Mack Brown out at Texas

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JohnnyBall said:
I hope for Texas sake they asked for Tennessee's file on what happens when you get rid of a Hall of Fame coach. I'll bet they got one 6 inches thick complete with pictures
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Yep.

The similarities between Fulmer's and Brown's tenures and how they are ending are kind of crazy.
 
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This is simple folks, Saban has not discussed the Texas job with anyone but his wife Terry Saban has. She makes the decision for Nickie. Hence, why saban says he has not been contacted blah blah blah, but i would almost guarantee his wife has.
 
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Something I came across

http://www.coachingsearch.com/articl...d-to-go-public

During his weekly Saturday morning radio show on NBC Sports Radio, Clay Travis interviewed Orangebloods.com reporter Chip Brown, who was particularly candid was the entire situation at Texas.

Overnight, Brown received what he tabbed as vicious and personal attacks because of misinformation that he reported earlier in the week that Brown would be stepping down head coach.

It appears now, however, that Brown may indeed remain as the head coach of the Longhorns for at least another year.

During Texas’ year-end football banquet last night, news broke that Nick Saban, who many believe was Texas’ target to replace Brown, had signed a contract extension to stay at Alabama.

Brown made no mention of his future at the Texas’ year-end banquet on Friday night, however, Bobby Burton of 247Sports afterwards tweeted, “BREAKING: Source tells me that Mack Brown, following mtg w school prez and AD, will remain coach of the Longhorns.”

Chip Brown told Clay Travis this morning, “This is an unbelievable drama and it has really played out over two years. You had a group of regents and powerful big-money donors who had a conversation with Nick Saban’s agent last January. A former regent went to Mack Brown two days later and said, “Mack, do you still want to coach?” Mack said, “Yes.” Things proceeded, but the thought of Saban as coach never left that group. Mack Brown worked all year under the knowledge that if he didn’t meet certain criteria – 10 wins, BCS bowl-eligibility, BCS birth, at least a share of the Big 12 title – that he would be stepping down because the four-year failed rebuilding project would be too much.

“He knew that group was still focused in on Nick Saban. He was dead-man walking at 1-2. If Iowa State hangs on to an interception or gets a ruling on a fumble later, or Texas fails on the 4th & 7 against West Virginia, we’re not even talking about this because Mack Brown would have stepped down at the end, probably the day after the Baylor game. But because he was still in contention for a Big 12 title, he told the group he was not ready to meet.”

Brown said, “Mack Brown is apparently blaming press leaks for his unhappiness, but he threatened to go public with the details about the regents and the boosters’ attempt to get Saban for two years. That word got to Saban’s camp almost immediately and within an hour he had re-upped with Alabama. And Mack Brown’s future is still totally in limbo. There are billionaires at Texas that want to know why Mack Brown is still the football coach and there is not an offer being made to Nick Saban. That’s where we are. It is amazing. It is amazing.”

What happens now?

Brown said, “You get the sense from the way Bill Powers has handled this, it’s that if Mack goes then I go, and they just gave him a vote of continuance. There could be a stalemate.”

He added that (athletic director) Steve Patterson ‘has got to be wondering where his voice is in all of this’ and that ‘(the banquet) was one of the most uncomfortable football banquets that I’ve ever seen, last night.’

On if Texas is a great job, but not being run like a great job right now:

Brown said, “They’ve fought over the director of the director of higher-education in the state of Texas, but they’ve also fought over the football coach. Right now, Bill Powers and Mack Brown have taken control of the situation in a way that no one thought was possible, at least in the minds of some of the more powerful people connected to the University of Texas. So you’re guess is as good as mine as to who they could bring in (as head coach). I mean, it has all the tangibles, all the stuff on paper that you would want, but the leadership at Texas right now is all over the place.”

Is it entirely Bill Powers’ decision?

Brown said, “I was told all along that Bill Powers would be the one to handle Mack Brown. I immediately thought okay because Bill Powers and Mack Brown have been so closely aligned. Mack had one amazing things raising money. He’s helped raise $285 million for this $3 billion capital campaign. Mack Brown has made everyone’s job very easy from a financial standpoint. He pays the bills.

“I was told once Bill Powers handled Mack that Steve Patterson would handle the hiring of Nick Saban. I have not talked to Steve Patterson today, but you have to wonder if he’s wondering why he’s there or what’s happening. Right now, I think they’re all looking at each other, at least that’s the way it was described to me. The big money players in the drive for Saban are thinking they got played from the beginning.

“The thing all along was that they never wanted Mack Brown to look like he was getting fired. They wanted it to look like it was his own idea. But when he told Tim Brando in November, when he outed Nick Saban by saying that ‘Nick is my friend; he’s not coming after my job,’ Mack knew there was a drive by the highest levels of the university to get Nick Saban. He did that because he was starting to win. Of course, his next home game was his worst home loss, 38-13 to Oklahoma State. That’s the way it’s been, ever since. Honestly, I don’t know where they’re going to go from here."

On if the media coverage changed the outcome…

Brown said, “I don’t think so. That’s what I’m being told by this group. That’s being used as the excuse, but Mack Brown and Bill Powers never wanted Nick Saban. Mack, quite honestly, has behind-the-scenes told Powers not flattering things about Nick Saban, but yet he’s continued to hire one assistant after another from Nick Saban.”

Interestingly, Brown noted, “Texas never scheduled the top-tier SEC teams because under DeLoss Dodds they felt like there may have been an unfair playing field.”

He added, “For Mack Brown to blame press leaks is convenient and really speaks to the control the message mentality that Mack Brown has at Texas. Brian Jones of CBS has talked quite in-depth of what it was like being the sideline reporter as a former Texas player working for Mack Brown. If you said anything critical, you were called into his office.

“Mack hates me. I’m sure this was in part was about trying to destroy me and Orangebloods.com because we have never bought into his ‘control the message’ mentality. They have gone to great lengths to suffocate us. This is probably another example.

On what’s next…

“Maybe they can get the house in order by the time the national championship game is played because there could be interest in both of those coaches.”

Brown concluded, “I would be (stunned if he’s coaching next year), but I would be right there covering it all.”
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Doyle Hargraves said:
Posted on Shaggy.
SIAP

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Something I came across

http://www.coachingsearch.com/articl...d-to-go-public

During his weekly Saturday morning radio show on NBC Sports Radio, Clay Travis interviewed Orangebloods.com reporter Chip Brown, who was particularly candid was the entire situation at Texas.

Overnight, Brown received what he tabbed as vicious and personal attacks because of misinformation that he reported earlier in the week that Brown would be stepping down head coach.

It appears now, however, that Brown may indeed remain as the head coach of the Longhorns for at least another year.

During Texas’ year-end football banquet last night, news broke that Nick Saban, who many believe was Texas’ target to replace Brown, had signed a contract extension to stay at Alabama.

Brown made no mention of his future at the Texas’ year-end banquet on Friday night, however, Bobby Burton of 247Sports afterwards tweeted, “BREAKING: Source tells me that Mack Brown, following mtg w school prez and AD, will remain coach of the Longhorns.”

Chip Brown told Clay Travis this morning, “This is an unbelievable drama and it has really played out over two years. You had a group of regents and powerful big-money donors who had a conversation with Nick Saban’s agent last January. A former regent went to Mack Brown two days later and said, “Mack, do you still want to coach?” Mack said, “Yes.” Things proceeded, but the thought of Saban as coach never left that group. Mack Brown worked all year under the knowledge that if he didn’t meet certain criteria – 10 wins, BCS bowl-eligibility, BCS birth, at least a share of the Big 12 title – that he would be stepping down because the four-year failed rebuilding project would be too much.

“He knew that group was still focused in on Nick Saban. He was dead-man walking at 1-2. If Iowa State hangs on to an interception or gets a ruling on a fumble later, or Texas fails on the 4th & 7 against West Virginia, we’re not even talking about this because Mack Brown would have stepped down at the end, probably the day after the Baylor game. But because he was still in contention for a Big 12 title, he told the group he was not ready to meet.”

Brown said, “Mack Brown is apparently blaming press leaks for his unhappiness, but he threatened to go public with the details about the regents and the boosters’ attempt to get Saban for two years. That word got to Saban’s camp almost immediately and within an hour he had re-upped with Alabama. And Mack Brown’s future is still totally in limbo. There are billionaires at Texas that want to know why Mack Brown is still the football coach and there is not an offer being made to Nick Saban. That’s where we are. It is amazing. It is amazing.”

What happens now?

Brown said, “You get the sense from the way Bill Powers has handled this, it’s that if Mack goes then I go, and they just gave him a vote of continuance. There could be a stalemate.”

He added that (athletic director) Steve Patterson ‘has got to be wondering where his voice is in all of this’ and that ‘(the banquet) was one of the most uncomfortable football banquets that I’ve ever seen, last night.’

On if Texas is a great job, but not being run like a great job right now:

Brown said, “They’ve fought over the director of the director of higher-education in the state of Texas, but they’ve also fought over the football coach. Right now, Bill Powers and Mack Brown have taken control of the situation in a way that no one thought was possible, at least in the minds of some of the more powerful people connected to the University of Texas. So you’re guess is as good as mine as to who they could bring in (as head coach). I mean, it has all the tangibles, all the stuff on paper that you would want, but the leadership at Texas right now is all over the place.”

Is it entirely Bill Powers’ decision?

Brown said, “I was told all along that Bill Powers would be the one to handle Mack Brown. I immediately thought okay because Bill Powers and Mack Brown have been so closely aligned. Mack had one amazing things raising money. He’s helped raise $285 million for this $3 billion capital campaign. Mack Brown has made everyone’s job very easy from a financial standpoint. He pays the bills.

“I was told once Bill Powers handled Mack that Steve Patterson would handle the hiring of Nick Saban. I have not talked to Steve Patterson today, but you have to wonder if he’s wondering why he’s there or what’s happening. Right now, I think they’re all looking at each other, at least that’s the way it was described to me. The big money players in the drive for Saban are thinking they got played from the beginning.

“The thing all along was that they never wanted Mack Brown to look like he was getting fired. They wanted it to look like it was his own idea. But when he told Tim Brando in November, when he outed Nick Saban by saying that ‘Nick is my friend; he’s not coming after my job,’ Mack knew there was a drive by the highest levels of the university to get Nick Saban. He did that because he was starting to win. Of course, his next home game was his worst home loss, 38-13 to Oklahoma State. That’s the way it’s been, ever since. Honestly, I don’t know where they’re going to go from here."

On if the media coverage changed the outcome…

Brown said, “I don’t think so. That’s what I’m being told by this group. That’s being used as the excuse, but Mack Brown and Bill Powers never wanted Nick Saban. Mack, quite honestly, has behind-the-scenes told Powers not flattering things about Nick Saban, but yet he’s continued to hire one assistant after another from Nick Saban.”

Interestingly, Brown noted, “Texas never scheduled the top-tier SEC teams because under DeLoss Dodds they felt like there may have been an unfair playing field.”

He added, “For Mack Brown to blame press leaks is convenient and really speaks to the control the message mentality that Mack Brown has at Texas. Brian Jones of CBS has talked quite in-depth of what it was like being the sideline reporter as a former Texas player working for Mack Brown. If you said anything critical, you were called into his office.

“Mack hates me. I’m sure this was in part was about trying to destroy me and Orangebloods.com because we have never bought into his ‘control the message’ mentality. They have gone to great lengths to suffocate us. This is probably another example.

On what’s next…

“Maybe they can get the house in order by the time the national championship game is played because there could be interest in both of those coaches.”

Brown concluded, “I would be (stunned if he’s coaching next year), but I would be right there covering it all.”
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Sounds butthurt. Why anybody would believe anything Chip Brown says at this point is beyond me.
 
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Panthro said:
I hope they hire Franklin. I miss the days of Vandy being a sure-thing. A long as he's there, it will at least be a close game.
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He's not able to replace the redshirts that Bobby and Robbie left him. Matthews and Carta Samuels are gone and Boyd is not coming back. Vandy is headed back to the cellar next year and the shine is coming off Franklin. I can't wait to see him try his loudmouth schtick after a couple of 3-9 seasons. Maybe Woody can help him get a job at a toll booth in a few years?
 
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With Saban off the table, if I were Texas my short list would look like this..

David Shaw (Stanford)
Mark Dantonio (Michigan State)
Charlie Strong (Louisville)
Rod Carey (Northern Illinois)
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
With Saban off the table, if I were Texas my short list would look like this..

David Shaw (Stanford)
Mark Dantonio (Michigan State)
Charlie Strong (Louisville)
Rod Carey (Northern Illinois)
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If they hired Carey. Austin would implode. They think they had/have Saban. And then you hire Carey. The meltdown would be beyond epic
 
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I guess the trouble with Dantonio is age, and he's had health trouble before. He would be my top realistic target.
 
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Vol8188 said:
I think Texas can sign a bigger one.
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Ha!! Nice response. I think Briles got a 4.5mil deal (iirc from what I originally heard), so TX can def cover that without batting an eye. Number may be off though cause never thought Baylor would drop that kind of dough for a coach, and they are a private school.

Like I said multiple times early in this thread imho Briles is the guy for the job if and only if he is willing to deal with all that comes with the job off the field. He was the #1 guy on my list to replace dooley, and he's only proven more that he is good coach since. Sumlin rode his coat tails that's for sure.

He'd be my #1 target cause it would take a lot for a TX "outsider" to come in and learn how to handle it all. Saban could handle it cause its kind of like bama. But a coach that doesn't or hasn't had to deal with all of the politics and expectations will have a huge learning curve.

I think Harbough could handle it but may rub people wrong with a lack of tack. Shaw seems to mild-mannered and quiet. He could get eaten alive. This coaching search imo has a very small pool to chose from. Saban could still have his legs in it imo.
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