Mack Brown Says He'd Talk(SC)

[BigOrangeTrain]

Not worried about him at all. His high school/arena league jump ball style of football would drive me crazy and won't work long in SEC.

Agree 100%. I wish Vol fans would quit fearing every tije an SEC school makes a hire. Spurrier>>>>Fuente and Butch has owned him. Bring on Fuente.

 

[Otis07]

I hope Mack would take the job, (if offered) maybe he could bring Watson Brown with him

 

[NashVol11]

Hmmm... I've watched Baylor play several times and never felt their offense was gimmicky? I like the spread and read option offenses. Done properly it really gets the ball to skill players in space and the read option takes away numerical advantages the defense typically has with traditional offenses. I know a lot of people feel it takes away from smash mouth power ball and I see that to a point because they tend to attack the edges more and zone blocking schemes don't fire out as hard. I see this type of offense only gaining more traction goin forward.

What is it that you find gimmicky about Baylor?

It's basically the Air Raid, in fast forward, with a bunch of WR screens (IMO the worst play in football). They're not physical at all, and the QB doesn't have to make any reads (which is why RG3 is so unbelievably bad at it). That offense in the NFL would go 1-15 at best, so against essentially an NFL DC in Saban--with athletes significantly better than Baylor's--Baylor is in serious trouble.

 

[NashVol11]

Hell, Petty couldn't identify basic coverages or fronts entering the NFL. Coaches asked him to identify the MLB, which is the most basic of presnap reads, and he had no idea what they were talking about. The offense is basically snap, three-step drop, throw to first and only read. If a defense can take away the short stuff with press coverage and LB speed, they don't have an effective plan B.

 

[Dragon18]

It's basically the Air Raid, in fast forward, with a bunch of WR screens (IMO the worst play in football). They're not physical at all, and the QB doesn't have to make any reads (which is why RG3 is so unbelievably bad at it). That offense in the NFL would go 1-15 at best, so against essentially an NFL DC in Saban--with athletes significantly better than Baylor's--Baylor is in serious trouble.

Well... Just to create discussion I would begin by saying that they are playing in the NCAA and not in the NFL as my first point. I can also point to several traditionally strong defensive teams that this offense has rung up 40+ points but I will only post this one. Michigan State is a school that is built around it's physical defense. D'Antonio is regarded as one of the great defensive minds in the country and he had over a month to prepare for Baylor's offense and they still rung up 41 points on MSU. It's a different offense from pro sets and traditional offenses, but it is very effective.

Edit: I get your point though. I'm 50 this year and come from an era that was much more ground and pound, but I've got to admit I really like how the spread offenses create space for skill players and create numerical mismatches for defenses.

 

[NashVol11]

Well... Just to create discussion I would begin by saying that they are playing in the NCAA and not in the NFL as my first point.

And that offense has won exactly how many NCAA championships?

I can also point to several traditionally strong defensive teams that this offense has rung up 40+ points but I will only post this one. Michigan State is a school that is built around it's physical defense. D'Antonio is regarded as one of the great defensive minds in the country and he had over a month to prepare for Baylor's offense and they still rung up 41 points on MSU. It's a different offense from pro sets and traditional offenses, but it is very effective.

And I could point to the fact that Alabama has dramatically more speed on defense than Michigan State does, but that's not really necessary because Michigan State--a team whose defense is inferior to Alabama in both athleticism and coaching--STILL beat Baylor.

 

[Dragon18]

And that offense has won exactly how many NCAA championships?



And I could point to the fact that Alabama has dramatically more speed on defense than Michigan State does, but that's not really necessary because Michigan State--a team whose defense is inferior to Alabama in both athleticism and coaching--STILL beat Baylor.

When did Alabama play Baylor? I went back three years and they never played? As for NCAA championships there is no arguing that they haven't won one... Yet.

But let me be clear, I am no Baylor fan. I'm a UT fan first and grew up watching Clemson play a lot. I appreciate the precision with which Baylor slices up defenses though and it's really hard to argue the effectiveness of their approach.

Edit: Oops read your post wrong. Yes MSU won the game 42-41. We are talking about offensive production though.