Let the Whining Officially Commence!

#26
#26
surrealvol said:
Hey lawgator1...congratulations, dude...now your guys have to win this one and bring the NC to the SEC...

As far as Michigan whining...they had their NC game a few weeks ago and came up short...end of story...they didn't win their conference...they did not play as tough a schedule...and they didn't win WHEN THEY HAD THEIR CHANCE...so they need to shut up, quit whining, and move on...life is tough...you get your chance...you have to take advantage of it...they didn't...so it's now a no-brainer as far as I am concerned...GO GATORS in the NC game...
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:rock: :rock:
 
#27
#27
One friggin point......

...Go Gators.

Now.......where is that bottle of jack.
 
#29
#29
lawgator1 said:
And he's wrong. Flroida did not go in 1996 to the NT game in the "same exact scenario" as we have this year. After Florida lost to FSU that year, Florida went on to win the SEC championship.

The fact that Florida wormed its way back into the game in '96 BY WINNING the conference is a fairly significant difference, in my opinion.
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More important than the fact that Florida won the SEC championship that year is the fact that Florida dropped in the polls after its loss to Florida State, and the only reason that Florida was able to work its way back into consideration for the national championship was because the other teams that were ranked above Florida lost games and dropped back. Michigan lost to Ohio State and didn't drop a single spot in the BCS rankings. That has never happened in the history of college football and it occurred this year ONLY due to the fact that the media openly campaigned in a HUGE way for Michigan to remain #2 in the polls after Michigan's loss to Ohio State and prior to the new polls being released.
 
#30
#30
Vol423 said:
How the hell does this idiot equate a one-loss Michigan team getting passed over for the national championship game to an undefeated Auburn team that won the toughest conference in college football getting left out of the national championship game? Note to Wojciechowski - GET A DAMN CLUE!
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It is basically the same thing. Then there were 3 teams that were undefeated. OU was from the Big 12 which was strong that year. Auburn had a claim but if they were chosen then OU would have a claim too.

Same thing here. 2 teams that each have a claim, 1 gets chosen and the other is left out.

Maybe UF is the better team but the situations certainly are analogous.
 
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#31
volinbham said:
It is basically the same thing. Then there were 3 teams that were undefeated. OU was from the Big 12 which was strong that year. Auburn had a claim but if they were chosen then OU would have a claim too.

Same thing here. 2 teams that each have a claim, 1 gets chosen and the other is left out.

Maybe UF is the better team but the situations certainly are analogous.
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Navigating the big 10 with one loss is not that hard. Wisconsin proved that. Auburn beat quite a few big time teams in 2004.
 
#33
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volinbham said:
It is basically the same thing. Then there were 3 teams that were undefeated. OU was from the Big 12 which was strong that year. Auburn had a claim but if they were chosen then OU would have a claim too.

Same thing here. 2 teams that each have a claim, 1 gets chosen and the other is left out.

Maybe UF is the better team but the situations certainly are analogous.
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No it isn't. Auburn was undefeated. Nobody could look at Auburn and say, "You know what? They had a chance to do more, but they lost that game to Ohio State." Auburn also went undefeated in the toughest conference in the nation. That's not the case with Michigan.

Florida and Michigan are in somewhat analogous situations this year. I think that Florida was more deserving of a national title shot than Michigan, but the truth of the matter is that they both lost a game, and therefore, put themselves at the mercy of our screwed up system. Auburn was undefeated. They won the toughest conference in college football. There was absolutely NOTHING that they could have done better. Neither Florida nor Michigan are in a situation analogous to Auburn.
 
#34
#34
tidwell said:
That's still amazing to me.
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Remember when USC barely beat Notre Dame last year and Herbstreet was calling for ND to go up in the rankings? If you lose, you should move down at least one spot, unless everyone behind you also loses.
 
#35
#35
Everyone says the same thing. Bring us a playoff.

Ever other college or professional sport decides its champion based on a tournament or playoff except college football. They can make a playoff work in the NFL or in Div 11 football, but they cant make that sytem work at the Div 1 level?

Greed and politics are trying to ruin college football. Texas one year removed from winning the NC with a 9-3 record and top 20 ranking are playing 6-6 Iowa in a bowl game. Basically being penalized for winning the NC last year because bowls dont think they will travel well. The system is about one thing, enriching the people who created the bowls.
 
#36
#36
kptvol said:
Remember when USC barely beat Notre Dame last year and Herbstreet was calling for ND to go up in the rankings? If you lose, you should move down at least one spot, unless everyone behind you also loses.
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The "style points" epidemic, even in losses, is getting a bit out of control...
 
#37
#37
oklavol said:
Everyone says the same thing. Bring us a playoff.

Ever other college or professional sport decides its champion based on a tournament or playoff except college football. They can make a playoff work in the NFL or in Div 11 football, but they cant make that sytem work at the Div 1 level?

Greed and politics are trying to ruin college football. Texas one year removed from winning the NC with a 9-3 record and top 20 ranking are playing 6-6 Iowa in a bowl game. Basically being penalized for winning the NC last year because bowls dont think they will travel well. The system is about one thing, enriching the people who created the bowls.
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It's hard to feel too bad for Texas. I mean, they do suck this year.
 
#38
#38
Ahhhh ! ya'll are new to Carr and Meatchicken whining..It never ends...Looking forward to a great Bowl game and no injuries...:yes: P.S. I'm a Penn State Alum by choice a Southerner by birth..
 
#39
#39
lawgator1 said:
By the way, the game is on my birthday.
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Happy early birthday. Sorry to say, LG, but if I had a vote, I would have cast it for Michigan, mainly due to the fact that I watched the SC and Vandy games in their entirety. However, I can certainly understand why it worked out like it did.

milohimself said:
Wojciechowski always seems to be pissed about something. Let it go.
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I wonder how many times you had to look at the name "Wojciechowski" to make sure you spelled it correctly. I'll bet that kid was in the seventh grade before he could write it.
 
#40
#40
oklavol said:
Everyone says the same thing. Bring us a playoff.

Ever other college or professional sport decides its champion based on a tournament or playoff except college football. They can make a playoff work in the NFL or in Div 11 football, but they cant make that sytem work at the Div 1 level?

Greed and politics are trying to ruin college football. Texas one year removed from winning the NC with a 9-3 record and top 20 ranking are playing 6-6 Iowa in a bowl game. Basically being penalized for winning the NC last year because bowls dont think they will travel well. The system is about one thing, enriching the people who created the bowls.
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Apparently college football was ruined 100 years ago or so when bowls first came into being. Give me a break.
 
#41
#41
Michigan had their chance. They didn't capitlalize on it, Florida shouldn't fall victim just because they didn't.

Bring that trophy back to the SEC.

Go Gators :crazy: :whistling:
 
#42
#42
I don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but to me this is real simple, if you don't win your conference title, you shouldn't be eligible to play for the NC.

That said, it should be required that the BCS conferences have title games.
 
#43
#43
Volunteer_Kirby said:
Michigan had their chance. They didn't capitlalize on it, Florida shouldn't fall victim just because they didn't.
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Florida had their chance to go undefeated - they didn't. Michigan lost to the #1 team in the country.

MG1968 said:
I don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but to me this is real simple, if you don't win your conference title, you shouldn't be eligible to play for the NC.
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Not part of the formula now. Didn't hold true for OU a few years back.
 
#44
#44
volinbham said:
Florida had their chance to go undefeated - they didn't. Michigan lost to the #1 team in the country.

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Michigan had their chance to go undefeated as well, and they didn't. In fact they had a clearer shot to the NT game as anyone and they blew it.
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#45
#45
Vol423 said:
I loved the part near the end of the story where the writer claimed that the Vanderbilt coaching staff (who played both Michigan and Florida) told him, privately of course, that Michigan is the better team between Michigan and Florida.

Notice that he didn't quote any of the Vanderbilt coaches, but he notes that they told him this privately. Why do I get the feeling that this writer is making this crap up? If it was supposed to be off the record, then he shouldn't have mentioned it at all. If it was on the record, then why didn't he quote them directly? This is yet another example of the piss poor writing and commentary offered by ESPN.
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Considering the fact that Michigan beat Vandy by 20 and Florida beat Vandy by 6, do you honestly believe that Vandy's staff feels Florida is the better team???
 
#46
#46
allvol123 said:
Michigan had their chance to go undefeated as well, and they didn't. In fact they had a clearer shot to the NT game as anyone and they blew it.
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Exactly, so compare the resumes. Michigan's loss came by 3 points to the #1 team in the country. Florida lost by 10 to the Cotton Bowl rep from the SEC...
 
#47
#47
therealUT said:
Exactly, so compare the resumes. Michigan's loss came by 3 points to the #1 team in the country. Florida lost by 10 to the Cotton Bowl rep from the SEC...
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If you are comparing resumes, compare number of wins versus top 25 teams while you are at it.
 
#50
#50
allvol123 said:
I'll take that as you understand UF has more quality wins, so you just decided to get silly.
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I'll take it as Florida had a chance to schedule a quality non conference opponent and passed, opting instead for a 2-9 I-AA team!

Also, Michigan beat Wisconsin and Notre Dame. I would say those quality wins are better than LSU and Arkansas (translation: Tennessee and UGA are not quality wins).
 
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