Les Miles Thread

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There are ultimately two categories of college coaches where sex is concerned. Those that can actually bed adult women and get away with it (let's say Kiffin) and those who get fired just for talking (let's say Miles).
 
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CR-vol said:
What's the difference? He's a 60 some years old man in a position of power and authority preying on young 18, 19 and 20 something women. The fact he's not a queer preying on little boys doesn't make it ok. Would you want your daughter (if you have one) around a predator like that?
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Has there been a claim of Miles having sex with students as all I’ve seen is 8 years ago he invited young adult Hostesses to his place (very stupid) and may have kissed one? While it certainly shows a lack of judgement on his part, it doesn’t appear he broke any laws as far as we know. Hard to see how Kansas is going to get out of paying his full contract unless more surfaces.

There’s a lot of colleges taking actions against students and faculty under the guise of title 9 that won’t hold up in court. IMO
 
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Out of every D1 coach, Les Miles would rank last in betting odds of a coach getting involved with extracurricular activities with other women.
 
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walkenvol said:
So every time you showed interest in a lady and she didn’t “want it or like it”, then you committed a fireable offense from your employment?
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He was preying on female employees of the football program. It’s not like he was doing this with employees of the local Wal Mart. They were his subordinates. That is a textbook case of inappropriate office behavior and yes that would lead to a possibility of being fired at most jobs. He was forbidden by the AD from interacting with female interns after the investigation. That fact, to me, makes it clear that some of the interns did not like or want his attention.

The reason he was fired at KU, aside from his terrible record there, was that he did not disclose any of this when he was hired. Employers don’t like being lied to, especially when they’re paying out millions.
 
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VolinMichigan said:
He was preying on female employees of the football program. It’s not like he was doing this with employees of the local Wal Mart. They were his subordinates. That is a textbook case of inappropriate office behavior and yes that would lead to a possibility of being fired at most jobs. He was forbidden by the AD from interacting with female interns after the investigation. That fact, to me, makes it clear that some of the interns did not like or want his attention.

The reason he was fired at KU, aside from his terrible record there, was that he did not disclose any of this when he was hired. Employers don’t like being lied to, especially when they’re paying out millions.
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If they knew he did it and had to take those steps that tells me how desperate some universities are to win.
 
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Dudleys87 said:
If they knew he did it and had to take those steps that tells me how desperate some universities are to win.
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Or to avoid a PR black eye. I think history has shown that it’s better to get out in front of these things instead of trying to sweep it under the rug.
 
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VolinMichigan said:
Or to avoid a PR black eye. I think history has shown that it’s better to get out in front of these things instead of trying to sweep it under the rug.
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if they cared about public image at all they’d have fired everyone on the basketball staff. They thought this wouldn’t be found and stayed the course. Simple as that
 
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Dudleys87 said:
if they cared about public image at all they’d have fired everyone on the basketball staff. They thought this wouldn’t be found and stayed the course. Simple as that
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In the wake of the Larry Nassar and Jerry Sandusky scandals, I think the Schools, BOT, and public at large is not as willing to let sexual assault go unpunished as opposed to bribing college coaches or paying players. I’m not defending LSU here. I think this is going to get much worse for them given the number of assaults/rapes they tried to bury. As for the basketball thing, Sean Miller is getting canned at Arizona very soon after the notice of allegations they received from the NCAA, and I would think LSU will receive a similar notice of allegations and Will Wade will also be out. But who knows. I think schools try and get away with as much as possible while giving the appearance of compliance. Sometimes their bluff is called and sometimes the NCAA drops the ball.
 
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VolinMichigan said:
In the wake of the Larry Nassar and Jerry Sandusky scandals, I think the Schools, BOT, and public at large is not as willing to let sexual assault go unpunished as opposed to bribing college coaches or paying players. I’m not defending LSU here. I think this is going to get much worse for them given the number of assaults/rapes they tried to bury. As for the basketball thing, Sean Miller is getting canned at Arizona very soon after the notice of allegations they received from the NCAA, and I would think LSU will receive a similar notice of allegations and Will Wade will also be out. But who knows. I think schools try and get away with as much as possible while giving the appearance of compliance. Sometimes their bluff is called and sometimes the NCAA drops the ball.
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I hope so.
Clean up the sports and let the chips fall where they will.
 
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Firebirdparts said:
There are ultimately two categories of college coaches where sex is concerned. Those that can actually bed adult women and get away with it (let's say Kiffin) and those who get fired just for talking (let's say Miles).
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Where would Bobby Petrino fall? Or is there an alternative "Had sex with a hot young chick, but crashed a motorcycle with her and got caught" category?
 
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VolinMichigan said:
He was preying on female employees of the football program. It’s not like he was doing this with employees of the local Wal Mart. They were his subordinates. That is a textbook case of inappropriate office behavior and yes that would lead to a possibility of being fired at most jobs. He was forbidden by the AD from interacting with female interns after the investigation. That fact, to me, makes it clear that some of the interns did not like or want his attention.

The reason he was fired at KU, aside from his terrible record there, was that he did not disclose any of this when he was hired. Employers don’t like being lied to, especially when they’re paying out millions.
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So the AD doesn’t vet the coaches being hired, instead the expectation is for applicants to tell any stupid thing they may have done in their life even though it didn’t lead to an arrest, a firing, or a law suit?

I say KU will have to pay Les his full contract
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Where would Bobby Petrino fall? Or is there an alternative "Had sex with a hot young chick, but crashed a motorcycle with her and got caught" category?
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I was wondering that myself when I posted. I guess they in the middle, just like all us ordinary married folks, except these guys have a sort of morality clause counterbalancing their $4 million/year salary. It seems like when one of them gets caught, they kinda go out in a blaze of glory. Mike Price has to be the funniest one.
 
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walkenvol said:
So every time you showed interest in a lady and she didn’t “want it or like it”, then you committed a fireable offense from your employment?
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Well lets think with some logic here for a second. These ladies were employees of the football program, most of which are in or fresh out of college. For kicks and giggles lets say a few have been out of college for a few years and are 30 ish. I dont know any 30 year olds who want 60+ year old men flirting with them. Secondly lets say Les did it once and she said no, then he does it a second and third time, by definition that is harassment. If you have become such a bad and repeat offender that you cannot be in the same room as these ladies without supervision then yes youve committed enough instances of harassment that it is a fireable offense.

To sum it all up. Yes anytime you are making an unwanted advance in the workplace you are opening yourself up to harassment penalties. Even more so if you are the superior.
 
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mr.checkerboards said:
Well lets think with some logic here for a second. These ladies were employees of the football program, most of which are in or fresh out of college. For kicks and giggles lets say a few have been out of college for a few years and are 30 ish. I dont know any 30 year olds who want 60+ year old men flirting with them. Secondly lets say Les did it once and she said no, then he does it a second and third time, by definition that is harassment. If you have become such a bad and repeat offender that you cannot be in the same room as these ladies without supervision then yes youve committed enough instances of harassment that it is a fireable offense.

To sum it all up. Yes anytime you are making an unwanted advance in the workplace you are opening yourself up to harassment penalties. Even more so if you are the superior.
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Plenty of 30 something year olds are interested in rich famous 60 something year old men
 
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