Making room for 35

[AndyMizunogolfer]

Everyone keeps asking how they are going to make the room on an 85 man roster. That is pretty simple. Scholarships are yearly contracts. Doubtful you see him skip any guys that will be seniors schollies. Although I would expect to see the Juniors get hit. This same thing happened with my wife when she played softball for UGA. A new coach came in and did not renew the scholarships for 9 players.

 

[Boca Vol]

That seems like a very crappy thing to do and a bad PR move if the player is in good academic standing and hasn't been in trouble. That would send a very bad message, IMO.

Sorry your wife had to deal that. That stinks.

 

[Grey_pilgrim]

Butch did say that over the winter break they would find out who was really committed and ready to give their all for TN. Maybe your on to something, a culling of the weak so to speak.

Edit: I did not in any way mean to make it sound like your wife was weak.

 

[volum3]

As a Vol alumni, I hold my Alma Mater to a higher standard than allowing something classless like that to happen, you honor your commitments. Maybe some kids are told they arent tops on the depth chart, but you dont back out of your obligations. Im sorry your wife had that experience, thats awful, dishonest and lacks honor and those are all the reasons why that wont fly at UT.

 

[Biopsyman]

Competition helps players decide whether to stay or leave

 

[Fatman Photos]

That happens at every school

 

[KingtUT]

That seems like a very crappy thing to do and a bad PR move if the player is in good academic standing and hasn't been in trouble. That would send a very bad message, IMO.

Sorry your wife had to deal that. That stinks.

What's crappy is being judged as a coach while trying to compete with players that you get stuck with. I expect BJ to do everything in his power to turn this program around and start winning. He doesn't have time to worry about hurting a few feelings along the way. Let me be clear, WIN, WIN, WIN, and do it FAST and within the rules.

 

[Boca Vol]

What's crappy is being judged as a coach while trying to compete with players that you get stuck with. I expect BJ to do everything in his power to turn this program around and start winning. He doesn't have time to worry about hurting a few feelings along the way. Let me be clear, WIN, WIN, WIN, and do it FAST and within the rules.

Wow.

 

[jasonvol18]

That happens at every school

Exactly..Saban is King of it. Usually happens the first yr or 2 of a new Head Coach. Weeding out the guys who aren't buying in.

 

[tri_vol]

As a Vol alumni, I hold my Alma Mater to a higher standard than allowing something classless like that to happen, you honor your commitments. Maybe some kids are told they arent tops on the depth chart, but you dont back out of your obligations. Im sorry your wife had that experience, thats awful, dishonest and lacks honor and those are all the reasons why that wont fly at UT.

You're fooling yourself. College football is big business now. If Butch wants to keep his job, he will send the dead weight packing. You can talk about class and obligations but you will be demanding his head of he doesn't win and he's not going to win without making cuts.

 

[KingtUT]

As a Vol alumni, I hold my Alma Mater to a higher standard than allowing something classless like that to happen, you honor your commitments. Maybe some kids are told they arent tops on the depth chart, but you dont back out of your obligations. Im sorry your wife had that experience, thats awful, dishonest and lacks honor and those are all the reasons why that wont fly at UT.

The obligations are for one year at a time. Each player has to "earn their keep". BJ would be an idiot to just keep accepting the mediocrity that our depth chart has been filled with for years. WIN, WIN, WIN, do it now and do it legally.

 

[jspvol76]

I'm surprised by some of the responses. I'm sure it has happened at UT in the past, and I'm sure it will happen in the future. I don't necessarily agree with it, but it happens.

 

[Fullfillmer]

As a Vol alumni, I hold my Alma Mater to a higher standard than allowing something classless like that to happen, you honor your commitments. Maybe some kids are told they arent tops on the depth chart, but you dont back out of your obligations. Im sorry your wife had that experience, thats awful, dishonest and lacks honor and those are all the reasons why that wont fly at UT.

Unfortunately - as competitive as the SEC is - CBJ and his staff's livelihood depends upon his putting a successful product on the field. These are one year contracts or commitments if I am not mistaken. Nothing that I have seen has led me to think that these coaches won't handle this in a professional and fair manner - and for all we know no one will lose their scholarships. The product on the field has to be upgraded. Job 1 is recruiting better players - job 2 making all the pieces fit.

 

[tri_vol]

I'm surprised by some of the responses. I'm sure it has happened at UT in the past, and im it will happen in the future.

People live in a utopia fantasy land where UT will rule college football while adhering to the standards of 1950 simply because of the Power T and Neyland stadium.

 

[gnm53108]

The obligations are for one year at a time. Each player has to "earn their keep". BJ would be an idiot to just keep accepting the mediocrity that our depth chart has been filled with for years. WIN, WIN, WIN, do it now and do it legally.

Come on now KingtUT...we're not that impatient.

He doesn't have to start winning now. He can wait till September.

 

[KingtUT]

Wow.

If you don't agree you must at least feel like a coach should get 5-6 years to turn a program around, if thats your opinion I can respect it. The majority however disagrees so he doesn't get that long.

 

[Chilmonty]

What's crappy is being judged as a coach while trying to compete with players that you get stuck with. I expect BJ to do everything in his power to turn this program around and start winning. He doesn't have time to worry about hurting a few feelings along the way. Let me be clear, WIN, WIN, WIN, and do it FAST and within the rules.

A little harsh, but it is the reality of college football.

Same as "Fred your sales just aren't improving, so I am going to have to let you go."

Life is not an easy game!



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[Boca Vol]

Yes, attrition happens everywhere but it isn't as simple as, "You're not the player we thought you were. Now pack your bags."

 

[KingtUT]

Come on now KingtUT...we're not that impatient.

He doesn't have to start winning now. He can wait till September.

While I know what you mean and I laughed, we have to win everyday by out working the competition and it started the day the season ended.

 

[james_govols]

Why should Jones feel remorse over this? Most people on this message board are as bipolar as they come when dealing with defeat.

These coaches are given 3 years and then they are out the door if they aren't winning.

If I was Jones I would do what is necessary to win as well. You can't blame him for that. It's dirty, but the situation warrants it.

 

[gnm53108]

While I know what you mean and I laughed, we have to win everyday by out working the competition and it started day the season ended.

I agree.

I cant imagine anybody has out worked this staff on the recruiting trail.

 

[KingtUT]

Yes, attrition happens everywhere but it isn't as simple as, "You're not the player we thought you were. Now pack your bags."

The "we" your referring to is Dooley's staff, BJ didn't sign them so he wasn't able to voice his opinion of them as a player. There's an old saying " only the strong survive" , it works in this case.

 

[Boca Vol]

If you don't agree you must at least feel like a coach should get 5-6 years to turn a program around, if thats your opinion I can respect it. The majority however disagrees and he doesn't get that long.

It's not as simple or cut & dry as you're making it out to be.

Sometimes attrition comes from medical reasons, grad school, etc. It's not necessarily a "negative" thing such as "you aren't cutting it on the field."

Maybe there were some walkons that earned schollies for this past year and they aren't being renewed. That's a little different than a kid signing out of HS, doing what he's supposed to do off the field, and being told to hit the streets.

 

[voldawgforever]

"We have a very good connection down in Chattanooga..."

 

[tds8840]

I would much rather know that I didn't fit the system and that I would never get much playing time. This would give me the opportunity to transfer and actually play somewhere else. Some of these kids might be OK with standing on the sidelines, but I think most of them want to play. I believe it is the honorable thing to do to let each player know.

I think this whole process gets a bad reputation, but you have to trust that a head coach knows his players and knows which ones will want to transfer to another school to have the opportunity to play. If he doesn't, then he is probably not a very good coach. You see similar things in the business world every day. Someone thinks they are in line for the next promotion, but they're not. Instead of their manager telling them the truth, they keep telling them to hang in there, you'll get the next one. And, before you know it, they've been in the same job for 20 years and with they had done something else.

So, before you criticize the coach, check your "fan" emotions and ask yourself would you rather ride the pine at Tennessee or play at a smaller school.