Mac McClung

[TMvol10]

We need depth and we need help scoring the ball, so yes I would take him in a heart beat

 

[k-town_king]

Turner has hit big shots. McClung has been the better individual player.

 

[Kingofkodak]

A two guard playing point. A clutch shooter who has made big shot after big shot in his Vol career. A player fighting through a shoulder injury who gives his all for UT. That’s what Turner is!

Turner is a Natural 2 but has to play out of position. Sure he can play PG but not for 40 minutes as an effective PG. Turner in my opinion would be much more effective at the 2. I do not know if the incoming PG will play, (hoping he can help out at PG this year) but this would free Turner up in order to find his shot. JMO! Not trying to argue with anyone.

 

[Fullfillmer]

It isn't rocket science - yes we could definitely use McClung - just watched a little of his play - he would solve a lot of problems for us. Don't ever say "do not want" for anybody with a 2 to 1 assist to turnover ratio who shoots 42% plus from 3 point range. He could help us - he could help anybody. He is a smart, heady player with a good bb i.q. I like his overall game and he would definitely fit what we are trying to do.

Regarding the clutter regarding that he might not fit in for other reasons -- that also makes no sense. I just think we missed on him because frankly he played at a very small school. Looks like almost everyone missed on him. He's a baller - we could use him. I am not sure how but Barnes was able to recognize that Fulkerson could be a really good player - I don't think many would have seen that 3 or 4 years ago.

 

[Volsfaninva917]

Logic would dictate you choosing a player who has been a key cog in over 80+ victories in his career, and hit countless big shots, and had been absolute dog during his time on the hill. You'd give up on that for a player who's had a nice couple of weeks ?!

Again, I said McClung would help this years team. I complemented Turner, never did I say I wanted to choose 1 being on the team over the other. So, I'll ask again would it not help having McClung on this roster

 

[Volsfaninva917]

Did you even read my post?

Your assuming a lot, because he scores 16 points for GT.

Tennessee’s current pg has WAY more assists than does Mac (more than 3 times more per game)......but if you want to look at it that way, Mac would have 7 turnovers per game at Tennessee.

I honestly don’t know if he could help Tennessee or not. I do know Tennessee could use some extra scoring; however Tennessee would also need that “extra scorer” to play “Tennessee” defense........something that Mac doesn’t do.

we also don’t even know if he could handle the ball or make decisions for Tennessee’s offense......and he would also be defended much differently at Tennessee (if he were the starting pg for Tennessee).

And you're assuming he's not smart enough to make the right decisions in Tennessee's offense

 

[ABINGDON VOL FAN]

I’m sry, I just don’t see the defense that would be required at Tennessee.......to simply “plug and play.”

I’ll certainly watch as much as I can (that is aired) as I like to watch all college basketball I can.

I will say given time, he “could” be a decent player for Tennessee......if he were here. A player like he could learn the system, and improve on D, and could become a decent player for Tennessee. However I was first responding to someone saying “he does this” so basically he could do that now at Tennessee........which is FAR from truth......simply because things aren’t equal.

I guess we can revisit the issue later this year.

 

[JoAllan]

And you're assuming he's not smart enough to make the right decisions in Tennessee's offense

No

You clearly didn’t even read the post. I replied to someone making an “apples to apples” comment.........and said “IF” apples to apples he would make a ton of turnovers........has nothing to do with “smart enough.” Apples to apples he assists 2 per and commits 2 turnovers per, and that would be much greater at Tennessee.

I then said “I don’t know if he could help Tennessee or not”.........and NONE of us do, because it’s not “apples to apples.” He has never played in the Tennessee system. He does not play defense like it is required at Tennessee. He is not the “PG” that Turner is. He can play ball, he can score, and he is a good for GT.........no one knows what he could do here, but we could gather he could score......how prolific......no one knows......we also know he would have a hard time at D (here at Tennessee) as his defense isn’t up to Tennessee level, how long would it take him to adjust and improve......no one knows.

I didn’t make any “assumptions”......just speaking the truth.......you can’t drop player A off on team B and assume he can do what he did at team C, because it’s much different. The team is different, the O and the D is different, the coaches are different, the team mates are different, the opponents are different.........everything is different.

 

[ABINGDON VOL FAN]

It isn't rocket science - yes we could definitely use McClung - just watched a little of his play - he would solve a lot of problems for us. Don't ever say "do not want" for anybody with a 2 to 1 assist to turnover ratio who shoots 42% plus from 3 point range. He could help us - he could help anybody. He is a smart, heady player with a good bb i.q. I like his overall game and he would definitely fit what we are trying to do.

Regarding the clutter regarding that he might not fit in for other reasons -- that also makes no sense. I just think we missed on him because frankly he played at a very small school. Looks like almost everyone missed on him. He's a baller - we could use him. I am not sure how but Barnes was able to recognize that Fulkerson could be a really good player - I don't think many would have seen that 3 or 4 years ago.

I agree everyone missed on him because he played in a lower class. I do not blame coaching staffs because it is not flawed logic to not pay as much attention to players at smaller schools. Ewing for whatever reason offered the scholarship and wound up with the best player on Georgetown’s roster.

 

[ABINGDON VOL FAN]

No

You clearly didn’t even read the post. I replied to someone making an “apples to apples” comment.........and said “IF” apples to apples he would make a ton of turnovers........has nothing to do with “smart enough.” Apples to apples he assists 2 per and commits 2 turnovers per, and that would be much greater at Tennessee.

I then said “I don’t know if he could help Tennessee or not”.........and NONE of us do, because it’s not “apples to apples.” He has never played in the Tennessee system. He does not play defense like it is required at Tennessee. He is not the “PG” that Turner is. He can play ball, he can score, and he is a good for GT.........no one knows what he could do here, but we could gather he could score......how prolific......no one knows......we also know he would have a hard time at D (here at Tennessee) as his defense isn’t up to Tennessee level, how long would it take him to adjust and improve......no one knows.

I didn’t make any “assumptions”......just speaking the truth.......you can’t drop player A off on team B and assume he can do what he did at team C, because it’s much different. The team is different, the O and the D is different, the coaches are different, the team mates are different, the opponents are different.........everything is different.

Of course his game would be different at Tn. He still would fit in wherever he played at.

 

[ABINGDON VOL FAN]

I wasn’t the one who came up with the comparison now was I?

And hey if you want to go by a “very” small sample size.....go ahead.

I’ll simply say it again. Mac is a good scorer, he is NOT a real good defender.......and that would be key if he were at Tennessee.

I also said he was fine for GT, which he is.......just don’t think it would work here, simply because of the O and D Tennessee runs.

If Mac were to avg 20 pts and be productive offensively and only average defensively , I guarantee you Barnes would like him in UT’s roster.

 

[JoAllan]

I guess we can revisit the issue later this year.

No need to.

As I have clearly been talking about simply dropping Mac off here at Tennessee.....right now.

It doesn’t matter what he does at GT, none of us know what he would/could do at Tennessee or “if” he would even be a good fit.......”plug and play.”

I’m confident it would take him a while to learn a new system, to find his role, and to improve on defense........how long, who knows......but he simply couldn’t be inserted into the Tennessee line up, start from day one, be a better PG, play 35 min per, and score 13 points per......from day one.

And that is noting on Mac or against Mac......that is simply asking WAY too much for someone who has never step foot on the Tennessee floor.

 

[JoAllan]

Of course his game would be different at Tn. He still would fit in wherever he played at.

How in heck do you know that? seriously.

He is a good player for GT, but it certainly isn’t like this guy is the next Morant.

Blackshear was the top rated transfer. He was supposed to be “the man.” Blackshear is in his senior season, and instead of improving.......he is, even or worse (in almost every category) than he was last year.......yet somehow Mac would come in and be just fine.

I seriously don’t think some people understand it isn’t as easy as it looks.....and just because your good at one place doesn’t mean you will be at another.

 

[ABINGDON VOL FAN]

How in heck do you know that? seriously.

He is a good player for GT, but it certainly isn’t like this guy is the next Morant.

Blackshear was the top rated transfer. He was supposed to be “the man.” Blackshear is in his senior season, and instead of improving.......he is, even or worse (in almost every category) than he was last year.......yet somehow Mac would come in and be just fine.

I seriously don’t think some people understand it isn’t as easy as it looks.....and just because your good at one place doesn’t mean you will be at another.

He would fit in anywhere because he is that good. I bet he would be in the rotation for any of the top 10 rated teams in the country.

 

[Creeker]

Having seen McClung play in high school I think the main reason we didn’t take a serious look is because of his size and competition. Someone mentioned Fulkerson, Fulk went to play for Christ School, McClung graduated from Gate City. So, there was legitimate questions about the talent he was typically facing. I think at the time it made sense to not really pursue him. With that said I’ve followed his college career and he has been solid and is playing very well of late. I would absolutely take him right now, but I don’t blame the coaching staff for not pursuing him at the time. To say he wouldn’t fit in or anything else is nonsense. They simply didn’t go after him for legitimate questions about his game, but he has been doing well for Georgetown and I’m happy for him.

 

[JoAllan]

If Mac were to avg 20 pts and be productive offensively and only average defensively , I guarantee you Barnes would like him in UT’s roster.

I agree he would “be on the roster” but he would not start nor would he get a ton of minutes (that would take time, time for Mac to learn, and to grow on defense).

Barnes isn’t putting guys on the floor who don’t play D, especially this year.....it’s that simple.

Pember looks pretty good (not comparing to Mac), he has played 54 minutes, he has 12 points, 16 rebounds, 2 blocks, 3 assists vs zero turnovers, he is shooting inside the arc at 66%, he draws fouls a ton (vs minutes played) and hits those at 67%, he is also 6ft 10”.....tallest eligible player for Tennessee.......however he doesn’t play a ton of minutes........because of his defense. He has been gaining more lately......as his D improves.

Pember’s rebounding rate is better than anyone on the team.......and he is tall, yet the most he has seen the floor was 15 minutes vs Florida A&M........why, because his D isn’t up to the level yet.

 

[JoAllan]

He would fit in anywhere because he is that good. I bet he would be in the rotation for any of the top 10 rated teams in the country.

Ok your gone off the rails now.

Lol I was politely debating you but man, this isn’t debatable anymore.......if he is your kid, I’m sry......and I did say he was good for GT.

Mac is a 13-16 point, 2 assist and 2 turnover guy for Georgetown. Mac has had good games shooting well, and bad games going 1 for 10.......this season. Mac has had success lately vs sub par teams. Mac has had good games vs decent to good teams, Mac has had very bad games vs the really good teams they have played.

Mac is NOT good enough to simply “fit in anywhere.” Most players aren’t......that is why not all of the “good” transfers work out. That is EXACTLY why “some” really good (even 5 star) freshman take time to become good......you can’t always simply “plug and play.”

 

[iVolSoHard]

Great. Then we should just discount what Turner has done in his career for a YouTube baller who's had a nice week. Sure, I'm on board.

A Youtube baller? Dude broke Allen Iverson's single season scoring record and won a state championship his senior year. As another poster mentioned, you have to look at his stats since Akinjo got kicked off the team. Akinjo was way too ball dominant as a point guard and McClung is now finally getting to show what he can do leading a team. He's an alpha on the court who can actually score the ball. We could definitely use that right now on our team.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

We need depth and we need help scoring the ball, so yes I would take him in a heart beat

Cuonzo? Is that you?

 

[jarnol32]

With it apparent that Barnes missed on a Point Guard in the last 2 recruiting classes, it would have been nice to have Mac McClung. If you look at his offer list, a lot of big
time programs missed on this 3 star recruit. However, if you watch his high school tape, it is incredible. Evaluating talent is certainly huge and to completely wiff on someone
basically from Kingsport I do not understand. I would assume Fulkerson would have played with Mac at some point.

Would welcome others thoughts on this.

Mcclung does not play defense. He wouldn’t get on the floor for Barnes.

 

[ABINGDON VOL FAN]

Ok your gone off the rails now.

Lol I was politely debating you but man, this isn’t debatable anymore.......if he is your kid, I’m sry......and I did say he was good for GT.

Mac is a 13-16 point, 2 assist and 2 turnover guy for Georgetown. Mac has had good games shooting well, and bad games going 1 for 10.......this season. Mac has had success lately vs sub par teams. Mac has had good games vs decent to good teams, Mac has had very bad games vs the really good teams they have played.

Mac is NOT good enough to simply “fit in anywhere.” Most players aren’t......that is why not all of the “good” transfers work out. That is EXACTLY why “some” really good (even 5 star) freshman take time to become good......you can’t always simply “plug and play.”

Georgetown’s under Akinjo was a stagnant offense. He dribbled around they key and would never pass Mac or anyone else the ball. Here are Mac’s stats for the three games since Akinjo left for you to ponder on.

Minutes 32.7 avg
FG. 25-49
FT 16-17
3Pt 12-25
Rb avg 3.3
Assists Avg 3.7
Steals Avg 1.0
PF avg 1.3
Pts 26.0 avg
TO 2.0 avg
Now if this is the baseline to expect now are you still going to tell me he would not start at Tn. ?
Georgetown first 7 games pts avg 77.5
4-3 record.
Last 3 games - 87.0 with Mac featured.
3-0 record.
Mac was avg about 13 ppg in the first 7 games.
Georgetown has lost 4 players in their rotation including Akinjo.

One more thing - Two of the teams Georgetown beat in the last 3 games were undefeated and then they controlled and beat Syracuse by est. 12. Is that the subpar teams you’re are referring to ? Nice way to distort the facts to support your opinion.

 

[cncchris33]

While he may have been just a 3 star recruit, he was one of the most popular and well known recruits in the nation. Between being a small white guy who can dunk like that and his cousin being a famous rapper, he had many viral moments before even getting to Georgetown. He has a lengthy Wikipedia page which is evidence of how well known he’s been.

That being said, as a program we’ve kind of shoehorned ourselves into a certain kind of recruit: a kid that is extremely religious. To a man, every single player on the team is devoutly religious. Outside of basketball, it’s the one joining force on the team. Since Barnes has taken over religion and faith has played a big role in the team. For example Kyle Alexander and Bowden being baptized mid season, and every players social media displaying how important their faith is. It’s not a bad thing, as it’s made for a very mature and high character team, but limits us in the guys we can target to guys who are religious (and it shows in the guys we recruit).

I think McClung likely falls under the category of not “fitting in” with the program

Ehh...So was Kwe Parker.

 

[JoAllan]

Georgetown’s under Akinjo was a stagnant offense. He dribbled around they key and would never pass Mac or anyone else the ball. Here are Mac’s stats for the three games since Akinjo left for you to ponder on.

Minutes 32.7 avg
FG. 25-49
FT 16-17
3Pt 12-25
Rb avg 3.3
Assists Avg 3.7
Steals Avg 1.0
PF avg 1.3
Pts 26.0 avg
TO 2.0 avg
Now if this is the baseline to expect now are you still going to tell me he would not start at Tn. ?
Georgetown first 7 games pts avg 77.5
4-3 record.
Last 3 games - 87.0 with Mac featured.
3-0 record.
Mac was avg about 13 ppg in the first 7 games.
Georgetown has lost 4 players in their rotation including Akinjo.

One more thing - Two of the teams Georgetown beat in the last 3 games were undefeated and then they controlled and beat Syracuse by est. 12. Is that the subpar teams you’re are referring to ? Nice way to distort the facts to support your opinion.

Seriously? You want to make this argument?

The cuse are 5-5
OK ST may be decent.....we don’t know, the best team they have beaten is a 6-3 Huston team.
Then you got SMU.......come on, look at their schedule.

Also if your making your argument based on 3 games........then I can’t even help you. No way anyone can say (from 3 games).......this guy can fit in anywhere.......this guy could be in the line up for all the top 10 teams........I mean seriously.......come on.

Even with “just the 3 games” his D still isn’t good enough. He still doesn’t know “this” offense.

Let me know in a few weeks when they play Nova and Mac scores 35 points and holds his man to 30% or so.

 

[JoAllan]

Ehh...So was Kwe Parker.

“One of the most popular recruits in the nation” yet somehow the best offer he got was from Seton Hall.........not bad, but I would hardly call it “one of the most popular.”

 

[ABINGDON VOL FAN]

Seriously? You want to make this argument?

The cuse are 5-5
OK ST may be decent.....we don’t know, the best team they have beaten is a 6-3 Huston team.
Then you got SMU.......come on, look at their schedule.

Also if your making your argument based on 3 games........then I can’t even help you. No way anyone can say (from 3 games).......this guy can fit in anywhere.......this guy could be in the line up for all the top 10 teams........I mean seriously.......come on.

Even with “just the 3 games” his D still isn’t good enough. He still doesn’t know “this” offense.

Let me know in a few weeks when they play Nova and Mac scores 35 points and holds his man to 30% or so.

So you admit the 3 teams Georgetown played recently are not subpar? I did not state they were too 20 teams. Thank you , my point of you trying to distort facts is justified.

You have to make the argument on 3 games because that is when the baseline changes. We will see how it turns out. I think we are going to see more of the same for Georgetown and Mac if the lack of depth doesn't catch up to them later in the season.

So your statement is Mac would have to score 35 against Nova and hold the opposing guard to 30 % shooting for you to think he would excel at UT? That is a laughable take. You are losing credibility with each post you make. If I was you, I would limit my opinions to sports like badminton or maybe the game of checkers.