary drug that the FDA has warned COVID patients against taking."

I swear, I feel like the world is being overrun by idiots that possess a) a low intelligence, b) an apathy towards actual self-driven learning, c) zero critical-thinking ability, and d) a lack of discernment to question anything spoon-fed to their drooling mouths by social media or MSM.

They've always been here. Social media has just exposed them.

 

[LouderVol]

The idea would be that everyone would either be vaxxed or have negative test before getting on the plane. It's pretty inconvenient to do otherwise.

Except the people quarantining....

And that still doesnt do anything to actually protect the flight.

It's all theater so they can enforce their own brand of compliance.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Europe's CDC Breaks With Biden Admin, Says No Urgent Need For COVID Boosters | ZeroHedge

Overnight, Europe's CDC - the Centre for Disease Prevention and Control (ECDC) - said there was no urgent need for booster doses of COVID-19 vaccines for the fully vaccinated, citing data on the effectiveness of shots.

The comments follow a similar statement from the European Medicines Agency last month that more data was needed on the duration of protection after full inoculation to recommend using booster shots.

 

[volinbham]

Europe's CDC Breaks With Biden Admin, Says No Urgent Need For COVID Boosters | ZeroHedge

yes but they aren't trying to deflect from a colossal FP F-up so they can afford to follow the science

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Another thing that should piss everybody off.

Doctors made this political by not treating people with certain drugs. A new virus, no one knows how to treat should result in throwing the kitchen sink at it. That wasn’t the case since the beginning.

Disclaimer - not every doctor

More evidence of what you are saying...

Two Top FDA Officials Resign "In Anger" Over "Intensifying Pressure" To Approve Booster & Shots For Kids Under 12 | ZeroHedge

Because it appears that FDA officials seem to think the agency's approval/buy-in for vaccinations is so important, is has prompted them to resign after decades of working for the FDA.

According to the Yahoo! report, a senior FDA leader said two duo resigned because "they felt that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention was making vaccine decisions that should have been left to the FDA".

The report says:
"The source said the final straw was the Biden administration's announcing the booster-shot plan before the FDA had officially signed off on it."

 

[bamawriter]

But being vaxxed or having a 72 hour old test doesn't even come close to ensuring an infected person doesn't get on the plane.

No. But it's better than having neither.

 

[hog88]

No. But it's better than having neither.

Why? Science says it's marginally better at best.

 

[allvol123]

Europe's CDC Breaks With Biden Admin, Says No Urgent Need For COVID Boosters | ZeroHedge

Trumpers.

 

[bamawriter]

Except the people quarantining....

True. But I think the idea of the quarantine is to motivate people to get vaxxed or get tested.

And that still doesnt do anything to actually protect the flight.

I disagree. It provides no guarantees, but it goes a long way toward keeping the flight safe.

 

[bamawriter]

Why? Science says it's marginally better at best.

I'm not sure I agree. But even giving full credit to your argument, marginally better is still better.

 

[NorthDallas40]

No. But it's better than having neither.

That’s some solid logic right there

 

[bamawriter]

That’s some solid logic right there

It sure beats "they can't guarantee anything so they should just do nothing."

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

No. But it's better than having neither.

I guess that is the logic behind the masks?

"Its better than nothing?"

 

[NorthDallas40]

It sure beats "they can't guarantee anything so they should just do nothing."

What’s really important is that they just did something whether it’s based in science or has any chance of being effective. I’m always in favor of knee jerk arbitrary responses by government

 

[NorthDallas40]

I guess that is the logic behind the masks?

"Its better than nothing?"

Look at the post right above yours

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

It sure beats "they can't guarantee anything so they should just do nothing."

And the alternative you want is that we force people to do something that we know is really ineffective, but we can pat ourselves on the back for at least doing something.