Lol @ the CCM haters

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JoseDaMofo said:
How does he not promote it? He's even brazenly admitted he has no qualms with it.

Kentucky's John Calipari defends philosophy of one-and-done recruits
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Well he doesn't have any problem with it but at the same time i don't think he promotes it. He has no control over it so regardless what he says, nothing will change. He recruits the best and typically half of the players he recruits have no business being in college anyway. It would be unethical of him to convince a guy like AD or Wall to stay another year when they're clearly ready for the pros.

This is a quote from your link:
"All these people are trying to make this one-year rule my rule," Calipari says. "When did it become my rule? I don't even like it."
 
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UK101 said:
Well he doesn't have any problem with it but at the same time i don't think he promotes it. He has no control over it so regardless what he says, nothing will change. He recruits the best and typically half of the players he recruits have no business being in college anyway. It would be unethical of him to convince a guy like AD or Wall to stay another year when they're clearly ready for the pros.
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He promotes it by having recruited dozens of players who take that route in a mere few years. The vast majority of his players are the one-and-dones.

He promotes that they can all reach their dream the easiest by going to Kentucky. Classic case of promotion. That dream being the NBA.
 
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UK101 said:
This is a quote from your link:
"All these people are trying to make this one-year rule my rule," Calipari says. "When did it become my rule? I don't even like it."
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He doesn't have to like the idea in order to promote it and give himself an edge. It's not ideal for him, but those guys "one-and-done-"ing for him is better than doing it at an opposing program.
 
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JoseDaMofo said:
He doesn't have to like the idea in order to promote it and give himself an edge. It's not ideal for him, but those guys "one-and-done-"ing for him is better than doing it at an opposing program.
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I agree with this. A flaw i've seen with this rule is peer pressure for each class. The starting five all declared when Lamb and Teague weren't ready for the pros, imo. I just don't think they wanted to be left behind. As a result i think some of his recruits might become busts in the pros.
 
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whobethis16 said:
If we really want to talk about development, the easiest place to look is Pearl's biggest recruits, Hopson and Harris. Neither of them were really "developed" under Pearl. Harris would've gone pro after high school if he could have, and the only way he really improved was by playing in Div. I games. He could've done that anywhere and had the same results. Hopson, while I don't claim he was a bust, greatly underachieved while here, or did not develop. If he could've gone pro out of high school he would have, but he never really grew as a player. He had some good years, but for a McDonald's All-American, he did not develop (or was not developed) like he should have.

Stokes, on the other hand, has developed. It is obvious. He has grown incredibly as a player from when he first set foot on the floor to where he is now. Yes, part of that is from getting used to Div. I ball, but Martin and Co. have done a tremendous job with him.
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While I see your point about Hopson not developing, my counter to that would be that Hopson was LAZY....HE acted like he had better things to do than be on the court....JMO
 
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JoseDaMofo said:
I'd say the probability would've been better of them staying. With Pearl being the guy who recruited them and with the lockout occurring, I think there would've been a legitimate shot. I wouldn't have been surprised to see Harris go, though.
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You can't blame any coach for players deciding to go pro.
 
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whobethis16 said:
If we really want to talk about development, the easiest place to look is Pearl's biggest recruits, Hopson and Harris. Neither of them were really "developed" under Pearl. Harris would've gone pro after high school if he could have, and the only way he really improved was by playing in Div. I games. He could've done that anywhere and had the same results. Hopson, while I don't claim he was a bust, greatly underachieved while here, or did not develop. If he could've gone pro out of high school he would have, but he never really grew as a player. He had some good years, but for a McDonald's All-American, he did not develop (or was not developed) like he should have.

Stokes, on the other hand, has developed. It is obvious. He has grown incredibly as a player from when he first set foot on the floor to where he is now. Yes, part of that is from getting used to Div. I ball, but Martin and Co. have done a tremendous job with him.
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Individual player talent development by coaches is very over rated.....coaches aren't allowed enough time with players to be able to focus on individual skills....coaches can, however put players in better position to succeed.

By the time a player has gotten into college, they have played year round for twelve to fourteen years, player development is very overrated at the college level.
 
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UK101 said:
Judging by your avatar im amazed your not ridiculing his way of coaching. Most haters say he's ruining CBB
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I don't ridicule his coaching. I ridicule his recruiting tactics and how he skirts the NCAA rules. Having a guy like WWW as your "friend" must be nice. Having Lebron James, who never even played for him, come to campus must be nice too. He'll continue to do it until they find something.
 
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JoseDaMofo said:
How does he not promote it? He's even brazenly admitted he has no qualms with it.

Edit: No Qualms isn't the best phrase. He definitely acknowledges that staying 4 years for all these guys isn't their best option, and he claims to have their goals in mind.

Kentucky's John Calipari defends philosophy of one-and-done recruits
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It's not his rule though. Most basketball players that want a career in the NBA want to get there as quick as they can. The large majority of them will make more money in the NBA than their entire family has ever. Is it making a mockery of the college game where the player only plays for 1 year? Sure it is, but blame the NBA and not the coach or the NCAA who has no control over it. The majority of basketball and baseball players can go straight to the pros out of high school. The rule is stupid. Nerlens Noel can vouch for that.
 
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SGMVols said:
False. CJ Watson and Major Wingate were both top 100 reecruits Pearl inherited. And Buzz had a signed LOI from Tyler Smith who was also top 100, that Pearl lost.
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Watson was NOT a top 100 player!!! He was a 3 star pg rank 13th for position but not in top 100.

so i missed on 1.
 
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patrick said:
Watson was NOT a top 100 player!!! He was a 3 star pg rank 13th for position but not in top 100.

so i missed on 1.
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Remember when john winchester and cj did the interview stating they could not wait to play together bc they were going to win.championships together......it still makes me laugh.
 
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OrangeBalls said:
I don't ridicule his coaching. I ridicule his recruiting tactics and how he skirts the NCAA rules. Having a guy like WWW as your "friend" must be nice. Having Lebron James, who never even played for him, come to campus must be nice too. He'll continue to do it until they find something.
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Well i think a lot of coaches have there own "friend" that has connections to high schools and AAU teams. Indiana has Mark Adams for example. I dunno about UT but i would even venture to guess CCM has his own connection to some AAU clubs. Its just part of the business.
 
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two losses to Georgia.

great effort by McRae and Hall - everyone else - lackluster (including CCM).

AA tourney very much in doubt.
 
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OrangeBalls said:
It's not his rule though. Most basketball players that want a career in the NBA want to get there as quick as they can. The large majority of them will make more money in the NBA than their entire family has ever. Is it making a mockery of the college game where the player only plays for 1 year? Sure it is, but blame the NBA and not the coach or the NCAA who has no control over it. The majority of basketball and baseball players can go straight to the pros out of high school. The rule is stupid. Nerlens Noel can vouch for that.
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Completely irrelevant. We're not talking about whether or not it's his rule. He promotes it and uses it to benefit Kentucky.

"Promoting" doesn't mean he prefers the method over others; neither does me calling you "obtuse" mean I'm calling you round, fat or a non-sharp object.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
They won 6 in a row, some of which were against good teams...no reason they can't do it again, that's the mindset they now need.
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I think that loss seals their fate and banishes them to a repeat NIT bid....

Wish McRae would have had some help out there; everyone else looked like they were going through the motions!
 
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JoseDaMofo said:
Completely irrelevant. We're not talking about whether or not it's his rule. He promotes it and uses it to benefit Kentucky.

"Promoting" doesn't mean he prefers the method over others; neither does me calling you "obtuse" mean I'm calling you round, fat or a non-sharp object.
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No, it's not. If you can get the best high school players, you get them. Cal can and does. You'd have to be a moron to turn them down. What's he going to tell them? Nah, I want to only recruit 4 year players so see ya Davis, Kidd-Gilchrist, etc. That's absurd. That doesn't have a damn thing to do with promoting it.
 
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utfan72408 said:
You realize almost all the other bubble teams lost today right?

We're fine. We got really lucky, but we're fine. No more losses though.
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Were fine????

You have to be kidding me.

Everything I have seen says Tennessee out.
 
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patrick said:
Were fine????

You have to be kidding me.

Everything I have seen says Tennessee out.
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Most had Tennessee out before today too. Today doesn't seem to have hurt us as badly as it could've. Almost as if today was a wash nationwide.
 
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patrick said:
Were fine????

You have to be kidding me.

Everything I have seen says Tennessee out.
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Out but still in the picture. Everyone else that matters also lost, so this loss didn't cripple our tourney chances like many believe(d). That's all I'm saying.

We could still get in if we take care of business.
 
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