LSU Players Possibly Suspended

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LawVol13 said:
So, now your evidence is that there were some players who weren't even charged with a crime, and that makes this situation similar to Jefferson's? Jesus, how much further can you possibly reach?
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Bro,

What do you not understand about the words "involved", "arrested", and "charged"? I only ever suggested one, so don't argue the other two.
 
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bamawriter said:
Bro,

What do you not understand about the words "involved", "arrested", and "charged"? I only ever suggested one, so don't argue the other two.
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So, in other words, you really don't have a point at all because there are no similarities between a person not even charged with a crime and one that is, correct?
 
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LawVol13 said:
So, in other words, you really don't have a point at all because there are no similarities between a person not even charged with a crime and one that is, correct?
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I'll ask again: are you saying that no Tennessee players were involved in the fight? None threw a punch, shoved, kicked, etc?
 
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bamawriter said:
I'll ask again: are you saying that no Tennessee players were involved in the fight? None threw a punch, shoved, kicked, etc?
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I've answered 50 times. Face it, you don't have a point. You've gone to great lengths to analogize this to the LSU situation. Guess what? It's not similar. If you're now to the point of pointing at people that were never questioned, suspended, or charged with a crime to make your point, you ought to just let it go.
 
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LawVol13 said:
I've answered 50 times. Face it, you don't have a point. You've gone to great lengths to analogize this to the LSU situation. Guess what? It's not similar. If you're now to the point of pointing at people that were never questioned, suspended, or charged with a crime to make your point, you ought to just let it go.
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You haven't answered my question, you've answered questions I didn't ask such as "Were any UT players arrested or charged for assault?"

I understand that Jefferson was legally accused of assault, which no current Vol was. That doesn't mean that no current Vol was involved in that fight. Perhaps Jefferson is so stupid that he made it easy to get caught. Or perhaps the BRPD is more adept than the KPD. Either way, UT's situation was identical to LSU's except for the legal proceedings unless you actually think that no Vol was actually involved.
 
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bamawriter said:
Either way, UT's situation was identical to LSU's except for the legal proceedings unless you actually think that no Vol was actually involved.
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Yea, those pesky crime that are the basis of the suspensions always seem to change things. That sentence is about like saying what I posted earlier, "Besides being completely different, they're really similar."
 
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LawVol13 said:
Yea, those pesky crime that are the basis of the suspensions always seem to change things. That sentence is about like saying what I posted earlier, "Besides being completely different, they're really similar."
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I never once argued that any UT should or should not have been suspended. If it makes you feel morally superior to LSU that they are playing someone who was charged in a bar fight while Tennessee is playing some players who were involved in a bar fight, but not charged, then good for you.
 
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bamawriter said:
I never once argued that any UT should or should not have been suspended. If it makes you feel morally superior to LSU that they are playing someone who was charged in a bar fight while Tennessee is playing some players who were involved in a bar fight, but not charged, then good for you.
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I don't feel morally superior at all. The facts are: you've constructed a completely bull crap argument about two situations that aren't the same. If our players had beaten the piss out of someone with 100 witnesses, they would have been charged. They weren't. End of story. It's not like the Jefferson situation no matter how much you pretend.
 
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Tyrann Mathieu, Spencer Ware, and Tharold Simon.

were suspended for aubie game thats all they have listed as games gonna be missed
 
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LawVol13 said:
I don't feel morally superior at all. The facts are: you've constructed a completely bull crap argument about two situations that aren't the same. If our players had beaten the piss out of someone with 100 witnesses, they would have been charged. They weren't. End of story. It's not like the Jefferson situation no matter how much you pretend.
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Jefferson beat the crap out of a guy during a fight at a bar. Several Vols players got involved in a fight at a bar, during which a guy got the crap beaten out of him.

Nothing similar there.
 
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bamawriter said:
Jefferson beat the crap out of a guy during a fight at a bar. Several Vols players got involved in a fight at a bar, during which a guy got the crap beaten out of him.

Nothing similar there.
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You're right. The players didn't beat the crap out of him in one, and a player did in the other. I'm not sure how that's difficult to grasp.
 
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LawVol13 said:
You're right. The players didn't beat the crap out of him in one, and a player did in the other. I'm not sure how that's difficult to grasp.
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That's the first time you've come close to answering the question "were UT players involved in the fight."

You are saying that there isn't anyone playing for UT who was involved in that fight. I appreciate you finally answering me.
 
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bamawriter said:
That's the first time you've come close to answering the question "were UT players involved in the fight."

You are saying that there isn't anyone playing for UT who was involved in that fight. I appreciate you finally answering me.
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You're pretty sad.
 
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bamawriter said:
Only if you aren't gonna give me a hug...
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Haha. You're actually not that bad of a poster from what I've seen, but the point you're trying to make here is totally failing. I'd be the first to admit it if I thought they were, in any way, analogous situations.
 
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LawVol13 said:
Haha. You're actually not that bad of a poster from what I've seen, but the point you're trying to make here is totally failing. I'd be the first to admit it if I thought they were, in any way, analogous situations.
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I think you're going a little legalistic on this, which I guess isn't shocking. In the end, I think we're arguing two different points, and I don't really disagree with you on the point you're arguing.
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bamawriter said:
I think you're going a little legalistic on this, which I guess isn't shocking. In the end, I think we're arguing two different points, and I don't really disagree with you on the point you're arguing.
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Fair enough.
 
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DrunkJohnny said:
False. The DNA evidence was just "inconclusive" when they tested his 500 pairs of Air Jordans. He was, however, identified by the man that got skull-****ed. Not enough in LA apparently.

Yea, just a normal ole bar fight. People get charged with felonies after those all the time.
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Whether they had DNA has nothing to do with the crime being categorized as a felony or not. The grand jury had information that Jefferson was involved in the fight and did not believe it met the level of felony.

Heck, if this was you, you wouldn't have been charged with anything and you wouldn't have had a search warrant issued.

Yes, it was just a normal bar fight, happens all the time. Either way I see no reason for him to be kicked off the team but I do see plenty of reason for him to be sitting on the bench.

As far as LSU handling this, top notch just like every time there is some incident with their players. If they find out about something they take immediate action even when not required by NCAA rules. I have no problem with this, players screwed up LSU took action, Jefferson was in an alleged fight, he was suspended until they got additional information.

I actually would like to see Ware suspended "indefinite" until he cleans up his attitude or he can just go some place else.
 
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