'22 MA WR Elic Ayomanor (Stanford commit)

[cncchris33]

The most Ryan Callahan answer possible

I would’ve posted the exact same thing had you not beat me to it.

 

[Rylee_Vol18]

The most Ryan Callahan answer possible

How so?

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

How so?

A lot of words to really say nothing at all.

 

[Big Gucci Sosa]

After those two, Elic Ayomanor should be off the board by the middle of August. Ayomanor, who wants to major in dentistry, has been hearing the pitch from Tennessee about their dental school. We have felt like it was a total toss up between the Vols and Stanford. While that is the case we are giving Tennessee the slight edge with a couple weeks to go. Means nothing as it’s just an opinion. It’s just our gut feel for where it currently stands.
VQ

 

[norrislakevol]

This guy is woefully under rated IMO. If not for COVID and an injury he would easily be a 4 star. Great size, good speed, and good route running skills. Could be an early contributor.

 

[MadisonvilleVol]

I wonder if he is smart.

After those two, Elic Ayomanor should be off the board by the middle of August. Ayomanor, who wants to major in dentistry, has been hearing the pitch from Tennessee about their dental school. We have felt like it was a total toss up between the Vols and Stanford. While that is the case we are giving Tennessee the slight edge with a couple weeks to go. Means nothing as it’s just an opinion. It’s just our gut feel for where it currently stands.
VQ

I guess this answers that. He must really be a smart elic.

 

[NighthawkVol]

Right, I also remember that Nick Sabans first class had 25 players in it. They were all 3 stars according to Rivals, including Mark Ingram.

It was a class of 32 signees and was ranked #1 in America by Rivals, #3 by 247. But Saban had already built a reputation at LSU. Julio Jones, Tyler Love, and BJ Scott were all 5*s according to 247. Mark Barron and about 16 others were 4*s, including Mark Ingram.

So basically, nothing in your post about Saban’s first class at Bama is accurate.

Alabama 2008 Football Commits

 

[sjt18]

It was a class of 32 signees and was ranked #1 in America by Rivals, #3 by 247. But Saban had already built a reputation at LSU. Julio Jones, Tyler Love, and BJ Scott were all 5*s according to 247. Mark Barron and about 16 others were 4*s, including Mark Ingram.

So basically, nothing in your post about Saban’s first class at Bama is accurate.

Alabama 2008 Football Commits

Technically his first signing class was 2007. It had 10 4*, 12 3*, and 3 guys rated below 3*.

I'm not sure how to relate that to Heupel due to Covid and the lateness of his hire. The '22 class could be the fairest comparison to Saban's 2007 class. A lot has changed since then. Possibly the rule that screws rebuilding programs the hardest is the 25 class limit. Who knows how that might have been for Saban under that rule.

 

[NighthawkVol]

Technically his first signing class was 2007. It had 10 4*, 12 3*, and 3 guys rated below 3*.

I'm not sure how to relate that to Heupel due to Covid and the lateness of his hire. The '22 class could be the fairest comparison to Saban's 2007 class. A lot has changed since then. Possibly the rule that screws rebuilding programs the hardest is the 25 class limit. Who knows how that might have been for Saban under that rule.

Very true. I remember that they nearly pulled Joe McKnight out of the hat, but he went to USC in the end. But the poster to whom I was responding mentioned the Mark Ingram class, which was 2008. Saban's 2008 class is the equivalent of Heupel's 2022 class, since both were/will be the first class signed after the respective coach's first season. Of course, the rules have changed since then with the strict 25 limit and the early signing period, so tough to compare.

All that said, I'm in the camp that I'm going to trust my coach to sign the guys he needs for his system and his culture in order to win with his approach, whether they're 2*s or 5*s. I also think, as others have mentioned, that if Heupel starts winning, guys he offers will be rated higher, just as they already were for Saban because of his track record when Bama hired him. So in that sense, recruiting rankings can be a self-fulfilling thing.

 

[sjt18]

Very true. I remember that they nearly pulled Joe McKnight out of the hat, but he went to USC in the end. But the poster to whom I was responding mentioned the Mark Ingram class, which was 2008. Saban's 2008 class is the equivalent of Heupel's 2022 class, since both were/will be the first class signed after the respective coach's first season. Of course, the rules have changed since then with the strict 25 limit and the early signing period, so tough to compare.

All that said, I'm in the camp that I'm going to trust my coach to sign the guys he needs for his system and his culture in order to win with his approach, whether they're 2*s or 5*s. I also think, as others have mentioned, that if Heupel starts winning, guys he offers will be rated higher, just as they already were for Saban because of his track record when Bama hired him. So in that sense, recruiting rankings can be a self-fulfilling thing.

Could not possibly agree more. I think a lot of people miss this fact.

 

[PA Vol]

It was a class of 32 signees and was ranked #1 in America by Rivals, #3 by 247. But Saban had already built a reputation at LSU. Julio Jones, Tyler Love, and BJ Scott were all 5*s according to 247. Mark Barron and about 16 others were 4*s, including Mark Ingram.

So basically, nothing in your post about Saban’s first class at Bama is accurate.

Alabama 2008 Football Commits

That year was absolutely insane for instate recruiting in Alabama.

Three 5 stars, nine 4 stars, and six 3 stars. Their six highest ranked players were all in-state. Insane.

 

[norrislakevol]

It was a class of 32 signees and was ranked #1 in America by Rivals, #3 by 247. But Saban had already built a reputation at LSU. Julio Jones, Tyler Love, and BJ Scott were all 5*s according to 247. Mark Barron and about 16 others were 4*s, including Mark Ingram.

So basically, nothing in your post about Saban’s first class at Bama is accurate.

Alabama 2008 Football Commits

Yeah I know. I looked it up after the fact and had no idea why I had remembered it the way I did. Oh well, should have researched it again before posting!

 

[norrislakevol]

Technically his first signing class was 2007. It had 10 4*, 12 3*, and 3 guys rated below 3*.

I'm not sure how to relate that to Heupel due to Covid and the lateness of his hire. The '22 class could be the fairest comparison to Saban's 2007 class. A lot has changed since then. Possibly the rule that screws rebuilding programs the hardest is the 25 class limit. Who knows how that might have been for Saban under that rule.

This was the one I was remembering, but I sure didn't remember any 4 stars. Went back and looked after the fact, and sure enough, there they were.

 

[NighthawkVol]

That year was absolutely insane for instate recruiting in Alabama.

Three 5 stars, nine 4 stars, and six 3 stars. Their six highest ranked players were all in-state. Insane.

Tennessee had a similar instate class in 2014, but didn’t capitalize on it.

 

[allvolrecruiting]

WR Elic Ayomanor goes in-depth on top five as decision nears

 

[T Dog]

We need more smart Elic's and Nimrod's on the team. Imo

 

[Maxwell865]

Tennessee: "One thing about Tennessee is I really like the new coaching staff. I think their offense is super explosive, which shows through statistics at the previous schools they've been at like UCF and Missouri. And then it's just kind of the family feel they have there. I like how all the coaches incorporated that family feel within the program. It felt like a place where you were really at home, and they did a good job of keeping in contact with my mom and the rest of my family. I thought that was a really good aspect with them, and then like I said, the offense is a 'can't miss.' "

-Dohn

 

[T2P_Priceless]

-Dohn

Vol

 

[NMVol]

I can't remember a player for the Vols out of Massachusetts.

 

[Vol Main]

No recruiting expert here, but this guy looks like he's on a higher level. He's got it all. Hope he decides to play at Tennessee.

 

[Fingers]

When the next commitment happens might depend on whether Tennessee is able to land Elic Ayomanor. That one still appears to be primarily a Stanford-Tennessee battle, and while some people close to his recruitment think Stanford might be the team to beat – that is, as long as he’s able to get into school there, which is rarely a sure thing with Stanford – Tennessee has made things pretty interesting regardless of what happens with that. Ayomanor has continued to discuss announcing a decision within the next couple weeks.

callahan

 

[walkenvol]

Wonder if Callahan can name one player who Stanford recruited hard that wasn’t admitted there? Maybe Callahan doesn’t know that Stanford’s top athletes don’t go through the same admission process as the rest of the student body. Remember the recent admissions scandal where some celebrities served some jail time for paying to have their kids admitted via the athlete process.

 

[VolinMichigan]

Wonder if Callahan can name one player who Stanford recruited hard that wasn’t admitted there? Maybe Callahan doesn’t know that Stanford’s top athletes don’t go through the same admission process as the rest of the student body. Remember the recent admissions scandal where some celebrities served some jail time for paying to have their kids admitted via the athlete process.

Well yeah. They’re an Ivy League school playing in a power five conference. They have to keep up somehow.

 

[Big Gucci Sosa]

The next prospect to come off the board is Elic Ayomanor and the Canadian born wideout is still in a holding pattern with the Vols and Stanford really the only two left in this one. He has yet to sit down and work toward a decision but Tennessee has really put the time in with him to get him the knowledge about their dental school and how former players who were academically driven excelled off the field. He is very aware of Josh Dobbs and how he tackled aeronautical engineering and football. Ironically, Stanford recruited Dobbs for baseball.
VQ

 

[daugag02]

The next prospect to come off the board is Elic Ayomanor and the Canadian born wideout is still in a holding pattern with the Vols and Stanford really the only two left in this one. He has yet to sit down and work toward a decision but Tennessee has really put the time in with him to get him the knowledge about their dental school and how former players who were academically driven excelled off the field. He is very aware of Josh Dobbs and how he tackled aeronautical engineering and football. Ironically, Stanford recruited Dobbs for baseball.
VQ

So when AP said that Elic has been in contact with people who have been recruited by both UT and Stanford in the past, he means that Elic has talked to Dobbs.

Good job by the staff linking those two together.