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This is easy and it won't hurt but it will give you something to think on and maybe realize what type of player UT faced at QB.

If you had a choice would you take Hackney right now as UT's starting QB

Big, strong, mobile, smart and executes the game plan
 
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Heck yeah Id take DH as the UT QB. In a heartbeat. Id put him ahead of Ainge definitely.
 
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Probably, he can get the ball downfield and rarely overthrew receivers. But I still support Clausen and Ainge.
 
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No, I will still take Ainge. God you guys jump off the wagon way to early. He has one bad game and now yall want to hang him. Yes he deserves to be talked bad about for a day or two but its not like fulmer really gave him a shot yesterday. I mean when Ainge was rolling early in the game Fulmer took him out and ruined all of his momentum. AInge is going to be a star guys, lets not forget it.
 
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I would take our QB's over Hackney...You can't just go on what our QB's did yesterday...One game doesn't make a career...Both of our QB's are more talented...All Hackney is is a overweight QB that is harder to sack...He gets lucky by completing passes as his fat @$$ is falling...If we had DB's or LB's that could catch he would have thrown a couple more interceptions.

God Bless and Go Vols
Run to the Roses
 
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To minimize what Hackney did as luck is to be in a state of denial.
 
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Originally posted by GAVol@Sep 4, 2005 2:57 PM
To minimize what Hackney did as luck is to be in a state of denial.
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I am not saying everything he did is luck...The only thing I said that he did was luck was throwing the ball while his fat @$$ was falling and completing it...He is lucky it didn't fall into the arms of a waiting defender and taken back for 6...And no it is not a state of denial.
 
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Its nothing against either Ainge (at least once he removes head from AZZ) or Clausen.

Hackney playing behind UT's line, with all the weapons UT has. Hackney is a better QB than the next one UT faces
 
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Dude (utvol0427), what is wrong with you? He evaded pressure, completed passes, kept his team in the game, took a licking from our D-line (Lest you forget just WHO our D-line IS) and kept on going.

Hackney is better than any QB in all of the SEC. Period.

That said, I will still take Ainge and Clausen. I think Ainge just needs to calm down and play smooth like he did in the beginning of yesterday's game and he can be great. 2345 made a good point, I think Fulmer taking him out like that made him lose momentum.
 
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Originally posted by vols2345@Sep 4, 2005 1:44 PM
No,  I will still take Ainge.  God you guys jump off the wagon way to early.  He has one bad game and now yall want to hang him.  Yes he deserves to be talked bad about for a day or two but its not like fulmer really gave him a shot yesterday.  I mean when Ainge was rolling early in the game Fulmer took him out and ruined all of his momentum.  AInge is going to be a star guys,  lets not forget it.
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Does he have to actually COST us a game before you agree he isn't as good as some people here want to pretend he is?

He's good, and he's MUCH better than he played yesterday, but it isn't Fulmer's fault. He wasn't exactly "rolling" when Clausen came into the game. He stalled out on the first drive and was given the ball inside the 40 on the second drive. The TD pass was more EXCELLENT catch than it was great throw.

Get off his jock already. Admit he sucked plain and simple.
 
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Dude, saying that he is better than any QB isn't saying that much because the SEC is really weak at that position. Saying that he is better than any QB in the SEC is also not true. I would take Clausen, Ainge, or Leak over him. He threw 1 INT, and should have been a couple of more, against a defense that looked like they were half asleep the whole game...He evaded pressure some but he also got hit and knocked around a lot and if he wasn't overweight he would have been sacked a lot more too...He completed passes because our secondary was on drugs the whole game, we were giving the receivers 5 to 10 yards to catch the ball, plus we were giving him the middle of the field...I could have completed passes against that defense yesterday...He is tough, everytime he got knocked down he got right back up, I will give u that...I think everyone is making to big of a deal about him...Nothing is wrong with me, I just don't think Hackney is that good of a QB and I guarantee u that he will not have a good NFL career...he reminds me of Rohan Davey, who I think delivered my pizza last night.

God Bless and Go Vols
 
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Originally posted by BeltwayVol@Sep 4, 2005 2:31 PM
Does he have to actually COST us a game before you agree he isn't as good as some people here want to pretend he is? 

He's good, and he's MUCH better than he played yesterday, but it isn't Fulmer's fault.  He wasn't exactly "rolling" when Clausen came into the game.  He stalled out on the first drive and was given the ball inside the 40 on the second drive.  The TD pass was more EXCELLENT catch than it was great throw. 

Get off his jock already.  Admit he sucked plain and simple.
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Oh I know he sucked yesterday and I never said he didn't, But don't giv up on him right now, we sound like Auburn fans on how they hated jason Campell. He is our future so we need to embrace him, not throw him to the dogs.
 
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Originally posted by vols2345@Sep 4, 2005 3:35 PM
Oh I know he sucked yesterday and I never said he didn't,  But don't giv up on him right now,  we sound like Auburn fans on how they hated jason Campell.  He is our future so we need to embrace him, not throw him to the dogs.
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I don't hate him, but I do realize he isn't ready to be the QB of this football team. Let him come in off the bench and learn how to play the possition and learn how to work as a TEAM player. He needs to understand that the team doesn't NEED him. Clausen's success last season SHOULD have taught him that, be he is a little too cocky and a little too stubborn to realize it.
 
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Originally posted by utvol0427@Sep 4, 2005 3:33 PM
he reminds me of Rohan Davey, who I think delivered my pizza last night.
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:lolabove: :lolabove: :lolabove:
 
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Originally posted by BeltwayVol@Sep 4, 2005 2:38 PM
I don't hate him, but I do realize he isn't ready to be the QB of this football team.  Let him come in off the bench and learn how to play the possition and learn how to work as a TEAM player.  He needs to understand that the team doesn't NEED him.  Clausen's success last season SHOULD have taught him that, be he is a little too cocky and a little too stubborn to realize it.
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Great post I agree with that. I do think Clausen is the qb right now.
 
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Originally posted by utvol0427@Sep 4, 2005 3:33 PM
Dude, saying that he is better than any QB isn't saying that much because the SEC is really weak at that position. Saying that he is better than any QB in the SEC is also not true. I would take Clausen, Ainge, or Leak over him.  He threw 1 INT, and should have been a couple of more, against a defense that looked like they were half asleep the whole game...He evaded pressure some but he also got hit and knocked around a lot and if he wasn't overweight he would have been sacked a lot more too...He completed passes because our secondary was on drugs the whole game, we were giving the receivers 5 to 10 yards to catch the ball, plus we were giving him the middle of the field...I could have completed passes against that defense yesterday...He is tough, everytime he got knocked down he got right back up, I will give u that...I think everyone is making to big of a deal about him...Nothing is wrong with me, I just don't think Hackney is that good of a QB and I guarantee u that he will not have a good NFL career...he reminds me of Rohan Davey, who I think delivered my pizza last night.

God Bless and Go Vols
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I'll take Hacney and you can have Leak and everything else being equal I'll beat you 9 out of 10
 
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Obviously some here cannot sit their Bias aside and think abstractly
 
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Who cares what kind of Pro Qb Hacney will be, he almsot hande us our butts on a platter, If I had to choose between Hacney and Ainge based on yesterdays performance, the Hack would be the man.
 
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So, just wondering when we are gonna change this website to www.hackneynation.com? I love the vols, but if I think one of their players deserves praise then I will be the first person to give it to them... I absolutely despise Chris Leak but I think he is a great QB. He is not going to put up the numbers this year in that offense, but he is a very smart and skilled QB...I just do not think that Hackney deserves the praise that he is getting on here...Do u all think that Shane Boyd or Jay Cutler will be great NFL QBs since we almost lost to them last year?...From the sounds of this all someone has to do is be a QB for a team that almost upsets someone and they are set for a great NFL career.

God Bless and Go Vols
Run to the Roses
 
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ok so you despise Leak but give him props, you don't despise Hackney but he doesn't deserve some recognition, he didn't throw 2 floaters for interceptions. Clausen's int was not completely his fault ( even though it was behind the receiver) and Hacney's int was just one helluva play by our guy. Ainge had an impressive 1st couple of drives and them fell to pieces. Do I want to trade him to UAB ...no But give Hackney some credit he played a pretty good game against the # 3 ranked team.
 
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He played a pretty good game against the #3 ranked team that played a horrible game...Our defense was on another planet the whole game...Our secondary was giving Hackney the whole middle of the field and they were playing 5-10 yards off of the WRs...I could have a pretty good game against that...I didn't see him once make a throw that was a difficult pass to make...Hackney had a couple of passes that should have been INTs but our DBs and LBs couldn't catch syphillis in a whore house. If he would have done this against a team that was playing good I would give him credit...I think we just overlooked UAB and weren't playing with any emotion and he took advantage of it.
 
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Originally posted by utvol0427@Sep 4, 2005 4:56 PM
He played a pretty good game against the #3 ranked team that played a horrible game...Our defense was on another planet the whole game...Our secondary was giving Hackney the whole middle of the field and they were playing 5-10 yards off of the WRs...I could have a pretty good game against that...I didn't see him once make a throw that was a difficult pass to make...Hackney had a couple of passes that should have been INTs but our DBs and LBs couldn't catch syphillis in a whore house.  If he would have done this against a team that was playing good I would give him credit...I think we just overlooked UAB and weren't playing with any emotion and he took advantage of it.
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It wasn't the secondary's fault. even Fulmer said the LBer's were to blame

UAB came in with a game plan and Hackney executed it and UT couldn't force him out of the gameplan. Everyone including UAB's coaches that throwing deep wouldn't work and they chose the short to intermediate pass and the LBer's failure to cover their lanes coast UT time and again. The only DB that got burnt was Wade.

If you don't think Hackney is a better QB than Leak you need a refresher in football. Hackney is an excellent college QB and will be an Excellent Pro QB.
Leak is an above average college QB and that is all.
 
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ok...So the LBs were to blame for the horrid pass D...Then how can u say that Hackney is great and played great and all of this stuff if the LBs were doing (or not doing) something to help Hackney's cause.
 
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