Likely Trump NSA says that he will prosecute media that criticizes him

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Jxn Vol said:
When the media fuses itself to the government to promote propaganda it is criminal. Treasonous even. Study pre WW2 Germany.
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Study the proposal to criminally prosecute media that criticizes you. Not pre war, but Nazis and totalitarian regimes universally.
 
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PEPPERJAX said:
That sounds like crap? Apologies, wish I could relate but We work in completely different fields. I am a big fan of Matlock though.
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It gets me paid.

It is just frustrating that everybody had the same information 2 months ago and they were offering crap. Now we are on the eve of trial and I am putting in stupid hours and they are gonna blink at the last possible moment? It often feels like a game the insurance companies play on larger cases just to see if you are willing to take it all the way.
 
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Sea Ray said:
Trump didn't collude with the Russians either but that didn't stop the gov't from going after him. This is called turnabout is fair play. He can harass them and wiretap them for 3 yrs and never file any charges. That's how this works, huh? Paybacks are hell
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You need to be specific. Which entity or person, and what did they do wrong, exactly?

This is the biggest concern I have, which is to take all of your MAGA resentment at everything and everyone you disagree with and lump it all together so that CIA, FBI, CNN, CBS, and all organizations that have dared to criticize Trump become one, and you just broadly label them all as "in on it."

Now, you want to find someone within an NSA agency you think you have probable cause to claim used their position illegally? Let's hear it. Otherwise, what this freak is proposing and what Trump has promised is blatantly unconstitutional, especially as to media.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
It gets me paid.

It is just frustrating that everybody had the same information 2 months ago and they were offering crap. Now we are on the eve of trial and I am putting in stupid hours and they are gonna blink at the last possible moment? It often feels like a game the insurance companies play on larger cases just to see if you are willing to take it all the way.
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Now dealing with any sort of insurance company is always a nightmare.
 
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Dumb Donny is just talking mad sht in order to rile up is idiot MAGA base. They buy into his idiotic ramblings every time.

Despite what he says, he knows he can't legally violate the 1st amendment. This is just another way of him screeching "lock her up" without saying it.

On a side note - all the MAGA nerds who are bitching about Biden's .gov going after Donny. Since Donny is overtly stating he's going to do the same thing, kindly stfu. Please and thank you.
 
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lawgator1 said:











This is some scary sh!t. The Republicans have been complaining that there is too much censorship of social media that promotes right wing points of view, but here they are saying they will prosecute media who have criticized Trump. Trying to say only for those that "broke the law" is pointlessly vague.
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did you miss the part where he said they would use the Constitution to go after them for crimes?

this Trump fear mania is ludicrous and either signs of mental illness or bad faith politicking
 
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lawgator1 said:
Study the proposal to criminally prosecute media that criticizes you. Not pre war, but Nazis and totalitarian regimes universally.
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When the media becomes nothing other then a propaganda machine it's time for somebody to force a change
 
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This would be bad bad bad for democracy, but I agree with some posters that this is probably just bluster.
 
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These right-wingers all give us their blowhard tough-guy acts, like the gangster. Much of it is performance art to impress the redneck base,
which likes all this defiant/tough-guy BS. Nobody is impressed. They're all clowns.
 
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n_huffhines said:
This would be bad bad bad for democracy, but I agree with some posters that this is probably just bluster.
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I can't imagine Trump would be any worse than previous administrations have - Obama spied on journalists and prosecuted leakers at an unprecedented level (an ordered a hit on an American citizen but that's another story). There has been no shortage of criminalizing politics going back decades.

The shear number of media pieces all playing the same tune of Trump as dictator is a tell; it looks like he could win so we have to scare the bejeebers out of the electorate.
 
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turbovol said:
These right-wingers all give us their blowhard tough-guy acts, like the gangster. Much of it is performance art to impress the redneck base,
which likes all this defiant/tough-guy BS. Nobody is impressed. They're all clowns.
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Nobody is impressed? LG is pooping his pampers if his outrage is to be believed.

Speaking of tough guy acts, your boy Biden is now saying he wouldn't be running if he wasn't needed to defeat Trump.

The two worst candidates in my life time and there's not a dime's worth of difference in their rhetoric
 
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turbovol said:
These right-wingers all give us their blowhard tough-guy acts, like the gangster. Much of it is performance art to impress the redneck base,
which likes all this defiant/tough-guy BS. Nobody is impressed. They're all clowns.
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The gangster is coming for you first Turblow! Your posting crimes are worse than the atrocities committed by Adam Schiff!
 
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Sea Ray said:
Trump didn't collude with the Russians either but that didn't stop the gov't from going after him. This is called turnabout is fair play. He can harass them and wiretap them for 3 yrs and never file any charges. That's how this works, huh? Paybacks are hell
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He publicly called on Putin to hack Clinton's emails, for one thing. The gangster is dirty and has gay-man love for Putin--our enemy. Fact. He's demonstrated that many times. He wants to sleep with Putin and thus learn the secrets of being a murderer and a war criminal.

More generally, the gangster breaks laws and is corrupt---hard fact. That is why he's being prosecuted. It's unfortunate that the rednecks won't accept reality. We're talking about ignorant primitives who want to pretend that Jan.6 didn't happen or wasn't a big deal--conclusive evidence that the rubes ignore reality. He refused to return classified documents and lied about it. Fact.

Ignoring reality is a MAGA thang. That's why they love conspiracy theories. They're an embarrassment.
 
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volinbham said:
Nobody is impressed? LG is pooping his pampers if his outrage is to be believed.

Speaking of tough guy acts, your boy Biden is now saying he wouldn't be running if he wasn't needed to defeat Trump.

The two worst candidates in my life time and there's not a dime's worth of difference in their rhetoric
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No difference in their rhetoric? Are you a sentient human being? Apparently not. I say this seriously: That is an incredibly stupid comment.
 
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volinbham said:
I can't imagine Trump would be any worse than previous administrations have - Obama spied on journalists and prosecuted leakers at an unprecedented level (an ordered a hit on an American citizen but that's another story). There has been no shortage of criminalizing politics going back decades.

The shear number of media pieces all playing the same tune of Trump as dictator is a tell; it looks like he could win so we have to scare the bejeebers out of the electorate.
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I mean, is it a tell? They're liberal media outlets. Trump has a long history of dabbling in authoritarian ideas. Guess what, when Obama spied on journalists, right-wing media was saying a lot of stuff about him being authoritarian. Why wouldn't they? Why wouldn't the liberal media do the same thing to Trump? The liberal media is a much bigger body, so I think it goes unnoticed that the right does the exact same thing, it's just on a smaller scale.
 
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n_huffhines said:
I mean, is it a tell? They're liberal media outlets. Trump has a long history of dabbling in authoritarian ideas. Guess what, when Obama spied on journalists, right-wing media was saying a lot of stuff about him being authoritarian. Why wouldn't they? Why wouldn't the liberal media do the same thing to Trump? The liberal media is a much bigger body, so I think it goes unnoticed that the right does the exact same thing, it's just on a smaller scale.
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Not sure how many of the articles you've read but they sound like LG and Turbo collaborated. They are so extreme in their takes it doesn't even come across as data-driven opinion.

At least when opining about Obama spying on journalists there was an actual Presidential action that did occur - the E-branch spied on journalists. Trump is saying vague things and that's getting people to opine his election is the end of democracy and we may never have an election again; that he will jail his detractors; that he will install himself for a third, fourth term.

What I see as a tell is the level of exaggeration along with the timing (all occurring within the last 2 weeks). It comes across as the latest campaign tactic and coincides with Biden's polling declines along with the realization that "Bidenomics" as a slogan simply hasn't worked (it is now officially dropped as a campaign slogan).
 
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volinbham said:
Not sure how many of the articles you've read but they sound like LG and Turbo collaborated. They are so extreme in their takes it doesn't even come across as data-driven opinion.

At least when opining about Obama spying on journalists there was an actual Presidential action that did occur - the E-branch spied on journalists. Trump is saying vague things and that's getting people to opine his election is the end of democracy and we may never have an election again; that he will jail his detractors; that he will install himself for a third, fourth term.

What I see as a tell is the level of exaggeration along with the timing (all occurring within the last 2 weeks). It comes across as the latest campaign tactic and coincides with Biden's polling declines along with the realization that "Bidenomics" as a slogan simply hasn't worked (it is now officially dropped as a campaign slogan).
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I don't think this distinction matters to the point I'm making. People are easily afraid, and media/politicians use fear-mongering as a tool for convincing. It's just what the media does. They don't care if it's a specific government action or words. It still creates fear, and the media/politicians then leverage it. It's not strange behavior for them to be leveraging it in Trump's case. He gives them plenty of reason to oppose him and plenty of ammunition.
 
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