LG's take on Muschamp and the Gators, generally

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1. Muschamp has all of the tools to be an excellent head coach and time will tell whether he puts it together, but I am perplexed as to why we didn't land a big name.

Was it lack of interest on the part of guys like Peterson? Or were they afraid of coiming in to a program with such lofty expectations? If it was the latter, why does that not worry Muschamp?

2. Muschamp has shown that he can recruit, and word has it from the key signees that his energy level has them sold.

3. I have heard two rumors. One is that Meyer was basically instructed by his doctors to quit. The other is that there was some scandal about to break involving a cheerleader. The former is obviously based in fact. The latter to my knowledge is message board tripe by the usual haters out of FSU.

I think Meyer will one day coach Notre Dame.

4. The Gator talent level is down. Heard reporter say that last year's team had 11 NFL players leaving whereas this year's team might have 3. Says he is not only person to have this opinion, and in fact a certain coach at the program, whose name rhymes with "Herban Plyer" has made similar comments.

And no one really knowswhy.

5. Heard former college coach (whose name escapes me at the moment) on weekend ESPN show discussing how these coaches go into a home and what the parents want to hear.

Almost universally, for top talent kids, its about getting into the NFL. 99 % of the time, you are absolutely deluding yourself if you think its about winning or being part of a respected program. These kids do not give a rat's azz about that. They want to go where they feel it likely that they will get noticed and be properly developed to make millions in the pros.

And in that respect, success breeds success. So Florida has a window right now to trade on where it has been. But, if you fade from the spotlight for a few years, watch out, because that's when your 5 star recruit turn into "under appreciated" 3 stars.

Florida has just had year 1 of 3. They are on the clock.

6. Florida has no excuse not to win the SECE next year. None.

7. One wonders whether Brantley feels like transferring. He constantly hears that he has great potential as a standard drop back passer with NFL possibility, but he finds himself in an offensive scheme that so far does not allow him to flourish.

I would think that Muschamp is begging him to stay and promising to build the O around the passing game next year because, if Brantley left, what kind of message does that send to current and future recruits?
 
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1. Muschamp has all of the tools to be an excellent head coach and time will tell whether he puts it together, but I am perplexed as to why we didn't land a big name.

Was it lack of interest on the part of guys like Peterson? Or were they afraid of coiming in to a program with such lofty expectations? If it was the latter, why does that not worry Muschamp?

2. Muschamp has shown that he can recruit, and word has it from the key signees that his energy level has them sold.

3. I have heard two rumors. One is that Meyer was basically instructed by his doctors to quit. The other is that there was some scandal about to break involving a cheerleader. The former is obviously based in fact. The latter to my knowledge is message board tripe by the usual haters out of FSU.

I think Meyer will one day coach Notre Dame.

4. The Gator talent level is down. Heard reporter say that last year's team had 11 NFL players leaving whereas this year's team might have 3. Says he is not only person to have this opinion, and in fact a certain coach at the program, whose name rhymes with "Herban Plyer" has made similar comments.

And no one really knowswhy.

5. Heard former college coach (whose name escapes me at the moment) on weekend ESPN show discussing how these coaches go into a home and what the parents want to hear.

Almost universally, for top talent kids, its about getting into the NFL. 99 % of the time, you are absolutely deluding yourself if you think its about winning or being part of a respected program. These kids do not give a rat's azz about that. They want to go where they feel it likely that they will get noticed and be properly developed to make millions in the pros.

And in that respect, success breeds success. So Florida has a window right now to trade on where it has been. But, if you fade from the spotlight for a few years, watch out, because that's when your 5 star recruit turn into "under appreciated" 3 stars.

Florida has just had year 1 of 3. They are on the clock.

6. Florida has no excuse not to win the SECE next year. None.

7. One wonders whether Brantley feels like transferring. He constantly hears that he has great potential as a standard drop back passer with NFL possibility, but he finds himself in an offensive scheme that so far does not allow him to flourish.

I would think that Muschamp is begging him to stay and promising to build the O around the passing game next year because, if Brantley left, what kind of message does that send to current and future recruits?
The cheerleader thing is standard issue for coach resignation. I've also heard that Tim Tebow is pregnant.

I'm underwhelmed by the hire.

I hear Muschamp is a rabid tea-partier.
Gold.
 
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The cheerleader thing is standard issue for coach resignation. I've also heard that Tim Tebow is pregnant.

The coach-cheerleader thing is ancient, isn't it? I mean, look at the rumors about Pearl fancying the younger ladies to the point of being sort of embarrassing.

Oh, wait.



I'm underwhelmed by the hire.

Why? I mean, sure, I expected someone with a bigger name and deep head coaching resume, but he has been on short lists before and was coach-in-waiting at Texas. I expected different, but cannot assume thereby that he won't do well.

i am interested in seeing what kind of offense muschamp will want to run


I am assuming we will move away from the spread. I'd like to see us gain some consistency in the running game, first and foremost.
 
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The cheerleader thing is standard issue for coach resignation. I've also heard that Tim Tebow is pregnant.

I'm underwhelmed by the hire.[QUOTE/]

hahaha I wonder what Tebow will name his baby?
I agree I'm underwhelmed as well. w
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I am assuming we will move away from the spread. I'd like to see us gain some consistency in the running game, first and foremost.

No head coach experience, and I don't think he is any sort of defensive guru. He made his rep coaching Tubb's defense and getting fired up on Auburn's sideline.
 
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If you go by draft eligible players, of course UF looks down.

All the juniors leaving early over the last three years caught up.


UF has a lot of reasons why they shouldn't be hands down favorites to win the East.

One being Marcus Lattimore.
 
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USCe is returning dang near everyone, they should be the favorite to win the east next year. For a new coach to come in and be expected to win the East next year is setting a high bar and seeting them up for failure. I also agree that this hire is a bit odd. UF's defense played sound this year so they bring in a defensive head coach instead of a coach to help the offense that's struggled. Sounds more like your going for a known name instead of someone that will help the program.
 
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Photo of Muschamp at recent Austin Tea Party Rally:

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The pregnant cheerleader rumor has been floating around since Retirement Announcement #1, and as a matter of fact, first I heard or read anything about it was on that joke of a message board on Gatorsports.com. As for Muschamp...meh. We'll see.
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I think South Carolina should be the favorite to win the east, but they're not so good that they should be expected to skate through their schedule.

They'll lose something like 4 or 5 starters from their defensive front seven...so they'll have some holes to fill.

Plus their overall talent level is no better than Georgia or Florida...Tennessee should be improved. The east will be competitive again next year.
 
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so you think Florida is down on talent, thats why they didnt do good? umm i beg to differ. tebow was gone, meyer was lost without him and couldnt coach up what he had. i would love to take half the talent on Florida's roster,and bring them to knoxville.
 
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I'm curious as to why Florida is going in this direction. Whenever Florida has been a dominate force in the SEC it's always stemmed from having a unique offensive minded coach. (Spurrier, Meyer) and the new hire is a defensive coordinator, not to mention one who has never been a head coach? It just seems odd to me. Not to mention that Muschamp was in a pretty sweet deal at Texas with arguably the best talent in the country (after USC talent) and his defense was anemic, just a few months removed from a National Championship run? I question how this pans out for Florida.....but time will tell......
 
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I'm curious as to why Florida is going in this direction. Whenever Florida has been a dominate force in the SEC it's always stemmed from having a unique offensive minded coach. (Spurrier, Meyer) and the new hire is a defensive coordinator, not to mention one who has never been a head coach? It just seems odd to me. Not to mention that Muschamp was in a pretty sweet deal at Texas with arguably the best talent in the country (after USC talent) and his defense was anemic, just a few months removed from a National Championship run? I question how this pans out for Florida.....but time will tell......

In 06 and 08, UF's offense sputtered while the D stonewalled people.

Bob Stoops has a ring from that 96 NC team.

Funny how that works.
 
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I was a little surprised that they did not go with someone with head coaching experience for such a high pressured job. When Urban came to Florida, I (along with many) did not think that it would work out with his offense and not having recruiting ties to the Southeast. That was proven wrong, so I could be wrong in thinking that Muschamp will not work out. However, just because you can recruit and just because you have experience coaching defenses, doesn't always translate into being a good head football coach at Florida (see Ron "The Zooker" Zook).

I really thought that they might take their search to the NFL with all those coaches that are foaming at the mouth to coach in the NCAA such as Jon (he owns property in Gainesville or insert college town here) Gruden, Tony (its always a long shot) Dungy or Bill Cowher....after all its the Florida job.

I think Muschamp might end up being a better game manager and head coach than the Zooker, but I hope that he leaves the jump-hip-bumping at Texas.
 
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2. Muschamp has shown that he can recruit, and word has it from the key signees that his energy level has them sold. He is a solid recruiter, but could be decent at UF and still get what is required to win big. That is more of an issue at UT than UF.


4. The Gator talent level is down. Heard reporter say that last year's team had 11 NFL players leaving whereas this year's team might have 3. Says he is not only person to have this opinion, and in fact a certain coach at the program, whose name rhymes with "Herban Plyer" has made similar comments.

And no one really knowswhy.
To go along with 2. They didn't/don't have a talent problem. Maybe a development problem.


6. Florida has no excuse not to win the SECE next year. None.IMO, they had no excuse this year. Next year will be more difficult IMO, not to mention you are asking this of a first year head coach.

7. One wonders whether Brantley feels like transferring. He constantly hears that he has great potential as a standard drop back passer with NFL possibility, but he finds himself in an offensive scheme that so far does not allow him to flourish. Things being as they were, he would have been better off to have gone somewhere else anyway. At this point, he would be better served to hang around and see what happens with the new OC, and see if it fits. I think he is a solid pro-style guy.

IMO the hire was a leap, considering its UF. Will he flop? He has a better chance of flopping than some of the other names I heard mentioned, the unknown, is the unknown.
 
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Clever thread idea. It's like me expounding on the start of my menstrual cycle.
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I'm curious as to why Florida is going in this direction. Whenever Florida has been a dominate force in the SEC it's always stemmed from having a unique offensive minded coach. (Spurrier, Meyer) and the new hire is a defensive coordinator, not to mention one who has never been a head coach? It just seems odd to me. Not to mention that Muschamp was in a pretty sweet deal at Texas with arguably the best talent in the country (after USC talent) and his defense was anemic, just a few months removed from a National Championship run? I question how this pans out for Florida.....but time will tell......

In 06 and 08, UF's offense sputtered while the D stonewalled people.

Bob Stoops has a ring from that 96 NC team.

Funny how that works.


Florida's national championships were very much about defense, particularly 2006.


Clever thread idea. It's like me expounding on the start of my menstrual cycle.
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