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#105,727
NorthDallas40 said:
What’s really important is that they just did something whether it’s based in science or has any chance of being effective. I’m always in favor of knee jerk arbitrary responses by government
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As long as it's decently effective, I think something is better than nothing. Rarely is anything black or white, or "it's either 100% or it's useless."
 
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bamawriter said:
As long as it's decently effective, I think something is better than nothing. Rarely is anything black or white, or "it's either 100% or it's useless."
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I agree with what you say here.

The problem is that authoritarians and Karens will enforce these things like they are 100% effective. In other words, there really isn't a significant difference in wearing or not wearing a mask. Yet we have got people so fired up about this situation that your effort to "do something rather than nothing" has created a zealot over something that in the grand scheme of things is really trivial.
 
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bamawriter said:
I'm not sure I agree. But even giving full credit to your argument, marginally better is still better.
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It all theater. Even the CDC says you should wait 3 to 5 days after being exposed to get tested so there is a 7 day or more window where that test could be meaningless. Add the fact that vaccinated people can and do spread the infection just how much is that option helping prevent it from getting to HI?
 
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bamawriter said:
As long as it's decently effective, I think something is better than nothing. Rarely is anything black or white, or "it's either 100% or it's useless."
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For me, that's why the maskerauders are like religious zealots. The mask is better than nothing. But it has become the black and white visual symbol of morality with respect to covid. You know what's also better than nothing? Distancing. Hand washing. Being back to back in crowded situations. Being outside in groups rather than inside in groups.
There is so much more to do than wearing masks which are dirty, constantly fondled, and improperly used. But it is 99% of our conversation.
 
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We'll give this power back when the pandemic is over, we promise.
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VolnJC said:
Individual freedom via government mandates
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I get what you’re saying, but individual freedom without some constraint is anarchy. Our freedom does exist within a framework. The constitution is part of that. But there are also societal mores and norms that allow us all to further enjoy the freedoms granted us as Americans. I personally believe vaccinations fall into that category. That getting the vaccine isn’t just about me and my risk and my beliefs. But it does contribute to the continued freedoms of those around me as well. And I’m fine that people disagree.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I agree with what you say here.

The problem is that authoritarians and Karens will enforce these things like they are 100% effective. In other words, there really isn't a significant difference in wearing or not wearing a mask. Yet we have got people so fired up about this situation that your effort to "do something rather than nothing" has created a zealot over something that in the grand scheme of things is really trivial.
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I completely agree with that. But it's not surprising in light of our polarized political system. It's always "my side is completely good/right and their side is completely bad/wrong." Politics is supposed to be the art of the compromise, and no one is willing to give even the slightest inch.
 
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hog88 said:
It all theater. Even the CDC says you should wait 3 to 5 days after being exposed to get tested so there is a 7 day or more window where that test could be meaningless. Add the fact that vaccinated people can and do spread the infection just how much is that option helping prevent it from getting to HI?
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I guess the argument would be that you've at least had a negative result within the last three days, which is better than nothing. Or you're vaccinated and likely have a shorter window in which you'll spread, which is better than nothing.
 
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bamawriter said:
I completely agree with that. But it's not surprising in light of our polarized political system. It's always "my side is completely good/right and their side is completely bad/wrong." Politics is supposed to be the art of the compromise, and no one is willing to give even the slightest inch.
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That definition of politics is what they teach in political science but it’s incorrect. Most phd level poly sci professors can’t even define it correctly. A more correct definition of politics is that politics is the acquisition and implementation of power.
 
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