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I know this has always been nearly impossible for red hats to understand so I'll try to explain it as simply as possible to appease you.

Masks don't really protect the person wearing them, but protect the people around a person who's wearing one.

Therefore a vaccinated person who wears a mask does so they don't infect an unvaccinated person who happens to be in their vicinity.
Your base odds of getting corona while fully vaxxed are 1 in 15M (1/1000 current cases you must encounter and 1/15,000 chance for breakthrough infection). That's baseline. Already we're at some long odds. Unless I've missed the news I've not seen any reports of fully vaccinated people giving the virus to other people. If I'm wrong I'd be happy to see those articles. But for the sake of argument let's say it's possible. We already know the vaccine greatly reduces viral load in the unlikely event you get infected. You have a roughly 50% chance of infecting someone via prolonged close contact in a confined space. A 90% reduction in viral load from the vaccine reduces that value to 5%, 1 in 20. That gives you a 1 in 300M chance of being vaccinated, getting infected, and passing it on to an unvaccinated person you spend a prolonged period with in a confined space. This is also assuming they aren't wearing a mask, and as you've stated they are very effective so the odds would be even higher. You are 100 times more likely to die from a bee sting than for that series of events to happen.
 
Your base odds of getting corona while fully vaxxed are 1 in 15M (1/1000 current cases you must encounter and 1/15,000 chance for breakthrough infection). That's baseline. Already we're at some long odds. Unless I've missed the news I've not seen any reports of fully vaccinated people giving the virus to other people. If I'm wrong I'd be happy to see those articles. But for the sake of argument let's say it's possible. We already know the vaccine greatly reduces viral load in the unlikely event you get infected. You have a roughly 50% chance of infecting someone via prolonged close contact in a confined space. A 90% reduction in viral load from the vaccine reduces that value to 5%, 1 in 20. That gives you a 1 in 300M chance of being vaccinated, getting infected, and passing it on to an unvaccinated person you spend a prolonged period with in a confined space. This is also assuming they aren't wearing a mask, and as you've stated they are very effective so the odds would be even higher. You are 100 times more likely to die from a bee sting than for that series of events to happen.

red hatter

btw, worse odds than winning the Powerball
 
Leave me alone to cling to muh math and figurin.

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Your base odds of getting corona while fully vaxxed are 1 in 15M (1/1000 current cases you must encounter and 1/15,000 chance for breakthrough infection). That's baseline. Already we're at some long odds. Unless I've missed the news I've not seen any reports of fully vaccinated people giving the virus to other people. If I'm wrong I'd be happy to see those articles. But for the sake of argument let's say it's possible. We already know the vaccine greatly reduces viral load in the unlikely event you get infected. You have a roughly 50% chance of infecting someone via prolonged close contact in a confined space. A 90% reduction in viral load from the vaccine reduces that value to 5%, 1 in 20. That gives you a 1 in 300M chance of being vaccinated, getting infected, and passing it on to an unvaccinated person you spend a prolonged period with in a confined space. This is also assuming they aren't wearing a mask, and as you've stated they are very effective so the odds would be even higher. You are 100 times more likely to die from a bee sting than for that series of events to happen.
Thanks for proving my point that vaccines and masks work.
 
where'd you see the mask part?
Your base odds of getting corona while fully vaxxed are 1 in 15M (1/1000 current cases you must encounter and 1/15,000 chance for breakthrough infection). That's baseline. Already we're at some long odds. Unless I've missed the news I've not seen any reports of fully vaccinated people giving the virus to other people. If I'm wrong I'd be happy to see those articles. But for the sake of argument let's say it's possible. We already know the vaccine greatly reduces viral load in the unlikely event you get infected. You have a roughly 50% chance of infecting someone via prolonged close contact in a confined space. A 90% reduction in viral load from the vaccine reduces that value to 5%, 1 in 20. That gives you a 1 in 300M chance of being vaccinated, getting infected, and passing it on to an unvaccinated person you spend a prolonged period with in a confined space. This is also assuming they aren't wearing a mask, and as you've stated they are very effective so the odds would be even higher. You are 100 times more likely to die from a bee sting than for that series of events to happen.
Reading is fundamental
 
It's possible. More and more people are getting vaccinated everyday, and thankfully some of the mask recommendations or mandates are becoming more relaxed. I would imagine that science and facts, not the feelings or red hat values, would dictate Fauci's recommendations.
Indeed that would be your imagination. No new facts, research or anything was cited by Fauci or the CDC for their change in policy. In the future look for facts rather than your imagination
 
Just like in football; some MDs are a hell of a lot better than others....Always check what medical school they attended. That will tell you a hint as to their qualifications.
The person and their character has more to do with the doctor they become than the school they attend.
 
Rna vaccines will alter your dna through transcription. The process of replicating DNA.
This vaccine will become part of every cell you replicate after the injection.
edit: Had transcription backwards my apologies. So it doesn't express on dna.
 
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Rna vaccines will alter your dna through transcription. The process of replicating DNA.
This vaccine will become part of every cell you replicate after the injection.

I was of the understanding that the mRNA from the vaccine never entered the nucleus. It enters cell, ribosome makes spike protein and mRNA fragments are degraded. The spike protein is then presented on cell surface triggering immune response. I haven’t seen that there’s any component of the vaccine that’s capable of inserting it into our DNA like HIV can do.
 
I was of the understanding that the mRNA from the vaccine never entered the nucleus. It enters cell, ribosome makes spike protein and mRNA fragments are defrauded. The spike protein is then presented on cell surface triggering immune response. I haven’t seen that there’s any component of the vaccine that’s capable of inserting it into our DNA like HIV can do.
That’s my understanding as well. I understand the trepidation, but it’s just not possible for mRNA to reverse itself and become part of the cell and replicate like DNA.
 
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That’s my understanding as well. I understand the trepidation, but it’s just not possible for mRNA to reverse itself and become part of the cell and replicate like DNA.
Correct, without the addition of a reverse transcriptase -- an enzyme found in certain retroviruses and used in laboratory settings. I have certainly not seen any evidence that any vaccine contains a RT.
 
Reading is fundamental

Lol - did YOU even read it? You just made yourself look incredibly silly. The whole point was even without wearing a mask the probability is literally astronomically low. The benefit of wearing a mask is effectively nil - so why TF are we still doing it if vaccinated?
 
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I thought this was an interesting article. This group received a $500k grant to administer vaccines, and poked a whopping 36 people total at two sites over a three day period. They used volunteers to do the poking and the vaccine is free so I have to wonder where that $500k went?

While it may not seem like a great distance, for some people just having to drive into town from a rural area is a big deal and is an inconvenience
This is sort of the crux, no? If I have to "drive into town" to get the shot, why am I getting the shot? If I live in the sticks what are the odds I'm encountering sick people or getting sick myself and passing it to others?
 
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I was of the understanding that the mRNA from the vaccine never entered the nucleus. It enters cell, ribosome makes spike protein and mRNA fragments are degraded. The spike protein is then presented on cell surface triggering immune response. I haven’t seen that there’s any component of the vaccine that’s capable of inserting it into our DNA like HIV can do.
I was just coming back in to correct myself with velo.
 
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Rna vaccines will alter your dna through transcription. The process of replicating DNA.
This vaccine will become part of every cell you replicate after the injection.

C'mon now. Let's not be one of those social media sites that spread this sort of thing. There's all sorts of evidence that does not support your statement. Let's base this on science


However, mRNA isn’t the same as DNA, and it can’t combine with our DNA to change our genetic code. It is also relatively fragile, and will only hang around inside a cell for about 72 hours, before being degraded.

Will an mRNA vaccine alter my DNA?

There is no plausible way that mRNA vaccines are going to alter your DNA. It would violate basically everything we know about cell biology.

No, the Moderna and Pfizer RNA vaccines for COVID-19 will not “permanently alter your DNA”
https://www.forbes.com/sites/victor...r/video/can-mrna-vaccines-alter-a-persons-dna
 
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C'mon now. Let's not be one of those social media sites that spread this sort of thing. There's all sorts of evidence that does not support your statement. Let's base this on science




Will an mRNA vaccine alter my DNA?



No, the Moderna and Pfizer RNA vaccines for COVID-19 will not “permanently alter your DNA”
https://www.forbes.com/sites/victor...r/video/can-mrna-vaccines-alter-a-persons-dna

Uh you know the thing about being wrong and coming back into correct your own error. It happens with me but unfortunately before I can correct myself, i get this.
 

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