Let's compare Jesus and Muhammed (and debate homosexuality) (and Tombstone).

[Jaytrain5]

Thread just keeps getting better.

 

[fl0at]

what if the wife is the primary breadwinner of the family?

btw, it's easy to claim that men are the leaders in the household, but as Jeff Foxworthy so aptly put it, "if Momma ain't happy, ain't nobody happy."

So you subscribe to the "Golden rule:" He who has the gold makes the rules?

 

[utvolpj]

it isn't manly to boss your wife around and treat her like less of a partner

you should probably drop the shovel

 

[droski]

So, the man isn't a man anymore, he's just an equal opportunity in the marriage?? Interesting. Sorry, I believe in the man being the head of the household, and what he says goes, but that doesn't mean he doesn't get some input from the family.

even if the man is an idiot?

 

[g8terh8ter_eric]

even if the man is an idiot?

If a woman marries a man who is an idiot, then that's not his fault, is it??

 

[Jaytrain5]

even if the man is an idiot?

Clearly. I mean, eric runs shiz at his casa. Need I say more?

 

[g8terh8ter_eric]

it isn't manly to boss your wife around and treat her like less of a partner

you should probably drop the shovel

Wow, really?? Dude, you haven't ever been in my home, so stop trying to assume you know anything about me. Other than making sure we make it each month, my home has relatively no stress between me and my wife, just the occasional and normal disagreement on things. I have a fine home.

 

[droski]

If a woman marries a man who is an idiot, then that's not his fault, is it??

so if she wants some say in her life what should she do? go lesbo? my wife is better at some things than i am and vise versa. i'm not going to check the male dictionary to make sure i don't cross gender stereotypes.

 

[Jaytrain5]

Wow, really?? Dude, you haven't ever been in my home, so stop trying to assume you know anything about me. Other than making sure we make it each month, my home has relatively no stress between me and my wife, just the occasional and normal disagreement on things. I have a fine home.

Calm down. pj has a penis. That means he can voice his opinion. Save the orders for your old lady.

 

[Jaytrain5]

so if she wants some say in her life what should she do? go lesbo? my wife is better at some things than i am and vise versa. i'm not going to check the male dictionary to make sure i don't cross gender stereotypes.

My wife's good at keepin' her by god mouth shut in church.

 

[utvolpj]

Wow, really?? Dude, you haven't ever been in my home, so stop trying to assume you know anything about me. Other than making sure we make it each month, my home has relatively no stress between me and my wife, just the occasional and normal disagreement on things. I have a fine home.

I'm not assuming anything that you haven't put on this board. Clearly you feel it's your job to control your wife and home and everyone else disagrees.

I have taken no shots at you and the shovel reference was about the deep hole you're digging. But by all means continue

 

[g8terh8ter_eric]

so if she wants some say in her life what should she do? go lesbo? my wife is better at some things than i am and vise versa. i'm not going to check the male dictionary to make sure i don't cross gender stereotypes.

My wife and I collaborate on many different things for my household, but the problem with a lot of her decisions, is that they are emotional and not rational. My wife has plenty of say in my house, but according to how we believe, I get the last say, on most things. I do tread lightly with my daughter, however, because I am the step-dad with her. That's a whole 'nother issue though.

 

[g8terh8ter_eric]

I'm not assuming anything that you haven't put on this board. Clearly you feel it's your job to control your wife and home and everyone else disagrees.

I have taken no shots at you and the shovel reference was about the deep hole you're digging. But by all means continue

You know nothing about me or my household, continue on assuming and drawing conclusions on a message board though, it's what VolNation does best.

 

[golfballs]

Men are stronger!

 

[emainvol]

Obviously, you have no idea what you are talking about. Mechanics, cooks, finance guys, ordnance, signal, etc., etc. ad infinitum were on CLPs once or twice a week on some of the most nefarious stretches of highway in the world. Do you think the four to six hours between route clearance and the CLPs is insufficient time to emplace IEDs, EFPs, and AAIEDs?

Had a friend whose father worked for contractors in Iraq. He had mentioned the prospect of helping to get us jobs doing some of the maintenance type work in a compound in what he called a "safe zone." I asked him how safe, he said inner city Memphis.

 

[Jaytrain5]

You know nothing about me or my household, continue on assuming and drawing conclusions on a message board though, it's what VolNation does best.

We know plenty about you and your household...assuming what you've told us is true.

You like to drink tea, but it makes you sleepy. You struggle with thigh acne. You love pizza. You h8 g8ers. And you make all the decisions at your house because you're the man.

 

[MG1968]

So you subscribe to the "Golden rule:" He who has the gold makes the rules?

absolutely, although a more modern translation would be "Since she has the tatas and the hoohee, your life is put on hold until she's happy."

 

[volinbham]

Thread title needs another update.

 

[utvolpj]

Thread title needs another update.

it's like a freaking David Allen Coe song already

 

[fl0at]

I asked him how safe, he said inner city Memphis.

Again I feel the need to climb to the top of a water tower with a bucket of paint to defend my city's honor.

 

[golfballs]

I'm a man who discovered the wheel, and built the Eiffel Tower out of metal and brawn! That's what kind of man I am. You're just a woman with a small brain. With a brain a third the size of us. It's science

 

[IPorange]

How dumb can one person be?

 

[therealUT]

How dumb can one person be?

Met the lady for lunch and missed out on a lot in here; should've demanded that she just make my lunch and bring it to me.

 

[therealUT]

I think Paley’s argument is more interesting that the ontological argument of cosmological argument for God’s existence, but that is just me.

I think the whole this looks designed so it must have a designer theory is weak and, IMO, it was pretty well exposed by Darwin.

But is Kierkegaard not right? I agree with you that nobody ought to have their beliefs based solely on revelation/passion and not reason. But is that not reality? Even Saint Thomas Aquinas whose mission it was to use logic and reason to prove the existence of God to the naysayers was a Christian due his faith, not reason. I’ve failed to meet one person who has believes in God 100% based solely on logic or reason. That’s why it’s called faith.

I think the leap from knowledge of a suprarational being to a personal god takes faith and/or revelation. I think Aquinas and Augustine made that quite clear. Kierkegaard, if I understood him correctly, makes the case that reason cannot even get one to accept a suprarational being; only revelation and faith can.

Descartes on ontological argument is pure silliness. Humans can imagine just about anything.

Ironic, because that is almost the heart of it; you can think of anything, yet, your thoughts are still limited; ergo, there must be a higher power that has limited thoughts (applies to power, goodness, as well...as you well know).

I guess it appeals to the solipsist in me.

The mere thought of a supernatural force being omnipotent, omnibenevolent, and omniscience is not unconscionable and is certainly not reliable proof for the existence of God.

Should have included this in the above quoted section; however, I am feeling quite lazy right now.

It’s interesting that you bring up Locke. Although I dismiss Locke’s version of the Cosmological Argument, he raised in my opinion one of the most thought provoking questions about the existence of God; the dilemma of mathematical and Euclidean geometry. What’s your take Locke’s philosophical dilemma? I think it’s utterly fascinating.

Locke's Essay on Human Understanding was one of the most fascinating things I ever read and I read it right after finishing Hobbe's Leviathan.

Unfortunately, this was a few years back and I cannot remember all the specifics of the his dilemma and most of my library is still in boxes back in Kansas until I make a permanent move to D.C.

I do recall that he basically expressed some unassailable truths, and used geometry as examples: a rectangle will always consist of four right angles; the angles of a triangle will always add up to one-hundred-eighty degrees, etc. One cannot even imagine a rectangle/triangle/circle that does not meet these criteria, as in doing so it changes what the object is.

Sadly, though, I cannot tell you offhand the crux of the dilemma.

I would not blame Kierkegaard for that. I would blame organized religion for that. I guess we agree to disagree on that though.

I would blame both. So, not a complete disagreement.

Btw, were did this raging homosexual debate come from? In my opinion, the homosexuality debate can be simplified to a single question: Do you believe that homosexuality is genetic; ergo the person is born with it or do you believe homosexuality is a choice? Those who side with the former tend to be in support for homosexuality legally and tend to be far from homophobic. Those who side with the latter can be split into two groups. Either they believe homosexuality is horrible sin which should not be perpetuated by the state (against gay marriage) or they believe homosexuals should have legal rights but their actions still freak them out and so they have are level of homophobic. I haven’t met many people who believe it’s a choice, want them to have full rights, and are completely non-homophobic. Maybe there are some on here who fit into my last group, but I haven’t met many in person.

I think I might have somehow sparked this fire.

I am not sure whether or not homosexuality comes from nature, nurture, or his a conscious choice; frankly, I don't spend too much time thinking about it. Regardless of why persons are homosexual, I still think they have the right to do as they please with consensual partners and do so with acceptance from the community.

 

[Slydell]

Holy chit!! :no:
smh