Lunardi's early early bracket is up

#27
#27
Shaun1985 said:
Ole Miss isn't even finished .500 in the conference tourney so no way they get a 5 or anything else. CAK is a joke and since MSU straightend up, the biggest joke in that state. Kentucky is a 3 or 4 seed at best, UT at least a 5 seed. Mizzou could be a 4 seed but Florida is probably spot on IMO.
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I think people expecting a 5 seed or better from UT next year are being setup for disappointment. I'm not saying its out of the realm of possibility, but there needs to be some major improvement from the guard positions for me to be comfortable putting them in that discussion. McRae is key. He needs to take the next step.
 
#34
#34
zansdad said:
People are crazy high on Florida. I guess Beal leaving is not supposed to be a big deal.
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Beal is good, but its not like they are losing Carmelo Anthony. Florida will be very good next year IMO. They are better at PG with Rosario. Boynton is back. Young and Yeguette return in the post along with Murphy. I expect them to be as good, or better at every position except SF on a team that made it to the Elite 8. I don't see why everyone is down on them.
 
#35
#35
zansdad said:
Yes I am. They weren't one of the best 8 teams last year and they lost more than they are gaining.
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I disagree about the losses. Losing Beal is the only concern. Replacing Walker with Rosario, assuming he stays healthy, is addition by subtraction IMO. Braxton Ogbueze, FR guard, will be a real nice addition for them.

Also, they made it to the Elite 8, so I guess its difficult to argue that they weren't one if the best 8 teams when it counted.
 
#37
#37
cncchris33 said:
I disagree about the losses. Losing Beal is the only concern. Replacing Walker with Rosario, assuming he stays healthy, is addition by subtraction IMO. Braxton Ogbueze, FR guard, will be a real nice addition for them.

Also, they made it to the Elite 8, so I guess its difficult to argue that they weren't one if the best 8 teams when it counted.
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You seem to really like Rosario, maybe I'm in the minority but he's an issue IMO. Dude likes shooting more than walker, and isn't he PG walker was IMO.

Going ahead and saying Rosario will be better than walker IMO isn't accurate.
 
#38
#38
cncchris33 said:
No. None of them have officially declared.
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Actually...

“@AdamZagoria: Anthony Davis, Terrence Jones & Marquis Teague all coming out, source confirms to @SNYtv. Would expect MKG & Lamb, too.”


“@AdamZagoria: Doron Lamb's father tells @SNYtv he "doesn't know" if Doron will come out or not”

It appears lamb is the only one that may returning now.
 
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#39
#39
bleedingTNorange said:
You seem to really like Rosario, maybe I'm in the minority but he's an issue IMO. Dude likes shooting more than walker, and isn't he PG walker was IMO.

Going ahead and saying Rosario will be better than walker IMO isn't accurate.
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It's not so much that I'm in love with Rosario as much as I think Walker was a liability. He was very limited because of his size. Rosario is 6-3, can guard multiple positions, and can finish in the paint. Those are things Walker couldn't do efficiently because he's 5-8. Both are streaky shooters. My opinion that Rosario will be better for Florida is based on his versatility, size and skill set. Walker was an absolute overachiever given his size, but that size did limit what he could do.
 
#40
#40
bleedingTNorange said:
Actually...

“@AdamZagoria: Anthony Davis, Terrence Jones & Marquis Teague all coming out, source confirms to @SNYtv. Would expect MKG & Lamb, too.”


“@AdamZagoria: Doron Lamb's father tells @SNYtv he "doesn't know" if Doron will come out or not”

It appears lamb is the only one that may returning now.
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Well, that is EXTREMELY new information. According to Zag, in an article from this morning at 10:53 am, there was no official word on any of the UK guys.
 
#41
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And for the record, none of them have OFFICIALLY declared, which is what I said earlier, and is still true. On the contrary, you incorrectly stated that all had declared. Point being, nothing is official yet, though we all know they are all likely going to declare at some point.
 
#42
#42
cncchris33 said:
And for the record, none of them have OFFICIALLY declared, which is what I said earlier, and is still true. On the contrary, you incorrectly stated that all had declared. Point being, nothing is official yet, though we all know they are all likely going to declare at some point.
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The players haven't come out and done a presser yet correct, but those 3 have all told multiple sources today now that they will declare officially.

I had thought originally it was all of them so that ma my bad, but 3 not none have declared. If you want to wait on a presser ok, but those 3 are informing sources and already informed family they are declaring.
 
#43
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bleedingTNorange said:
The players haven't come out and done a presser yet correct, but those 3 have all told multiple sources today now that they will declare officially.

I had thought originally it was all of them so that ma my bad, but 3 not none have declared. If you want to wait on a presser ok, but those 3 are informing sources and already informed family they are declaring.
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Well, we can argue semantics all day, but you are making statements based on what "sources" are telling a local reporter in Lexington. They are saying no more than what anyone else with an opinion and a forum are saying. That's hardly the kind of info I'd use to make a lock-tight conclusion. See Randy Shannon to UT as DC as proof of that. I'll wait to hear it from the horses' mouth.

Again, you say they have declared. By definition, I disagree. To declare, the actual person has to make a public declaration, which none have done as of yet. Sources don't do it for me because sources are all too often wrong.
 
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#45
#45
cncchris33 said:
Well, we can argue semantics all day, but you are making statements based on what "sources" are telling a local reporter in Lexington. They are saying no more than what anyone else with an opinion and a forum are saying. That's hardly the kind of info I'd use to make a lock-tight conclusion. See Randy Shannon to UT as DC as proof of that. I'll wait to hear it from the horses' mouth.

Again, you say they have declared. By definition, I disagree. To declare, the actual person has to make a public declaration, which none have done as of yet. Sources don't do it for me because sources are all too often wrong.
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Zags isn't bleacher report, but I get what you're saying.

But seeing as how UK has released a statement announcing a presser for tomorrow at 2, to announce the expected declarations of all 5 underclassmen, I'll believe him.

Once again, if you prefer to wait until you actually hear it from their mouth I get it. I am choosing to believe Zags and UK on this one though.
 
#46
#46
bleedingTNorange said:
Zags isn't bleacher report, but I get what you're saying.

But seeing as how UK has released a statement announcing a presser for tomorrow at 2, to announce the expected declarations of all 5 underclassmen, I'll believe him.

Once again, if you prefer to wait until you actually hear it from their mouth I get it. I am choosing to believe Zags and UK on this one though.
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I agree on Zag. He is usually good for his info. But, in this case, he is getting his info from the ABC affiliate in Lexington, at least that's how I understood it. The ABC guy is getting info from "sources," so Zag seems to be reporting, at best, second-hand info.

Like I said, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure, at least 4 of the 5 are gone, and I am of the belief that all 5 are gone.
 
#47
#47
I'm glad Vandy isn't up there. They will struggle a lot this season. They lose nearly every starter on their team.
 
#48
#48
cncchris33 said:
I disagree about the losses. Losing Beal is the only concern. Replacing Walker with Rosario, assuming he stays healthy, is addition by subtraction IMO. Braxton Ogbueze, FR guard, will be a real nice addition for them.

Also, they made it to the Elite 8, so I guess its difficult to argue that they weren't one if the best 8 teams when it counted.
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Final 8 doesn't make a team one of the 8 best teams. You know that as well as I do. If you use that logic then Butler was the 2nd best team in the country 2 of the last 3 years. Or that Grorgia was the best team in the SEC the year of the tornado in Atlanta.
 
#49
#49
cncchris33 said:
Beal is good, but its not like they are losing Carmelo Anthony. Florida will be very good next year IMO. They are better at PG with Rosario. Boynton is back. Young and Yeguette return in the post along with Murphy. I expect them to be as good, or better at every position except SF on a team that made it to the Elite 8. I don't see why everyone is down on them.
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Beal is a lottery pick. If you lose a lottery pick and don't replace him with equal talent, how can you be better?
 
#50
#50
bleedingTNorange said:
9 is a little lower than I am hoping for. Im hoping to be top 25 most of the year and get around a 6 or 7.

Just being back in the dance though will be nice.
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I agree. I don't think it's unfair, but as you said, a 6 or 7 sounds better. Then again, there are 6 months until the season starts.
 
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