Lets all get behind our Lady Vols

[Smallvol#1]

I never mentioned dementia. Bill Guthridge was an assistant for 30 years under Dean Smith. Sound familiar? He lead the Heels to 2 Final Fours in 3 years in his first HC job. Why would you not compare men's basketball to women's?? Coaching is coaching. Court is the same, 10 players, same length of game, 3 point line is the same distance. You just can't admit CHW has been a major disappointment and we are a "shell" of our past glory.

I was responding to Darth, and he did mention dementia in his response to your post. I guess it was a bad assumption on both our parts. The only thing comparable is each assistant had @30 years; rule out each head coach (at some point) is diagnosed with dementia and there is no other comparison to the team circumstances. If you can't figure out the women's game is different from the men's.... As to "admitting", I freely admit CHW coached the SEC regular season winner one year and the SECT winner the next. I also would be surprised if she does either this year. I won't blame it on coaching though.

 

[jkleno]

Why would anyone who has any common sense "admit" that Holly has been a major disappointment, when she has actually done (and continues to do) a fantastic job? I'm certainly not stupid enough to "admit" such a thing. Why do you expect that Holly's career trajectory would directly mirror Guthridge's? That's asinine. Just because things worked out one way for Guthridge doesn't automatically mean things are going to work out exactly the same way for Holly. The fact is, Holly inherited a program already in decline; that "shell" you talk about had already started to harden before she took over. She's righted the ship, cracked that shell, and continues to improve. I'm really not sure what you want, or what you expect, but whatever it is, I don't think it can be located anywhere in the real world.

You're ridiculous.

Are you serious??? You have to be one of the most delusional posters ever. Pat Summitt left us with ship that had to be "righted" by Hollie Warlick. Are you freakin serious? Serious?
07- Nat Champs
08- Nat Champs
09- 1st round exit
10- Sweet 16
11- Elite 8
12- Elite 8

The "decline?" Are you serious? And thank goodness the miraculous Hollie stepped in to take over this declining program. "righted" ship and declining program should never be written or spoken about Coach Summitt you Hollie "homer."

 

[jkleno]

The bottom line is that I would love for CHW to do well. I just see us losing out on the top players where we once did not. I see us not being able to compete with UConn when we once could. I admit she is just 3 years into her head coaching and she could still do great things. I would love for her to. I miss when we were dominant and the point I was attempting to make is that we are a long way from where we once were. It is not all CHW fault. 2 more years from now we need to have a team that can compete with UConn. If we don't, then I think a change will come. I hope not though.

 

[ivyleague]

Are you serious??? You have to be one of the most delusional posters ever. Pat Summitt left us with ship that had to be "righted" by Hollie Warlick. Are you freakin serious? Serious?
07- Nat Champs
08- Nat Champs
09- 1st round exit
10- Sweet 16
11- Elite 8
12- Elite 8

The "decline?" Are you serious? And thank goodness the miraculous Hollie stepped in to take over this declining program. "righted" ship and declining program should never be written or spoken about Coach Summitt you Hollie "homer."

Look at who can't admit to the facts staring him in the face. Pat Summitt was one of the greatest of all time in terms of coaching. There's absolutely no doubt about that. However, you want to make it out as if the program has declined under Holly, and that is absolutely not the case. When Holly took over, the Lady Vols hadn't been to a Final Four in four years. Holly is working hard to keep the program on track and is doing a phenomenal job so far. Her recruiting has been more than solid, and despite a spate of team injuries, her teams have advanced well into the NCAA tournament for the past two years, won an SEC tournament championship, an SEC regular season championship, and this year's team is currently 23-3 for this season with a perfect in-conference record. So I'm not sure what the hell you're on about. If you want to b**** about Holly not getting the team to a Final Four (which, by the way, is a full team effort, not something that is entirely on the shoulders of the head coach), you better go back about four years before she was named head coach and start your b****ing there.

And at the end of the day, it's pretty damn hard to take you seriously when you can't even spell the head coach's name correctly.

 

[Ladyvolfan4ever]

The bottom line is that I would love for CHW to do well. I just see us losing out on the top players where we once did not. I see us not being able to compete with UConn when we once could. I admit she is just 3 years into her head coaching and she could still do great things. I would love for her to. I miss when we were dominant and the point I was attempting to make is that we are a long way from where we once were. It is not all CHW fault. 2 more years from now we need to have a team that can compete with UConn. If we don't, then I think a change will come. I hope not though.

NOBODY can keep pace with UCONN. It's too bad but true. One day Geno will get his.

 

[volnationnj]

NOBODY can keep pace with UCONN. It's too bad but true. One day Geno will get his.

Yes, that's true. The question is, will it be Tennessee that's waiting to wear the crown or will it be someone else ?
Pat didn't win a NCAA championship in her last 4 years but she did win 8 before that. Holly will be 0 for 3 if she doesn't win this year and it's a distinct possibility that we won't win either the SEC regular season or the SEC tournament this year. If that does happen would you then say that the program is regressing ?

 

[ivyleague]

Yes, that's true. The question is, will it be Tennessee that's waiting to wear the crown or will it be someone else ?
Pat didn't win a NCAA championship in her last 4 years but she did win 8 before that. Holly will be 0 for 3 if she doesn't win this year and it's a distinct possibility that we won't win either the SEC regular season or the SEC tournament this year. If that does happen would you then say that the program is regressing ?

No. I would say that's a sign of other teams progressing to the place where Tennessee already stands. It's called parity. The fact is, the NCAA championship this year is UConn's for the taking. I'm not sure anyone can compete with them this year. That's no reflection on Holly, any more than it is a reflection on 350 other Division 1 coaches not named Geno Auriemma. Tennessee will now be playing the remainder of this season without its best player and team leader (while also missing Russell and Jones, who would have been eligible had they not been injured). If Tennessee does not win a conference or SEC tournament championship, again, that is no reflection on Holly. She's gotten one of each during her first two seasons as head coach; this year, she and her team are swimming against the tide, through no fault of Holly's.

 

[Darth_Vol]

Quote:
"You might want to better your basketball IQ. Do you even know who Bill Guthridge is??? He was an assistant to Dean Smith for 30 years and became the head coach when Dean abruptly retired. Do you know who Dean Smith is? Bill took UNC to the Final Four in 2 out of his 3 years. Doesn't that seem like a similar situation to what Holly stepped into?"

I do not find the above a relevant, well reasoned, or pertinent argument. JMO.

I'm not going to try to make his argument for him, I just advised him to save time using men's basketball references to someone who obviously follows the sport very little. As for the tone of his argument, I'm shocked and appalled. I can't imagine what someone who is always so accepting of differing opinions could have said to elicit such a snarky response.

Dean Smith was the iconic face of a national power, an ambassador, greatly respected by peers, rivals, and fans. He helped shape college basketball into what it is today, and was the winningest coach in the game when he retired. If you don't see the parallels or find them completely irrelevant that's fine. I found it interesting. If you hadn't noticed, there isn't a lot of precedent to draw upon....

 

[Darth_Vol]

NOBODY can keep pace with UCONN. It's too bad but true. One day Geno will get his.

Except that time when Pat did. For now, how about keeping pace with the Notre Dames and Stanfords, who are reaching the Final Four more often than not these days....?

 

[madtownvol]

In this thread, there seems to be one glaring omission. CPS and Lv's championship drought from 1998 to 2007. Effectively,this spell lasted from Holdsclaw's senior year (and the shocking loss to Duke) to CP3's redshirt sophomore season). During those 8 years, Uconn won 4 titles (with the others going to Purdue, Baylor, ND, and Maryland).

So, one can say that there have been periods before where the LVs have fallen behind Uconn in the competitive rankings of WCBB. The big difference between this latest drought (which also began under CPS) is the lack of final four appearances.

Had Izzy not gone down, they had a great chance to return to the final four. It will definitely be a tougher road now but in conjunction with the absences of Russell, Jones, and Tucker, I don't think too much blame can be placed on Holly if the LVs don't make it to the final four this season.

 

[volnationnj]

No. I would say that's a sign of other teams progressing to the place where Tennessee already stands. It's called parity. The fact is, the NCAA championship this year is UConn's for the taking. I'm not sure anyone can compete with them this year. That's no reflection on Holly, any more than it is a reflection on 350 other Division 1 coaches not named Geno Auriemma. Tennessee will now be playing the remainder of this season without its best player and team leader (while also missing Russell and Jones, who would have been eligible had they not been injured). If Tennessee does not win a conference or SEC tournament championship, again, that is no reflection on Holly. She's gotten one of each during her first two seasons as head coach; this year, she and her team are swimming against the tide, through no fault of Holly's.

We have been hit exceptionally hard with injuries and that should be taken into account when assessing Holly's
effectiveness as a head coach. However, I have to disagree with you on the parity issue. UConn is now where we use to be. One loss this year and as you said "The fact is, the NCAA championship this year is UConn's for the taking." 40-0 last year and a NCAA championship. The year before, a NCAA championship. That's parity ?
That's where the LV's should be. That should be our goal.

 

[ivyleague]

We have been hit exceptionally hard with injuries and that should be taken into account when assessing Holly's
effectiveness as a head coach. However, I have to disagree with you on the parity issue. UConn is now where we use to be. One loss this year and as you said "The fact is, the NCAA championship this year is UConn's for the taking." 40-0 last year and a NCAA championship. The year before, a NCAA championship. That's parity ?
That's where the LV's should be. That should be our goal.

I didn't say that shouldn't be the goal. There is, however, FAR more parity in 2015 than there was even ten years ago. To deny that is to deny reality. UConn is at the top of the game right now, but things like this tend to go in cycles. Years ago, Tennessee was at the top, and everyone else was playing catch-up. Now, UConn is there, with the primary difference now being that there are many more very, very good, elite teams (of which Tennessee is still one) in the sport now than there were when Tennessee was at the top. Unless UConn can get out of the awful conference that it is in, it's quite likely their program will start to trend downward, maybe not within the next year or two, but soon.

 

[volnationnj]

I didn't say that shouldn't be the goal. There is, however, FAR more parity in 2015 than there was even ten years ago. To deny that is to deny reality. UConn is at the top of the game right now, but things like this tend to go in cycles. Years ago, Tennessee was at the top, and everyone else was playing catch-up. Now, UConn is there, with the primary difference now being that there are many more very, very good, elite teams (of which Tennessee is still one) in the sport now than there were when Tennessee was at the top. Unless UConn can get out of the awful conference that it is in, it's quite likely their program will start to trend downward, maybe not within the next year or two, but soon.

I won't deny reality once it's shown to me. Here are the teams in the NCAA finals in 6 years increments.
6 different teams in this 6 year period.

2009 Connecticut 76–54 Louisville
2010 Connecticut 53–47 Stanford
2011 Texas A&M 76–70 Notre Dame
2012 Baylor 80–61 Notre Dame
2013 Connecticut 93–60 Louisville
2014 Connecticut 79-58 Notre Dame

The 6 years before that. 8 different teams in this 6 year period.

2003 Connecticut 73–68 Tennessee
2004 Connecticut 70–61 Tennessee
2005 Baylor 84–62 Michigan State
2006 Maryland 78–75 (OT) Duke
2007 Tennessee 59–46 Rutgers
2008 Tennessee 64–48 Stanford

The 6 years before that. 8 different teams in this 6 year period.

1997 Tennessee 68–59 Old Dominion
1998 Tennessee 93–75 Louisiana Tech
1999 Purdue 62–45 Duke
2000 Connecticut 71–52 Tennessee
2001 Notre Dame68–66 Purdue
2002 Connecticut 82–70 Oklahoma

Could you point me to the time period where there was more parity than the others ? It seems to me that there is very little difference among them.

 

[ivyleague]

I won't deny reality once it's shown to me. Here are the teams in the NCAA finals in 6 years increments.
6 different teams in this 6 year period.

2009 Connecticut 76–54 Louisville
2010 Connecticut 53–47 Stanford
2011 Texas A&M 76–70 Notre Dame
2012 Baylor 80–61 Notre Dame
2013 Connecticut 93–60 Louisville
2014 Connecticut 79-58 Notre Dame

The 6 years before that. 8 different teams in this 6 year period.

2003 Connecticut 73–68 Tennessee
2004 Connecticut 70–61 Tennessee
2005 Baylor 84–62 Michigan State
2006 Maryland 78–75 (OT) Duke
2007 Tennessee 59–46 Rutgers
2008 Tennessee 64–48 Stanford

The 6 years before that. 8 different teams in this 6 year period.

1997 Tennessee 68–59 Old Dominion
1998 Tennessee 93–75 Louisiana Tech
1999 Purdue 62–45 Duke
2000 Connecticut 71–52 Tennessee
2001 Notre Dame68–66 Purdue
2002 Connecticut 82–70 Oklahoma

Could you point me to the time period where there was more parity than the others ? It seems to me that there is very little difference among them.

There is more parity in the sport NOW than there has ever been, and that isn't just calculated on who has been in NCAA tournament finals. Tennessee hasn't had the same level of success as UConn lately, but you're insane if you think Tennessee isn't still an elite team. So the question is, leaving all generalities aside, what, exactly, do you want?

 

[volnationnj]

"There is more parity in the sport NOW than there has ever been" The only thing that I want is for you to provide me with some evidence of this. I never said nor intimated that Tennessee wasn't still an elite team. Why you would bring that into the conversation is baffling. My point was that there isn't anymore parity in the game now as there wasn't when the LV's were in the finals almost every year. The difference is now it's UConn on top and everybody is chasing them. Come to think of it, there is one more thing that I want. I want Tennessee to return to their former glory. Is that asking too much ?

 

[LasVegasBill23]

For my money there NEVER has been parity in the women's game..... It has been ruled by the top 2 or 3 teams holding the cards that particular year..... It is not really an upset to knock off #4 or #7 unlike in the men's game..... Can Tennessee claim its previous place on the mantle..... absolutely..... let it start tonight!!

 

[volnationnj]

For my money there NEVER has been parity in the women's game..... It has been ruled by the top 2 or 3 teams holding the cards that particular year..... It is not really an upset to knock off #4 or #7 unlike in the men's game..... Can Tennessee claim its previous place on the mantle..... absolutely..... let it start tonight!!

Agreed. That was my whole point. Also agree with starting tonight. Go LV's !

 

[jkleno]

Look at who can't admit to the facts staring him in the face. Pat Summitt was one of the greatest of all time in terms of coaching. There's absolutely no doubt about that. However, you want to make it out as if the program has declined under Holly, and that is absolutely not the case. When Holly took over, the Lady Vols hadn't been to a Final Four in four years. Holly is working hard to keep the program on track and is doing a phenomenal job so far. Her recruiting has been more than solid, and despite a spate of team injuries, her teams have advanced well into the NCAA tournament for the past two years, won an SEC tournament championship, an SEC regular season championship, and this year's team is currently 23-3 for this season with a perfect in-conference record. So I'm not sure what the hell you're on about. If you want to b**** about Holly not getting the team to a Final Four (which, by the way, is a full team effort, not something that is entirely on the shoulders of the head coach), you better go back about four years before she was named head coach and start your b****ing there.

And at the end of the day, it's pretty damn hard to take you seriously when you can't even spell the head coach's name correctly.

I see 2 National Championships and 2 Elite Eights in CPS' last 6 years. I see 1 Sweet 16 and 1 Elite Eight in CHW 1st 2 years. Ship "uprighting" is not the correct description. I am going to concede to your points about CHW and give her this year and next to prove her value.

 

[ivyleague]

I see 2 National Championships and 2 Elite Eights in CPS' last 6 years. I see 1 Sweet 16 and 1 Elite Eight in CHW 1st 2 years. Ship "uprighting" is not the correct description. I am going to concede to your points about CHW and give her this year and next to prove her value.

So you are comparing what one coach has done in her first two years to what a 38 year veteran coach did in her last six? Seriously? And, for what it's worth, it isn't up to you to "give" Holly anything; I'm sure she really couldn't care less about what your opinion is of her value. At the end of the day, your opinion doesn't matter or count for anything.

 

[governmentmule]

There is more parity in the sport NOW than there has ever been, and that isn't just calculated on who has been in NCAA tournament finals. Tennessee hasn't had the same level of success as UConn lately, but you're insane if you think Tennessee isn't still an elite team. So the question is, leaving all generalities aside, what, exactly, do you want?

I want coach Holly Warlick to win a national championship for coach Pat Summitt and all the legend has done for womens basketball,other than that,not a whole lot


and yes Tn is an elite program mired in the top 10,it has has all been about injuries

Ariel last year,Russell,this year Jones,Izzy just think if those players were healthy,wouldn't you like there run in the Tourney ?

you would love it with Russell ,Jones and Izzy playing

of course it is all ways what if

 

[jkleno]

So you are comparing what one coach has done in her first two years to what a 38 year veteran coach did in her last six? Seriously? And, for what it's worth, it isn't up to you to "give" Holly anything; I'm sure she really couldn't care less about what your opinion is of her value. At the end of the day, your opinion doesn't matter or count for anything.

This is a forum, my opinion does matter! HA. You are way too emotional about this situation. You can post what you want, but unless "Hollie" has a big run in the NCAA this year or next year, she will be adios. You can't give someone 3 years (4 years after next year) and all of a sudden our program is "happy" to compete against South Carolina. "Happy"- really??? Sorry, I am not "happy" about losing.
PS. I am sure you will respond about how great USCe is and all and we should be happy about competing. And I am sure Pete Carroll told his team the same thing in the SB.

 

[ivyleague]

This is a forum, my opinion does matter!

This is a forum, but your opinion still only matters to you. So . . .

HA. You are way too emotional about this situation.

Give me a break. I'M too emotional? LOLOLOL I'm not the one who is insinuating that someone who is, by all accounts, an outstanding third-year coach be fired because a small group of whiny, entitled fans are devastated that their team hasn't won a national championship in six years. You and those like you are unreasonable, and that unreasonableness is borne of the fact that you get too worked up over a basketball game.

You can post what you want, but unless "Hollie" has a big run in the NCAA this year or next year, she will be adios.

So you purposely misspell her name . . . for what purpose? That's a sign that you're either immature or you're stupid, and quite likely, you're both. And I'm sorry, her team could lose in the first round and she wouldn't be going anywhere. Yes, I said her TEAM could lose. Holly hasn't played in a collegiate game in more than 30 years. Regardless of what a certain segment of a**hole fans believe, wins and losses aren't entirely on a coach's shoulders. There are accolades for everyone after a win, and blame to go around after a loss. (And the loss to South Carolina was nothing to be ashamed of . . . the team played a hell of a game and Holly coached a hell of a game. The only "blame" should be directed toward injuries.)

You can't give someone 3 years (4 years after next year) and all of a sudden our program is "happy" to compete against South Carolina. "Happy"- really???

According to rankings, South Carolina is considered the #2 team in the country. Personally, I'm not completely in agreement with that ranking, but they are certainly a solid top-10, even top-5 team. I'm sure most programs would be happy to compete with them. Tennessee has been riddled with injuries; without those injuries, or at home, Tennessee would likely have won this game. Most reasonable people (you obviously aren't one of them) could see that Holly outcoached Dawn Staley by a mile during that game, and had her team been healthy, Tennessee would have won.

Sorry, I am not "happy" about losing.

I don't care what you aren't happy about. You are as irrelevant to me as a spec of dust.

PS. I am sure you will respond about how great USCe is and all and we should be happy about competing. And I am sure Pete Carroll told his team the same thing in the SB.

No, I'll respond by telling you that I'm convinced you are moderately intellectually deficient and I feel sorry for you.

 

[ivyleague]

"There is more parity in the sport NOW than there has ever been" The only thing that I want is for you to provide me with some evidence of this. I never said nor intimated that Tennessee wasn't still an elite team. Why you would bring that into the conversation is baffling. My point was that there isn't anymore parity in the game now as there wasn't when the LV's were in the finals almost every year. The difference is now it's UConn on top and everybody is chasing them. Come to think of it, there is one more thing that I want. I want Tennessee to return to their former glory. Is that asking too much ?

When Tennessee was at the very top, there were certainly other competitive outliers, teams that would rise up and give the Lady Vols a run for their money. There were teams that would have solid seasons and solid runs in the NCAA tournament, and frequently these teams would even beat Tennessee (or UConn) for a Final Four spot or for the championship title. Here's the difference between then and now that you aren't quite seeing -- now, there are more teams that are CONSISTENTLY considered elite. Fifteen or twenty ears ago, a team might have a phenomenal season or two and then drop back into mediocrity. There was no real consistency outside of Tennessee, UConn, and perhaps a couple of others. Today, there are any number of teams that can consistently be counted on to perform at the top of the game, every year. That is parity. UConn certainly leads the pack now, but as a relatively weak Stanford team proved earlier in the season, they aren't unbeatable. You can observe parity in the fact that the top recruits aren't all piling into the same one or two schools every year -- they have more options. Again, that is parity. Even unranked teams frequently pull upsets (Sunday saw four ranked women's teams lose to unranked teams -- Duke lost to NC State, Rutgers lost to Michigan State, Stanford lost to USC, and JMU lost to Hofstra. Last night, Oklahoma beat Baylor.)

Women's basketball has changed -- for the better. There is, across the board, a higher level of play and more teams that can play at that level. As a result, there are more "elite" teams and there are more very, very good teams that might not be considered elite, but that can beat an elite team on any given night. That's why you're not going to see a return of the "glory days" that you so want. UConn is ahead of the pack, to some extent, but you also must take into account that they play in an incredibly weak conference. If they had to play in the ACC, SEC, or Pac-12, I'm betting they wouldn't be quite as unstoppable as they appear right now.

 

[volnationnj]

When Tennessee was at the very top, there were certainly other competitive outliers, teams that would rise up and give the Lady Vols a run for their money. There were teams that would have solid seasons and solid runs in the NCAA tournament, and frequently these teams would even beat Tennessee (or UConn) for a Final Four spot or for the championship title. Here's the difference between then and now that you aren't quite seeing -- now, there are more teams that are CONSISTENTLY considered elite. Fifteen or twenty ears ago, a team might have a phenomenal season or two and then drop back into mediocrity. There was no real consistency outside of Tennessee, UConn, and perhaps a couple of others. Today, there are any number of teams that can consistently be counted on to perform at the top of the game, every year. That is parity. UConn certainly leads the pack now, but as a relatively weak Stanford team proved earlier in the season, they aren't unbeatable. You can observe parity in the fact that the top recruits aren't all piling into the same one or two schools every year -- they have more options. Again, that is parity. Even unranked teams frequently pull upsets (Sunday saw four ranked women's teams lose to unranked teams -- Duke lost to NC State, Rutgers lost to Michigan State, Stanford lost to USC, and JMU lost to Hofstra. Last night, Oklahoma beat Baylor.)

Women's basketball has changed -- for the better. There is, across the board, a higher level of play and more teams that can play at that level. As a result, there are more "elite" teams and there are more very, very good teams that might not be considered elite, but that can beat an elite team on any given night. That's why you're not going to see a return of the "glory days" that you so want. UConn is ahead of the pack, to some extent, but you also must take into account that they play in an incredibly weak conference. If they had to play in the ACC, SEC, or Pac-12, I'm betting they wouldn't be quite as unstoppable as they appear right now.

You're using Stanford's win over UConn in the second game of the season as an example of parity ? So if UConn runs the table and goes 39-1 on their way to another national championship that is parity while if they had beaten Stanford and went 40-0 that wouldn't be parity ?
Where the top recruits go isn't necessarily a sign of parity. How those teams perform would be.
Unranked teams have always beaten top 20 teams on occasion. You would have to provide a statistical analysis showing this is a trend rather than anecdotal evidence for it to be convincing.
2 years ago UConn played in the Big East with ND and Louisville. How did that go ? They also just beat SCe, the second ranked team in the country, by 25 points.
That's parity ?
I found this quote the most intriguing. "That's why you're not going to see a return of the "glory days" that you so want." Why not ? If we have dominated WCBB in the past and UConn is dominating now, why can't we return to a position of domination ? UConn has proven that it is possible to still be dominate even in this so called "era of parity". So what is preventing us from being the dominate team ?

 

[jkleno]

This is a forum, but your opinion still only matters to you. So . . .



Give me a break. I'M too emotional? LOLOLOL I'm not the one who is insinuating that someone who is, by all accounts, an outstanding third-year coach be fired because a small group of whiny, entitled fans are devastated that their team hasn't won a national championship in six years. You and those like you are unreasonable, and that unreasonableness is borne of the fact that you get too worked up over a basketball game.



So you purposely misspell her name . . . for what purpose? That's a sign that you're either immature or you're stupid, and quite likely, you're both. And I'm sorry, her team could lose in the first round and she wouldn't be going anywhere. Yes, I said her TEAM could lose. Holly hasn't played in a collegiate game in more than 30 years. Regardless of what a certain segment of a**hole fans believe, wins and losses aren't entirely on a coach's shoulders. There are accolades for everyone after a win, and blame to go around after a loss. (And the loss to South Carolina was nothing to be ashamed of . . . the team played a hell of a game and Holly coached a hell of a game. The only "blame" should be directed toward injuries.)



According to rankings, South Carolina is considered the #2 team in the country. Personally, I'm not completely in agreement with that ranking, but they are certainly a solid top-10, even top-5 team. I'm sure most programs would be happy to compete with them. Tennessee has been riddled with injuries; without those injuries, or at home, Tennessee would likely have won this game. Most reasonable people (you obviously aren't one of them) could see that Holly outcoached Dawn Staley by a mile during that game, and had her team been healthy, Tennessee would have won.



I don't care what you aren't happy about. You are as irrelevant to me as a spec of dust.



No, I'll respond by telling you that I'm convinced you are moderately intellectually deficient and I feel sorry for you.

IVYLEAGUE- I think your name pretty much sums you up. You like to use disparaging comments like "a-hole" and "moderately intellectual" to compensate for your own self worthlessness. I think if you started a poll on the correct spelling of "Holly or Hollie" Warlick," you would get a 50/50 vote. Obviously, she hasn't done much in her 3 years to garner very much attention to our women's basketball program thus the confusion on the spelling. And boy did that upset you. I would challenge you to a MENSA puzzle anytime, any day. You are barking up the wrong tree. It is always those who think they are so smart that turn out to be dumb as a box of rocks. Tread lightly IVY.