LSU, Oregon, and Oregon State require vaccine or negative test to attend football games [merged]

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Hallie said:
Finally somebody has some balls ... glad they are doing this hopefully Vols and others will follow .. sometimes you have to just do whats right !! Thank you ...
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You should change the title of this thread to be accurate. "LSU requires proof of vaccination or a negative test result."
 
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sjt18 said:
... If you want to know why this is being pushed so hard... follow the money.
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Exactly.
Like big government cares about my health and safety.

Why is the vaccine supposed to be soooooo much better than the fact that people got the virus and now have antibodies?
They can't prove the vaccine lasts a year, 2 years, 5 years, ect ... 'cause it ain't been out long enough for their to be data.

Furthermore, what about things like when young adults now, who take the vaccine, try to have children in a few years: can they guarantee the vaccine won't make them sterile or cause birth defects (just as an example)?

Of course not.
Like you said, follow the money ...
 
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sjt18 said:
So you don't mind this kind of violation of civil liberties?

Let's try your commitment to this principle. How about flu vaccines? How about proof that someone doesn't have HIV or other serious STD since they might meet an unsuspecting new partner at a game?

Why not demand your complete vaccination record and medical history? Just how far are you really willing to go in giving up your RIGHT to keep your medical data private?

I had Covid in January. The CDC gravely warns people that they do not have research showing how long natural immunity lasts... they claimed 90 days. I'm at 7 months and still have antibodies. A study from Washington U in St Louis with a significant sample group had their participants up to 11 months around 3 months ago.

Oh, btw, the Covid vaccines are what is known as "leaky vaccines". They don't give a % of those taking the vaccine 100% immunity. Smallpox vaccines are so close to 100% with 100% immunity that it has been eliminated from all modern societies. Leaky vaccines give a significant number of recipients a lower risk of getting Covid. They claim 90% but most vaccinated people experience very mild symptoms... but are FULLY capable of spreading the virus. A comprehensive study of new Covid cases in 7000 people in Israel showed 40% fully vaccinated. Only 1% were reinfections in people who previously had Covid.

If you want to know why this is being pushed so hard... follow the money.
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Beautiful. Covid barely scares me. Americans trembling in fear from State propaganda so eager to throw away their rights and freedoms for a sliver of security TERRIFY me!
 
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preacherwebb said:
Exactly.
Like big government cares about my health and safety.
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Health and safety aren't driving this by anyone. This is ONLY a move to coerce people into taking the vaccine. It is well known now that fully vaccinated people can get it with very mild symptoms while being very prone to spread it. Being "fully vaccinated" when entering a game pretty much assures that actively infected people will enter and spread the virus without knowing it.

Why is the vaccine supposed to be soooooo much better than the fact that people got the virus and now have antibodies?
They can't prove the vaccine lasts a year, 2 years, 5 years, ect ... 'cause it ain't been out long enough for their to be data.
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That's the odd thing... well maybe not so odd. I went on the CDC's website today. It is loaded with apologetics for the vaccines. Only one article a couple of articles came up when I searched for natural immunity. One deceptively claimed that people who've had it and then vaccinated were half as likely to get the virus than those who just have natural immunity. That's technically true but what they fail to mention is that natural immunity provides 99% effective protection. So you are talking about improving it to 99.5% by taking a vaccine that may very well harm you.

Another article mentions in passing something very important. Both the vaccines and natural immunity work in basically the same way. They provoke an immune response that your body "learns" and stores in your marrow. Yet they claim without observed data that the vaccines will last a long time or for life... while refusing to make such claims about natural immunity due to a lack of evidence. If they lack evidence due to time and observation to establish the duration of natural immunity... where did the data come for vaccines that have been used for less than half the time that natural immunity has been acting against the virus? They're not telling the truth.

Furthermore, what about things like when young adults now, who take the vaccine, try to have children in a few years: can they guarantee the vaccine won't make them sterile or cause birth defects (just as an example)?

Of course not.
Like you said, follow the money ...
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That's scary but also may be untrue. We simply don't know. There isn't much if any real evidence proving it either way.

Unfortunately if it is true... people are being bullied, coerced, and tricked into taking these vaccines... after signing a release that strips them of their right to hold those pushing and profiting from the vaccines culpable.
 
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Sara Clark said:
I hope LSU is prepared to refund season tickets costs. Should have been a stipulation before they started taking money.

**Edit** The title of this thread is NOT ACCURATE. Proof of vaccination or a "negative test"
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Im sure they are ..sometimes health is more important ..I commend them ...
 
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Hallie said:
Im sure they are ..sometimes health is more important ..I commend them ...
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This isn't about "health"... and which of your other civil liberties are you willing to give up in the name of "health".

Little piece of history. The Fascists in Germany had a term- Volksgesundheit. It meant that the health of the "nation" took precedence over the rights and health of the individual. We are seeing Progressives (the ideological twin of fascists) promote the same idea today. It was used in the same way you propose bullying people into vaccination.... "for the health and safety of all". Except that neither then nor now did proof exist to support what was being forced on the populace. Once the principle was established in Germany... boundaries were trampled pretty quickly. It became justification for things like sterilization and even termination of mentally handicapped people or those with genetic diseases. Ultimately... it was used to justify experiments on living Jews.

You may have the very best of intentions but what you're promoting is a VERY dangerous power to give government or any other authority.
 
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Devo182 said:
If you want to commit a crime, I suppose. Is it worth forging government documents to get into a game? Just take a 15 minute test and boom.
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It’s not a government doc and not even close. It’s a card from big pharma. I have one. It’s dumb. No way this does any good. Vaccinated people can pass the virus as well as in vaxxed. There is no way an usher can tell if it’s a valid or a fake and they won’t care. It’s all show. Also the African American community is only like 25% vaccinated so it’s also a form of segregation.
 
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Dudleys87 said:
They can’t get people at jobs that require working you really think they’re gonna line up to scan tickets and make sure your vac card is legit?

See there’s always an answer. My brain actually works.
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This guy gets it. The people checking won’t care. It’s dumb
 
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