Lollygagging

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SonOfGodVolforlife said:
I know what they said. I’ve never seen it reviewed before. Pretty ticky tacky, you’re told if the offense subs the defense subs , and those guys are told to take their time. If moi had known it was gonna be a penalty it wouldn’t have happened and we’ll probably never see it happen again.
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You've never seen too many men on the field being reviewed? Missed the 2010 LSU game?
 
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#53
Rules don't put a time on getting to the sidelines. Ref should stay on ball until substitutions made. Watch replay, ref wasn't even looking at the UT player, had his back to it. I remember UT having to use an offensive timeout under Heupel for the exact same scenario.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
Was a review requested? or was it just called in by the SEC.
There was an official standing on the sideline so the play on the field should stand.
I will bet it is not even a reviewable play. Sorry but this was BS.
Someone called this in from the booth and it was done without a flag on the field a good 30 Seconds after the fact.
We are going to get down to missed calls being phoned in from the booth.
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Have you wondered why all the officials wear headsets now and who is talking to them?
 
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I may be a bit off topic but it looked like GA snapped to the line on both sides of the ball and looked disciplined and ready to go on most plays.

TN often looked bewildered (especially the D) and like they weren’t ready to battle. Many times FA snapped the ball and TN D looking not ready.
 
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whobethis16 said:
A to Z is trash, and Zach Ragan is one of the worst. Any guy that tries to use a recruit to "break" a story like he did regarding the UK game time while being so clueless that the time of day was set months before is garbage.
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There have been articles he authored I don't like and I agree. This one was a hand picked article I happened to like.
 
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Vol737 said:
With sand bags in an enormous backpack....for an hour. That's inexcusable.
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It did look bad, but you do realize most teams are coaching their players to do that, right? I don't like it - to me it's a Kiffin-like mockery of the rules, but most teams are doing it. So, it was really just the kid doing what the coaches are telling him to do. He was just a little too blatant about it.
 
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Woodlawn VOL said:
Yes they moved on quickly. In other big games they would dissect the crap out of that and the squirrel catch. Yes the ball moved but his hand looked like it was under the ball. Fastest replay ever. BS! Squirrel also got mugged before ball even reached him one time and Fowler said perfect timing. What a joke. GBO
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Fowler should never be able to do another UT game EVER. I’m so sick of his biased crap. Doesn’t even try to hide his disrespect and distaste of the Vols. I actually muted him and just turned on 106.5 for commentary
 
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That would only happen when we're on offense man. Birmingham was coached, to allow Georgia to operate with impunity
 
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AdoptedVOL said:
I may be a bit off topic but it looked like GA snapped to the line on both sides of the ball and looked disciplined and ready to go on most plays.

TN often looked bewildered (especially the D) and like they weren’t ready to battle. Many times FA snapped the ball and TN D looking not ready.
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I agree with this completely. Really impressed that UGA defense was never out of position on defense, never bewildered, never trying to get the play from the sideline or get lined up late on defense in spite of how fast we go sometimes.

Yet, our defense is always looking to the sideline and still not lined up way too often when the offense is about to snap the ball. Huge, huge difference in operation, coaching acumen, etc. This was the exact issue that Kirby talked about in his presser and on Gameday and he and his staff delivered. They were well prepared. This is why I said after the game, UGA has a better program and better coaches. Our coaching staff needs to step up if we want to be considered in the class of the elites. Or changes made. Right now we're good for 8, 9, maybe 10 wins a year. But that's not elite and not playoff caliber year in year out. Heupel is 5-7 in true road games over the past three years. If you want to be elite you have to be better prepared to compete away from the friendly confines of Neyland.
 
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UT97Vol said:
Heupel is 5-7 in true road games over the past three years. If you want to be elite you have to be better prepared to compete away from the friendly confines of Neyland.
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Meanwhile… Alabama is losing @Vandy and UGA is 2-2 on the road in the SEC this year and barely won 13-12 at Lexington.

SEC road life is just hard.
 
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unfrozencvmanvol said:
They said last night it was a call the booth could initiate a review on. The eye in the sky saw the same lollygagging OP did. I remember thinking at the time "damn, hurry up". What pissed me off originally was that no flag was thrown on the field, but if it is a call that can be reviewed by the booth on its own initiation, I think we all can see what drew their attention in OP's video.
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I would like to see who the booth guy was. Clearly a UGA bias. The squirrel white catch they called back because the ball moved slightly at the ground, you had to really be looking to catch that. And they calls only went UGA way. Didn't stop any of UGA questionable calls. Not that that was the cause for the loss, allowing Beck to make 15 yard throws to wide open tightends 2 seconds after the snap was their downfall, but definitely didn't help.
 
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Al
GAVol said:
Meanwhile… Alabama is losing @Vandy and UGA is 2-2 on the road in the SEC this year and barely won 13-12 at Lexington.

SEC road life is just hard.
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Alabama has a new coach. What was their road record under Saban. What is Kirby's road record?

Yes, winning in the SEC is hard. Being elite is even harder. That's my point. Is that what we want or not? Our donation requirements and ticket costs seem to indicate that's what we want. But correct me if not true.
 
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UT97Vol said:
Al

Alabama has a new coach. What was their road record under Saban. What is Kirby's road record?

Yes, winning in the SEC is hard. Being elite is even harder. That's my point. Is that what we want or not? Our donation requirements and ticket costs seem to indicate that's what we want. But correct me if not true.
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I. Get. It.

My point is that I think pre and post transfer portal rosters are just going to be different animals and it's going to be a lot harder to stockpile talent survive a season 11-1 or better. The whole top of the SEC is going to be a pile of 6-2 teams with road losses and I'd bet that's going to become a lot more of a norm. The goal is going to be to make the playoff and see what happens.
 
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unfrozencvmanvol said:
They said last night it was a call the booth could initiate a review on. The eye in the sky saw the same lollygagging OP did. I remember thinking at the time "damn, hurry up". What pissed me off originally was that no flag was thrown on the field, but if it is a call that can be reviewed by the booth on its own initiation, I think we all can see what drew their attention in OP's video.
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I've still never seen that officiated that way. We were definitely pushing the envelope, but that's what everybody has been doing for the last few years.

The rule is goofy though. They ought to blow it dead and flag the defense for delay of game when a player isn't making a prudent effort; not go to a replay review to determine if a guy who was clearly leaving the game was a foot in bounds or out of bounds at the snap. Or even better. . . just say that the Center Judge is going to move out of the way at :05 on the play clock no matter what.
 
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GAVol said:
I. Get. It.

My point is that I think pre and post transfer portal rosters are just going to be different animals and it's going to be a lot harder to stockpile talent survive a season 11-1 or better. The whole top of the SEC is going to be a pile of 6-2 teams with road losses and I'd bet that's going to become a lot more of a norm. The goal is going to be to make the playoff and see what happens.
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Sounds depressing. lol I think the portal has helped us close the gap a bit to your point.

If every weekend in the SEC is going to be like a nascar race where there's parity across the board, it puts the onus on the coaching, preparation, and doing the little things right. Is that our staff? I certainly hope so.
 
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GAVol said:
I've still never seen that officiated that way. We were definitely pushing the envelope, but that's what everybody has been doing for the last few years.

The rule is goofy though. They ought to blow it dead and flag the defense for delay of game when a player isn't making a prudent effort; not go to a replay review to determine if a guy who was clearly leaving the game was a foot in bounds or out of bounds at the snap. Or even better. . . just say that the Center Judge is going to move out of the way at :05 on the play clock no matter what.
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It’s a slippery slope thing. If the new defenders walk or slow jog on and the replaced guys slow jog off, subbing can take 30 seconds. Practically, it prevents subbing even though a defense clearly has time to move people on and off in a reasonable manner.

It’s tough to draw a bright line and tell a defense “you have X seconds,” but it’s also clear that any reasonable line would require people to move faster than Moi was moving.

I hate it for Moi. He was doing as coached, but his highlight play for the night is getting a flag for jogging. It clearly hacked him off to have his effort questioned.
 
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