Laura Loomer banned from Twitter

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evillawyer said:
Yes, that's exactly right. First amendment only applies to government actors. So WH bans Acosta, First Amendment is potentially in play. Twitter bans a loony tune, no First Amendment concerns.
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How is the 1st Amendment at play with Acosta? Can any US citizen get a press pass or are there certain standards that have to be met as well as a code of conduct?

Is press access to the POTUS a fundamental right?
 
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Septic said:
Go crazy. Sue away.

Acosta is apart of the press. 1A permits information, ideas and opinions without interference, constraint or prosecution by the government.
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Good thing you didn't list "access" as one of those items. There is a code of conduct and a selection process that goes on that chooses who has WH access. Someone from Jet Magazine or Tiger Beat should sue based on the fact that CNN and Acosta seem to always be near the front row while the other press members are relegated to the back of the room or not invited at all.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
How is the 1st Amendment at play with Acosta? Can any US citizen get a press pass or are there certain standards that have to be met as well as a code of conduct?

Is press access to the POTUS a fundamental right?
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You're arguing with someone who claims to be a lawyer, but is ignorant of the law.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Explain to me how it works.

If anything, I would argue that the original intent of the 1st Amendment has been corrupted over the last 240 years.
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The government cannot, in general, take adverse action on someone based on the content of that person's speech. But the first amendment only applies to government actors. So Twitter, a nongovernmental entity, can do whatever it wants and not run afoul of the First Amendment.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
How is the 1st Amendment at play with Acosta? Can any US citizen get a press pass or are there certain standards that have to be met as well as a code of conduct?

Is press access to the POTUS a fundamental right?
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The WH doesn't have to make itself available to the press. But once it decides to open its grounds to the press, awards Acosta a press pass and allows him to attend press briefings, it cannot revoke the press pass based on the content of the his reporting.
 
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evillawyer said:
The WH doesn't have to make itself available to the press. But once it decides to open its grounds to the press, awards Acosta a press pass and allows him to attend press briefings, it cannot revoke the press pass based on the content of the his reporting.
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They can however revoke the pass based on his behavior. The WH totally botched the messaging on why and the Judge said mulligan to Acosta on those grounds. Round two will happen shortly and he’ll get pitched again. This time for good.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
Why do you think Twitter hasn't shut down Trump's account? It would send them into freefall.

My favorite dumb argument in this thread was "but it's a publicly traded company!"

The only thing that bothers me more than partisanship is the mental gymnastics required to perpetuate it.
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They haven’t shut down his account because they can’t. It’s part of presidential record and is protected as such.
 
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Say the White House writes a protocol saying a reporter must hand the microphone back to the handler after one question and sit down. Acosta does the same thing again, then they can kick him, because he broke protocol.
 
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evillawyer said:
The government cannot, in general, take adverse action on someone based on the content of that person's speech. But the first amendment only applies to government actors. So Twitter, a nongovernmental entity, can do whatever it wants and not run afoul of the First Amendment.
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I'm not arguing about whether Twitter can ban anyone they want to. I'm wondering how someone who is invited to the WH to ask questions is somehow protected by the 1A to have the invite for perpetuity.
 
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evillawyer said:
The WH doesn't have to make itself available to the press. But once it decides to open its grounds to the press, awards Acosta a press pass and allows him to attend press briefings, it cannot revoke the press pass based on the content of the his reporting.
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Why not?
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
They can however revoke the pass based on his behavior. The WH totally botched the messaging on why and the Judge said mulligan to Acosta on those grounds. Round two will happen shortly and he’ll get pitched again. This time for good.
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Why are they required to give an explanation at all? The video of his actions should be enough.

Or really, if Trump rolls out of bed one morning and decides to block Acosta just because, then what is the problem?

It really isn't this complicated.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Why are they required to give an explanation at all? The video of his actions should be enough.

Or really, if Trump rolls out of bed one morning and decides to block Acosta just because, then what is the problem?

It really isn't this complicated.
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I don’t disagree. I think they should have just said his behavior was the reason and left it at that.

However they kept talking and talking and bungled it.

I find it hard to believe a press pass is the property of the holder and not the issuance agency. And go read the courts ruling. 1a was never brought up. That won’t fly.
 
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